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I'm not doubting what you say, but could you post some examples to better show what you're describing?
I would but I'm not really sure how because it's mostly subjective stuff for my personal taste in how I like to edit vs an actual flaw or downside to how Pixelmator is compared to Lightroom, sort of how people like one brand of camera over another kind.

Otherwise, Pixelmator is a genuinely fantastic tool that is more than enough for the majority of people.
 
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I'd recommend "Affinity Photo" instead if you need anything similar to Photoshop.
Yes, Affinity Photo, no subscription, now they are having a 50% off sale.
Much better, opens much faster than Photoshop, a new way of thinking with tabs to do certain tasks.
 
I'd recommend "Affinity Photo" instead if you need anything similar to Photoshop.

The one-click background removal in Pixelmator looks quite neat. But is it as clever as it sounds? This video shows how to remove backgrounds in Affinity Photo. Not difficult, but quite a lot of manual effort still required to do a good job. You would think that a really clever AI could do all the manual steps in that video automatically. Things like models, clothing, hair etc. are ubiquitous in photos, and very clever software could know about that.
 
Bit confused here so any help hugely appreciated of course. Getting back into digital photography as a hobbyist (Panasonic G9, 200 F2.8 for wildlife mainly, 12-60 for travel, bit of street, general). I'm lucky enough as an educator to get the big discount on Final Cut should I ever get there with video, but for my current output I'm looking for a solid photo editor (shoot RAW). Aperture was the sweet spot back in the day for me so I need to kick off my monthly direct debit to Adobe CC which I enormously under-utilise. Quite happy to buy some apps for keeps. Should I go Pixelmator Pro and Affinity? Tend to use my iPad Pro 12.9 and MBP Max 16 for photo work.

Any help/pearls of wisdom/mild chastisement and mocking welcome! ???
 
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Bit confused here so any help hugely appreciated of course. Getting back into digital photography as a hobbyist (Panasonic G9, 200 F2.8 for wildlife mainly, 12-60 for travel, bit of street, general). I'm lucky enough as an educator to get the big discount on Final Cut should I ever get there with video, but for my current output I'm looking for a solid photo editor (shoot RAW). Aperture was the sweet spot back in the day for me so I need to kick off my monthly direct debit to Adobe CC which I enormously under-utilise. Quite happy to buy some apps for keeps. Should I go Pixelmator Pro and Affinity? Tend to use my iPad Pro 12.9 and MBP Max 16 for photo work.

Any help/pearls of wisdom/mild chastisement and mocking welcome! ???
You will want to look into Capture One as it's the Professionals go to application for serious photography. They make different versions but I don't think for the iPad... but again this may be to serious of a program for you, as a hobbyist, no disrespect but it's expensive as a one-time purchase but the level of control is amazing and it's support for advanced features is vastly superior to your mentioned programs. Again, no disrespect to Pixelmator or Affinity but these aren't up to Capture One level for photography.
 
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What I love about Pixelmator is how strictly they adhere to Apple’s UI guidelines and native macOS features. It truly feels like an app that Apple designed itself.

I use Adobe at work and have used Photoshop for 25 years so it’s difficult to give up the comfort and muscle memory, but if I ever stopped having access to Adobe from my employer, I wouldn’t go back to subscribing to it myself and would make the effort to switch to Pixelmator.
 
I would but I'm not really sure how because it's mostly subjective stuff for my personal taste in how I like to edit vs an actual flaw or downside to how Pixelmator is compared to Lightroom, sort of how people like one brand of camera over another kind.

Otherwise, Pixelmator is a genuinely fantastic tool that is more than enough for the majority of people.

Fair enough. I guess if you were feeling froggy, you could go chop down a tree with a herring take a picture of a shrubbery and do your edits in each program. I do realize that's a big ask though.
 
You will want to look into Capture One as it's the Professionals go to application for serious photography. They make different versions but I don't think for the iPad... but again this may be to serious of a program for you, as a hobbyist, no disrespect but it's expensive as a one-time purchase but the level of control is amazing and it's support for advanced features is vastly superior to your mentioned programs. Again, no disrespect to Pixelmator or Affinity but these aren't up to Capture One level for photography.
And as a pro-Pixelmator counterpoint, edits you do in the Mac version carry over to the iPad version and vice-versa.
 
Bit confused here so any help hugely appreciated of course. Getting back into digital photography as a hobbyist (Panasonic G9, 200 F2.8 for wildlife mainly, 12-60 for travel, bit of street, general). I'm lucky enough as an educator to get the big discount on Final Cut should I ever get there with video, but for my current output I'm looking for a solid photo editor (shoot RAW). Aperture was the sweet spot back in the day for me so I need to kick off my monthly direct debit to Adobe CC which I enormously under-utilise. Quite happy to buy some apps for keeps. Should I go Pixelmator Pro and Affinity? Tend to use my iPad Pro 12.9 and MBP Max 16 for photo work.

Any help/pearls of wisdom/mild chastisement and mocking welcome! ???
Aperture was also my favorite app. I've tried almost every raw converter around and found that Capture One is the closest to how Aperture worked.
Other than that I've been using Affinity Photo for many years because I just never got along with PS (same for LR). I've tried Pixelmator and it seems to work quite differently when it comes to layers and adjustments – which is a good thing because not everybody likes it the same way. Affinity wants to do as much as possible in a non-destructive way. It offers "Adjustment Layers" like contast, saturation, perspective, liquify etc. that you can stack above your base image layer. You can brush the adjustments on to certain areas of the image or apply it to the entire image. At any time you can go back to that adjustment layer and change it. In Pixelmator it seems to work differently: First you'll make a selection on your image layer and then apply an adjustment to that selection. But once done, afaik you can't change that any more. In order to do that, you'll have to first duplicate the image layer with that selection, and then apply your adjustments to that new layer. So Instead of adding adjustment layer, you add image layers which have their adjustments attached to it. (Perhaps there is also a different workflow, but that's my finding so far after trying PP.)
 
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Aperture was also my favorite app. I've tried almost every raw converter around and found that Capture One is the closest to how Aperture worked.
Other than that I've been using Affinity Photo for many years because I just never got along with PS (same for LR). I've tried Pixelmator and it seems to work quite differently when it comes to layers and adjustments – which is a good thing because not everybody likes it the same way. Affinity wants to do as much as possible in a non-destructive way. It offers "Adjustment Layers" like contast, saturation, perspective, liquify etc. that you can stack above your base image layer. You can brush the adjustments on to certain areas of the image or apply it to the entire image. At any time you can go back to that adjustment layer and change it. In Pixelmator it seems to work differently: First you'll make a selection on your image layer and then apply an adjustment to that selection. But once done, afaik you can't change that any more. In order to do that, you'll have to first duplicate the image layer with that selection, and then apply your adjustments to that new layer. So Instead of adding adjustment layer, you add image layers which have their adjustments attached to it. (Perhaps there is also a different workflow, but that's my finding so far after trying PP.)
Thank you so much - this is really appreciated and so, so helpful. Capture One and Affinity Photo looking good for me. ?
 
Love this update so far! Thanks Pixelmator for investing time and talent to creating an innovative product that destroys Photoshop.

I don't know why anyone would buy into Adobe when Pixelmator exists.

(Provided you don't need the rest of Adobe's ecosystem, of course.)

Yes, it is basically Photoshop.

It's great that a cheaper option exists if you don't need the entire feature set that Photoshop offers. But this is a crazy set of comments. There are other reasons that motivate people to do things other than being idiots or ignorant. In a forum like this, where so many different people do so many different things with their machines, I would think that would be easy to understand.

The feature set of the two applications is in no way, shape or form comparable right now, what you're saying is that Final Cut is not needed because iMovie exists pretty much.

If you moved to Pixelmator and don't miss Photoshop, then that is honestly great and you made a wonderful decision picking a tool that works just as well for what you do for a fraction of the price. But that simply means Photoshop is a more powerful tool than what you needed in the first place.

Pixelmator does vectors better than Photoshop, Luminar does the Neural Filters better than Photoshop, Affinity arguably does HSL type adjustments better than Camera RAW, but no one tool combines everything under one roof the way Photoshop does, they don't currently have a direct equivalent the way Premiere has Final Cut and DaVinci.

I'd love for it to be cheaper too and again, it's good that alternatives exist for certain situations but let's not get it twisted. There are plenty of reasons to stick to Photoshop other than being a fool and it's still the most complete image manipulation software by quite a considerable margin.
 
I'm always slightly happier with my edits in Lightroom which I why I still pay for it. I'll edit the same photo in both but there's always something about the Pixelmator version that feels a bit off, makes Lightroom worth the cost for me. Pixelmator has really limited distortion correction for example, which when you shoot a lot of wide angle stuff gets really annoying.
I know I am,late to the party…

I use DXO Photolab for distortion correction and raw developing. Then it is exported to Pixelmator. Very effective combo, DXO has the best distortion corrections around plus it it is a great RAW developer and it has the best noise reduction.

it goes on sale regularly for 30% off at least so a copy of that and Pixelmator Pro or Affinity Photo pays for itself really quickly over the regular monthly payments for the rest of your life for Photoshop and Lightroom.
 
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