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In the case of this accident, if I understand correctly they did not have time to complete the ditching checklist. How many steps are there? Must have been quite a few. If so, I bet there will be an update after this incident.

You're right, I think you're going to see some changes. The ditching checklist itself has only nine checklist items prior to splashdown (there are six items afterwards). Thing is, it has a conditional statement at the beginning that states that if the engines are *not* running, then you should instead run the dual engine failure checklist, which is what the crew did.

The dual engine failure checklist includes the ditching items at the end of it, and is huge. Including the ditching items, I count 28 steps with several conditional situations (where you branch around the checklist depending on the situation), and all in all it covers three checklist pages. It's way too long to run in a short period of time.

So I'd guess you'll see some reorganization for situations like this. And like IJ mentioned, the crew did a good job of not getting hung up in the checklist, and just 'flew the airplane'.

With the military helicopters that I flew, all emergency procedures were required to be committed to memory.

At US Airways, there aren't any memory items. They have emergency action items, which are listed at the front of the QRH, but those still aren't memorized. They're just placed at the front for easy retrieval. The dual engine failure checklist isn't included here, btw. It's buried on page 27.
 
Another positive outcome of all this is that with the data recovered from the FDR, Airbus believes that they will be able to incorporate specific training (including sim scenarios) to replicate this condition in the existing curriculum.

I'll bet when they run a dozen or so crews through it none of them manages to complete it successfully. Sorta like Sioux City…
 
Just got this tonight. Might be interesting to some:

FROM : AIRBUS FLIGHT SAFETY DEPARTMENT TOULOUSE

ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX - ACCIDENT INFORMATION TELEX

SUBJECT: US AIRWAYS Flight US1549 ACCIDENT IN NEW YORK

OUR REF: USA US1549 AIT N°2 DATED 23rd JANUARY 2009
Previous ref: USA US1549 AIT N°1 DATED 16 JANUARY 2009

SUBJECT: US AIRWAYS Flight US1549 ACCIDENT IN NEW YORK

This is an update to the AIT N°1 issued on 16th January 2009.

The information which follow has been approved for release by the US National Transport Safety Board (NTSB) and represent the highlights from the initial analysis of the available data: mainly Digital Flight Data Recorder, aircraft components, ATC script and radar.

The A320 aircraft was operating a scheduled flight US1549 from New York, La Guardia airport to Charlotte, Virginia on 15th January 2009, when the aircraft ditched on the Hudson river shortly after take-off at 15:30 local time.

The aircraft performed a normal flex take-off in slats/flaps configuration 2 from La Guardia airport with the co-pilot as Pilot Flying.

At time T0, soon after the aircraft was in clean configuration at an airspeed of about 210kts, both engines suffered a simultaneous and sudden loss of thrust at about 3000ft pressure altitude. The engines N1 decreased abruptly to 35% and 15% on engines 1 & 2 respectively. This sudden and simultaneous loss of engine thrust is consistent with the reported bird strike on both engines and also with the initial observations from the remaining engine 2. (Recovery of engine 1 being still in progress).

The captain took immediately control of the aircraft making smooth nose-down pitch inputs to maintain the airspeed at about 200kts.

At approximately T0+20 sec, the crew changed the aircraft heading towards the Hudson river.

There was no more response from the engine N°2. The engine N°1 continued to deliver a minimum thrust (N1 around 35%) for about 2 minutes and 20 seconds after T0.

At approximately T0+2min20sec, the crew attempted at about 500ft/200kts a quick relight on engine 1 without success.

The crew then selected slat/flap configuration 2 which was achieved.

From then on and until the ditching, the heading remained almost constant. The speed decreased from 200kts to 130kts.

Ditching occurred 3 minutes and 30 seconds after the thrust loss in the following conditions:
- Airspeed was about 130kts (at the Gross Weight, Valpha max is 125kts and Valpha prot is 132kts)
- Pitch attitude was 10 degrees up and bank attitude was at 0 degree.
- Flaps and slats were in configuration 2. Landing gear up

It is to be noted that at all times during the event and up until the ditching, the normal electrical supply (AC and DC buses) and all three hydraulic systems were fully operational and the flight control law remained in Normal law.

In line with ICAO Annex 13 International convention, the US NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) continues the investigation assisted by Accredited Representatives from the French BEA (Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses) as State of aircraft manufacturer. Airbus continues to support the NTSB investigation with advisors on-site and in the various investigation working groups.

Airbus has no specific recommendations at this stage. Should there be the need for recommendation as a result of the investigation, operators will be notified accordingly.

VICE PRESIDENT FLIGHT SAFETY
AIRBUS
 
Actually, the Hudson has a GPS-A approach, which did the crew no good since the east side US Airways pilots can't do non-precision approaches. ;)

In all seriousness, my understanding was that the airplane was being 'hand flown', but you need to remember that this is an Airbus, so as long as the stick is centered, the computers will keep it wings level.

As my wife says, you don't really fly an Airbus - it's just a big video game.
 
As my wife says, you don't really fly an Airbus - it's just a big video game.

Which reminds me, the first time my CFI strapped a push-to-talk button onto the yoke I asked him if that's what I use to shoot down other airplanes. Not sure he got that I was joking.
 
Yay, the lawyers have crash landed now.

Some Passengers Mull Lawsuits Over Life-Saving US Airways Crash-Landing

By Martha Neil

A US Airways pilot made aviation history last month and was hailed as a hero after he crash-landed his plane on the Hudson River and all aboard survived.

But some of the 150 passengers whose lives he saved are talking about suing the airline for damages, contending that a $5,000 check for "immediate needs" and a refund of the ticket price they paid isn't sufficient recompense for their emotional trauma, reports the London Times...
OK, I would have at least expected them to pick up the ER visit, hotel room, and a new ticket to the destination along with the refund.
 
The airline has sent the passengers a letter of apology, a $5,000 (£3,500) cheque to assist with “immediate needs”, reimbursement for their tickets and a promise to be upgraded to first class on flights until March 10.

The compensation does seem stingy, and the upgraded flights (until March 10 -- who came up with that date?), laughable. I mean, how many of these survivors are going to be anxious to get on an airplane again just a few weeks after taking a dip in the frozen Hudson? This is especially interesting in light of Sullenberger's recent testimony before Congress about the airlines taking out experienced pilots by being cheap. If it wasn't for him, US Air would be liable for millions in damages. Probably without meaning to do so, they're just proving his point.
 
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