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The JB community wouldn't put up with selling them.

So if someone developed a jail break that required you to connect to their server in order to jail break your device, and they wanted to sell that service, just exactly how would the "community" not put up with it?
 
I am definitely going to keep my iPad on 5.1 even when they jailbreak iOS 6. The reason is because home sharing does not work properly on iOS 6
 
See, I don't know if its just me or what, but technically an underground model for a Purchased Jailbreak "could" work.

We just have to use some other names for the Jailbreak community and it kind of makes sense.

Saurik could be "Apple", or....in this case more appropriately "App store"
Jailbreak tweaks could be "Apps", with both free and payed apps, and ad supported
and Jailbreak team could be just "iOS development team"

Here we have the iOS development team being paid (in part originally, but we have to modify to fully) by proceeds from the App Store, minus the costs of running the app store and its servers (repos). The devs would split their earnings by 30-70, with 30% going to the App store. This cuts into the profits of devs, so lets add another layer where the user has to pay to use the app store. This way we don't have to rely on donations to power iOS Development, there could be dedicated jailbreakers due to the income, and users get a faster/easier/stable jailbreak.

I know its not very likely, but think about it, this way we could pool our exploits by actually buying them from devs (causing sharing of resources), have a faster, more resourceful Jailbreak team, and people who want to jailbreak, just pay for it, leading to less pirates (as we know they won't pay for it, because they could have just gone and bought the original apps), and most of all it would be a regulated and stable community......


utopia anyone?
 
And who exactly is going to pay for the legal fee's???

As long as it stays on the right side of the law Apple won't do anything, if it moves to the wrong side Apple will take legal action…

Maybe time to read up on Geohot's nice run in with Sony.
 
I know.... :( thats why I said utopia.

My thought is, jailbreak right now already does lead to piracy, and its not exactly on the right side of the law. So if Apple hasn't done anything now, would they do anything when there is money exchanging hands for the jailbreak?
 
I doubt that, how can apple close loopholes of they don't know what to close?

Improved memory management?

There's been a lot of focus on ARC in the developer APIs lately which basically makes memory management easier to get right without needing to go to garbage collection.

Non-faulty memory management closes a lot of holes. It is possible that a potential hole could be closed simply by apple updating parts of iOS as they implement new features in CLANG and Objective-C.


They'll JB on 6.1. This will be huge. I can't wait to get on iOS 6 on my 4S, and get Google Maps finally (5.0.1 JB now).


You realise that there is a better version of google maps available for iOS 6 than was included in previous iOS versions?


Where are all the thread starters of the "There will never be an iOS6 jailbreak" and all those who posted agreeing with them.

Have never said "there will never be an iOS 6 jailbreak".

However, apple is focused on various technologies in the development kit that will make future Jailbreaks harder to accomplish. They're making it easier to write secure code. Jailbreaks require insecure code or insecure firmware.

You can expect to see them take longer to come out until eventually at some point it just isn't possible any more without hardware modification - or someone manages to steal the apple code-signing key.
 
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I would pay 50 bucks for a jailbreak. For each and every time it needed to be updated and jailbroken. If I did it twice a year, it would only cost me 200 bucks for the life of each phone (i upgrade every couple of years) and well worth it. Understanding that I make a lot more money then most though, I can see this business model not working for the masses.
 
So if someone developed a jail break that required you to connect to their server in order to jail break your device, and they wanted to sell that service, just exactly how would the "community" not put up with it?

Release a JB using the same exploit for free.

No, the kids who couldn't afford the (low) charge would complain while the rest of us would be happy enjoying our jailbreak.

I'd pay. I've already bought software on Cydia. But the JB community wouldn't tolerate it.

See, I don't know if its just me or what, but technically an underground model for a Purchased Jailbreak "could" work.

We just have to use some other names for the Jailbreak community and it kind of makes sense.

Saurik could be "Apple", or....in this case more appropriately "App store"
Jailbreak tweaks could be "Apps", with both free and payed apps, and ad supported
and Jailbreak team could be just "iOS development team"

Here we have the iOS development team being paid (in part originally, but we have to modify to fully) by proceeds from the App Store, minus the costs of running the app store and its servers (repos). The devs would split their earnings by 30-70, with 30% going to the App store. This cuts into the profits of devs, so lets add another layer where the user has to pay to use the app store. This way we don't have to rely on donations to power iOS Development, there could be dedicated jailbreakers due to the income, and users get a faster/easier/stable jailbreak.

I know its not very likely, but think about it, this way we could pool our exploits by actually buying them from devs (causing sharing of resources), have a faster, more resourceful Jailbreak team, and people who want to jailbreak, just pay for it, leading to less pirates (as we know they won't pay for it, because they could have just gone and bought the original apps), and most of all it would be a regulated and stable community......


utopia anyone?

You're actually on to something there- the Jailbroken app developers and Saurik IT both have massive financial incentive to get a JB out for iOS 6.

You realise that there is a better version of google maps available for iOS 6 than was included in previous iOS versions?

There is no Google Maps for 5.0.1. It requires 5.1 or later. There is a JB for 5.1.1, but there is no way to get from 5.0.1 to 5.1.1.

6.1 with JB will also un-break my iMessage, as it is broken because my camera is disabled through parental controls (for work), although that I don't care about, as I have unlimited texting, and I barely know anyone who has an iPhone.
 
not sure if i misunderstood his words but he said they wanted to keep that exploit for future jailbreaks, not that they will release it when ios 6.1 comes out. am i wrong?

i'm spanish so it's possible i misunderstood. thanks!
 
not sure if i misunderstood his words but he said they wanted to keep that exploit for future jailbreaks, not that they will release it when ios 6.1 comes out. am i wrong?

i'm spanish so it's possible i misunderstood. thanks!

From what I understand, what he meant by saying keep that exploit for future jailbreaks is :

When iOS 6.1 is released, he will go over the the firmware files again to see if the exploit is still there

- If it is, he MIGHT take another step : testing as much as he could to see if the major release has some significant bugs. If 6.1 doesn't, he will jailbreak iOS 6.1 because the exploit remains. If 6.1 has significant bugs that require minor updates, if I were him, I would wait a little bit more for Apple to release a patch, then jailbreak it again as minor update tends to patches the error instead of fixing up the jailbreak exploit as it has not been released.

- If iOS 6.1 patches up the exploit, there is no reason he would hold back the jailbreak for the community. Hence, he will find previously unused bugs to jailbreak iOS 6.1.

The war between dev team and Apple engineers is actually a mind war, if one does bad timing, the other will make advantage of it :D
 
I'm very encouraged by this. I mistakenly updated to 6.0 on my 4s, it was jb w/ 5.1.1, can't wait to get my nc settings, etc. back.
 
Still holding onto my 5.1.1 JB until this vaporware hit's the streets.

I wonder if this is (parcially) why Apple is dragging out 6.1. To let the JB community twist in the breeze.
 
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