Even social media companies the depend on views, especially of viral content have decided that spreading false information = removal
"A video featuring a group of doctors making false and dubious claims related to the coronavirus was removed by Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube after going viral online Monday."
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Social media giants remove viral video with false coronavirus claims that Trump retweeted
A video featuring a group of doctors making false and dubious claims related to the coronavirus was removed by Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube after going viral online Monday.www.cnn.com
"Twitter temporarily restricts Donald Trump Jr.'s account after he posts video claiming masks are unnecessary"
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Twitter temporarily restricts Donald Trump Jr.'s account after he posts video claiming masks are unnecessary
Twitter restricted Donald Trump Jr.'s ability to tweet after he posted a video featuring a doctor making false claims about coronavirus cures and stating that people "don't need masks" to prevent the virus from spreading, a Twitter spokesperson said Tuesday.www.cnn.com
Yet MR is actively allowing this video to be posted in PRSI, this tells you all you need to know about their stance on this issue.Even social media companies the depend on views, especially of viral content have decided that spreading false information = removal
"A video featuring a group of doctors making false and dubious claims related to the coronavirus was removed by Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube after going viral online Monday."
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Social media giants remove viral video with false coronavirus claims that Trump retweeted
A video featuring a group of doctors making false and dubious claims related to the coronavirus was removed by Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube after going viral online Monday.www.cnn.com
"Twitter temporarily restricts Donald Trump Jr.'s account after he posts video claiming masks are unnecessary"
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Twitter temporarily restricts Donald Trump Jr.'s account after he posts video claiming masks are unnecessary
Twitter restricted Donald Trump Jr.'s ability to tweet after he posted a video featuring a doctor making false claims about coronavirus cures and stating that people "don't need masks" to prevent the virus from spreading, a Twitter spokesperson said Tuesday.www.cnn.com
Yet MR is actively allowing this video to be posted in PRSI, this tells you all you need to know about their stance on this issue.
It's also the interpretation of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. I would call that pretty compelling precedent.No, it doesn't. That's your interpretation of what's going on.
Neither facebook, twitter or youtube are online internet discussion forums. As quickly as material is posted, that is how quick a response to the material is, in a following post. Also, posting of certain material can be construed to be educational rather than intentionally misleading.It's also the interpretation of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. I would call that pretty compelling precedent.
Yet MR is actively allowing this video to be posted in PRSI, this tells you all you need to know about their stance on this issue.
I would call it censorship. It's probably better to have a video like that debunked/discussed, as can be done through discussion in PRSI here at MacRumors.It's also the interpretation of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. I would call that pretty compelling precedent.
This is not a topic that should be up for debate and while I get it has turned political and there are differing opinions. The spread of misinformation can cost lives, please consider adding this to your rules.
I think that would take censorship too far.
Definitely not a topic that should be up for debate. Free speech is all well and good until it hurts people, often deliberately so.
There's something that can make someone uncomfortable and there's something that can be just be dangerously false.So you're saying free speech is good so long as it doesn't make you uncomfortable?
Sorry, but you can't have free speech without it being "free". Something is either "free" or it isn't.
It's either "free" or it's simply a discussion regarding the size of the cage.
Yes, "freedom" sometimes means dealing with things you personally find uncomfortable. Deal with it, like an adult.
PRSI is just more productive than Community Discussion, both in terms of lines of dialogue written and audience engagement metrics.I do appreciate that they didn't ban political discussion here like every other website does lol. Like political discussion should only happen somewhere else lol.
OTOH, every time a mildly controversial topic gets pushed off to PRSI for our resident .. erm.. "alternate facts" people to bully everyone else away from it.. I get sad. XD
dangerously false.
Rebutting with evidence something that can be specifically meant to be there simply to spread something that's (dangerously) false often won't do much as reality will just be ignored since that isn't what's being sought or considered.Then rebut, with evidence and educate the ill informed.
Sweeping it under the rug just breeds ignorance.
Rebutting with evidence something that can be specifically meant to be there simply to spread something that's (dangerously) false often won't do much as reality will just be ignored since that isn't what's being sought or considered.
Either you want freedom of speech, or you want something that has restrictions on it, that isn't freedom of speech.
You can argue with them until you are blue in the face, but they will never listen. The one good thing about it is if there are neutrals watching, and enough counter the idiots, those neutrals hopefully see how many are against the misinformation and don't listen.This would ensure people with dangerous ideas remain throughly convinced of them.
Exactly. Whether or not you have pineapple on pizza doesn't kill or permanently damage anyone.That begs the question: how do you differentiate between an opinion and a harmful falsehood?
This isn't something MR can solve. Heck FB and Twitter and Reddit and pretty much the entire internet is struggling with this question. I don't think you can differentiate between the two, and thus the difference is irrelevant.
We all agree that falsely yelling "FIRE!" in a movie theater is dangerous, not protected speech, should be censored, and has not led to a slippery slope of many bad things. It's a harmful falsehood.
Does saying "In my opinion, this theater is on FIRE" make it any better? Classifying it as an opinion doesn't make it any less dangerous.
I feel the mask thing is the same. Saying "masks don't work" and "in my opinion, masks don't work" are equally bad. The former is an falsehood, the latter is an opinion; they're both equally harmful.
Some have weaponized this idea that "opinions" are automatically protected speech no matter what. But it's bull. The content/context matters, whether it's in the form of an opinion or not.
Yes, and at least then you know what you are getting into if you go to PRSI, and I just ignore what doesn't interest me. No one forces anyone to go there. Can't you even totally hide the section somehow?It probably just serves as a gutter for the forum!Like a navel that gathers up all the lint. If PRSI didn't exist, you'd probably have the same discussions on the news/technology threads.
Exactly what I thought too. Why is this thread not in PRSI?I get it’s a fine line to walk. Though shouldn’t this entire thread be in PRSI? Asking for censorship of an active political topic is certainly itself political in nature. Stating that there is or was ambiguity helps to show why censorship is a bad idea.
Yes, even if you were the only one in the car. If the initial accident knocks you unconscious because you didn't have your seatbelt on, you can't even attempt to avoid hitting other people or cars with people.Probably a poor analogy.
In NH, adults are not required by law to wear a seatbelt.
But money isn't the issue in itself. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil aka greed. Same as most tools, they are neutral and it's the users that are good or evil to varying degrees.So did, does, and will do money. Yet I don’t think you refuse them and live like a pauper (neither do I!!).
Should we also stop talking about financial/economics matters?
But money isn't the issue in itself. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil aka greed. Same as most tools, they are neutral and it's the users that are good or evil to varying degrees.
It seems to me that if we want people to make better decisions, we should concentrate on persuading them, not forbidding discussion of the topics on which they are misinformed.
Sorry, but I cannot let that slide without...People even kill for a disagreement on the philosophy of Immanuel Kant!