Please help me - iPhone vs Android purchase

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by NoCleverSNForMe, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. NoCleverSNForMe macrumors regular

    Jul 12, 2003
    I've been a huge fan of Apple since I was kid. (Check my join date - long before the iPhone!)

    I switched to Android a few years ago, currently holding a Galaxy Note 5. I am waffling on whether or not I should switch back to iOS for the iPhone 7.

    I went to the Apple Store today and asked them to point out benefits in iOS over my Galaxy Note. The employee pulled out a Galaxy S7 and said, "I can't help you with that."

    I genuinely want to know - why do you like your iPhone? Have any of you switched from Android? If so, what do you like? What do you miss?

    Thank you SO MUCH!
  2. Awesomesince86 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2016
    I am typing this on my iPhone 7plus, my first iPhone device since the IPhone 5 I think. I've been a hardcore android supporter since the G1. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to keep the 7+ but I'll try to give you some feedback based on my experience with both systems.

    Android pros:
    -'s been talked about a million times. More ways to make the phone yours.
    - Cheaper top end devices. You can get too end devices like the Nexus 6p for less than $400 dollars.
    - Notifications are miles better in android. Although iOS 10 has improved a lot.
    - More device options. Some have things that apple would never allow such as microsd card or remove able batteries.
    - more open ecosystem.
    - More innovative features. Google are now ahead of apple in terms of new features each year.

    Android cons:
    - fragmentation. It's hard to control the OS when so many different manufactures have their own skins and apps included. It leads to problems in battery life and performance that google can't control.
    - Slow updates. This is unacceptable, especially when it comes to security updates but that's what happens when carriers and manufacturers are in control.
    - Carrier bloat ware. Awful and unless you have a nexus device or root, you can't remove it.

    iPhone pros:
    - build quality is top notch. The phone feels much more premium in hand.
    - Speed. Some android phones show lag after time and have trouble with RAM management. iOS is optimized to work with iPhones so the ram management and speed is incredible.
    - Battery life is much better. Doze on android still has a ways to go. With the 7+ I get several hours beyond what I would get on my 6p.
    - Apps are just better on iOS. Nothing more to say.
    - Fingeprint scanner and haptic feedback is top of its class.
    - 3D Touch, while limited now has big potential.

    iPhone cons:
    - Price. Ugh.
    - Screen resolution. It should get a bump next year but as of right now, it just can't hang with Qhd screens. However, it's still amazing for an LCD.
    - Overly simplistic. Some may call this a positive but I get frustrated with how limited I am with some options.
    - No back button.
    - Apple accessories and cables not being the standard USB C.
    - iTunes.

    All in all, I'm happy with the switch so far. There's plenty I haven't listed so ask me anything and I'll try to help. I used to love customizing and rooting my android phones, but I just don't have the time anymore so I'm happy having one that just works...even if it's capabilities are a little limited.
  3. NoCleverSNForMe thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 12, 2003
    You are AWESOME. Thank you!!

    A follow up question - do you miss Google Photos? Is it the same experience on an iPhone? Also, do you still use other Google services on your iPhone? (Maps is obvious, but what about email/calendar/contacts/etc) Does it work well or the same as Android?

    Thank you so much man!
  4. OneMike macrumors 603


    Oct 19, 2005
    There is not a benefit in iOS vs android. At the end of the day it's preference and what you're invested in.
  5. yankeebobo macrumors regular


    Mar 7, 2014
    Somewhere in my head
    The above sums it up very well. I used to use android devices for work and many outline my findings even back a little while. But the security updates were one of my gotchas. The various chip makers got their drivers out but more often than not the core system want updated often enough after the first year, and after 18-20 months those updates are almost non existent. Since apple controls the hardware and software, the updates are within their control. No third party.

    Yes, some of the pros mentioned are lagging with Apple, but I found it more stable longer term.

    As a side note, I'm surprised that Apple hasn't given the employee a hard time
  6. Awesomesince86 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2016
    I still use many google services on my iPhone and so far it hasn't been that bad. Sure they might not have all the functionality they would on Android but they're pretty much the same. I still use google maps on the iPhone and it works great. I still sync and use google photos and it's pretty much the same experience. The only area it's lacking is when I want to attach a picture in a message and it only lets me look in the iPhone photos app. Other than that it works fine.

    As far as handling email, I use google inbox for my personal email which works fine and I use outlook for my work email which is excellent on iOS. And I still have my default calendar as my gmail calendar, but I use the iOS app.
  7. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    This Apple Store employee should seriously be fired. S/He is obliged to promote Apple products while on duty, earning a salary from Apple.
  8. Blaze4G macrumors 65816

    Oct 31, 2015
    That's true but I prefer him being honest than lying to try and sell a product.

    To the OP, since you have a note 5 I would honestly wait until next year phones.
  9. Channan macrumors 68030


    Mar 7, 2012
    New Orleans
    I easily prefer Android over iOS, but I can't give up iOS completely. Luckily for me, I don't have to.

    I use both daily.
  10. mazdamiata210 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 28, 2014
  11. werked macrumors regular


    Sep 11, 2016
    This is my first iphone. Always been an android fan, especially pure android. Will see how it goes, wanted something different.
  12. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    He/She should be fired for carrying a samsung on duty, period.

    I never worked at the Apple Store but I'm very sure they provided training on the new iPhone launch to their employees. They should have no problem explaining the nice features of iPhones over Samsung. To name a few: security, post-sale (and out of warranty) customer support, OS updates (even for older devices), a biggest user base from a single product line, family sharing and restrictions, full integration with a computer OS...
  13. jshtroutman macrumors regular


    Sep 9, 2016
    I've owned both android and iPhone over the years. Been apart of both ecosystems to an extent. I've learned a lot about both and they both have there benifits. What it all boils down to is this. Don't switch back to iOS for the iPhone 7. Switch back for the ecosystem. The integration between apple devices, the garenteed updates that will keep coming for years, the in my opinion "better apps". The better customer support and best resale value of its product. That's where apples real value is. If your in to the devices them selves android will be the way to go, better screens, more features "when they work". Latest and greatest cutting edge whatever. Neither is bad or better. Just how you enjoy your device.
  14. Channan macrumors 68030


    Mar 7, 2012
    New Orleans
    That's a bit harsh. I think Apple would have a hard time firing someone for having their personal phone on them because it's a competitor's product unless they didn't allow anyone to carry a personal phone with them.

    Now attempting to dissuade a potential customer from buying your product is a big no-no.
  15. Awesomesince86 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2016
    Frankly, this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Fired for carrying a Samsung device? I'm sure he'd be happy to carry an iPhone if they provide him with one. Otherwise, what he uses as his personal phone is his business. Should a McDonalds employee get fired for eating at Burger King? Should a Honda car salesman get fired for driving a Chevy to work? It's a ridiculous notion.
  16. gdeputy macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2008
    New York
    I'll say this.. I have Google Photos on my iPhone and use it to back up all my photos.. so.. there is that.
  17. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    Legally, may be not. But if I were the manager, and I knew one of my salespeople bought a Samsung, I would definitely tell him/her that he/she is not allowed to bring it to work if he/she wants to keep the job.
  18. UnluckyXIII macrumors 6502

    Feb 20, 2014
    I'm actually the other side of the coin, two years ago my upgrade was due but the contracts on offer plus the upfront cost put me off the iPhone 6, instead I settled for a Note 4 which came on a more attractive contract, was cheaper monthly line rental and no upfront cost.

    Unfortunately although the Note 4 appeared to be an amazing phone on paper and by no means was in poor in use it just lacked so much that I'd become accustomed to with iOS. Firstly the android software crashes... a lot! Silly little glitches, battery problems, predictive text/dictionary randomally reseting (several times) and RAM management issues to name a few (first post covers cons really well).

    I'm excited that my two years of torture are over and that I can return to iOS, I'd take the stability and smooth operation of iOS over all of the customisation from android that you can throw at me. The features available on some android handsets might have a "wow/look at me factor" but the question you need to ask yourself is how often will you actually use them, I'm sure I only scratched the surface with the features on the Note 4 (don't think I ever used the IR blaster or heart rate monitor) and I bet it's the same for most other people.

    In reality both systems have there good and bad parts and it does come down to personal preference so after years of android you might feel exactly like I did going from iOS to Android.
  19. maxsix Suspended


    Jun 28, 2015
    Western Hemisphere
    I like my iPhone 6S Plus because I'm a decades long Apple customer, enthusiast, investor.

    I prefer my Nexus 6P because it's highly useful, does true multitasking, has a file system like a computer, uses fast efficient capacitive buttons and runs Android. It gets the latest updates just like my iPhone does, making it the only Android to compare fairly with iPhone.

    Having used both Android and iPhone concurrently since their inception, it's been fun and educational. Pick one... They're both excellent.
  20. foxconn, Sep 20, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2016

    foxconn Suspended

    Sep 6, 2016
    You're taking life way too seriously
  21. rawlus macrumors 6502

    Mar 3, 2009
    I've worked in a few branded industries and it's frankly disingenuous to patronize a direct competitor To the brand you are representing. Food may be a slightly different issue as you are not promoting he competitor brand as much as eating. But wearing Nike while working for Adidas, or wearing Reebok while working for Under Armor shows a lack of brand loyalty and an understanding of what drives your own compensation in your job.

    Apple especially the interview process to work in a Apple Store is a complicated 6 or 7 step process, multiple rounds of increasingly intensive interviews, demonstrating how App,e products play or can p,at a role in your own life. You are not just a line employee like a burger flipper, everyone in that floor is a brand ambassador... there are several brands that operate with this mentality, that your employees closest to the customer are the bearers of your brand.. Starbucks, UPS, Apple and a few others. It's not supposed to be just a job, they don't want people who see it as just a job.

    So, yes, it is completely legit to warn employees who are not upholding the brand principles and after warning, termination is appropriate (or if they have been previously told that showing, promoting or otherwise working against the brand will result in termination). You are there to do a job, not promote your independence and personal point of view if it conflicts with the role you have been hired for)

    In the stated scenario, an Apple employee saying "can't help you" and displaying his personal competitor product? Yes, escort out of the store, today is your last day. We will mail you your check.
  22. Channan macrumors 68030


    Mar 7, 2012
    New Orleans
    You can't tell one employee they're not allowed to bring their phone to work because you don't like the phone they have without telling all of your employees the same thing, regardless of the type of phone they have.
  23. rawlus macrumors 6502

    Mar 3, 2009
    You can actually. You're not entitled to that job and they can choose to get rid of you for whatever reason they choose, as long as it is not gender, race, age,etc. but brands like Apple, where you are a retail ambassador, it is part of the orientation/training that you don't promote competitor products in the floor and you don't refuse to promote your employers products because you don't believe in them. Absolutely a fire able offense.
  24. tperry macrumors regular


    Apr 3, 2011
    East Texas
    Really? So, if you work for any company that promotes or manufactures a specific product (Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc) then you should ONLY be able to own that vehicle?
    Now, if Apple wants to GIVE them a phone while they are employed and tell them that use of it while at work is required - then that's another matter. But to dictate that they HAVE to purchase their own iPhone and they are not allowed to own any other type is a little... Apple'ish shall we say. :rolleyes:
    I MUCH prefer honesty in a sales person. Nothing pisses me off more than a drone selling a company line when you know that a lot of that line is full of bull.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 20, 2016 ---
    Main reason I stick with iPhone is because my primary desktop is a Mac. The integration between the two is really nice.
  25. rawlus macrumors 6502

    Mar 3, 2009
    This is not the scenario being played out.
    The scenario that happened above using your car analogy is a saleman at a ford dealership is approached on the showroom floor by someone asking new Ford F-150 and the salesman dangles his chevy keys and says, can't help you.

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