Then you'd have to ban ALL your employees. If it's not a written company policy you can't "pick and choose" as then you have shown favoritism and with the court system what it is today (litigious) you would probably loose.
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Please help me - iPhone vs Android purchase
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Apple cannot dictate what you own personally, it they can tel,you that when you are on the clock collecting money from apple, you don't "sell" Samsung.
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Wrong. The duties of the job are to promote the app,e brand and sell app,e products and answer questions about Apple products. This hypothetical worker did not do that job, he flashed a competitor product and said sorry bud can't help you. Fired.
Agree... but if the employee goes "Well, I own a chevy and these are the X to Y comparisons" I'll appreciate that honesty a LOT more. Each product has it's strengths and weaknesses.
What I was responding to was the specific quote of
From what that leads you to believe is that you can't say anything good about a competing product (a strength that it may have compared to the Apple). We all know that the iPhone is not perfect and everything and there are other phones that have strengths to the iPhone weakness. Honesty by a sales person will usually end up in a sale with me since I'm already leaning towards that product or I wouldn't be in the store.
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Please keep the quote in context.
The response was in relation to this statment:
Unless the business is going to provide them with a certain phone OR restrict ALL employees from bringing in their personal phone, they are going to have to have a hard time forcing someone to not bring in another brand unless it was part of the employment contract or a written rule (which I seriously doubt Apple has a rule that says you cannot bring a personally owned phone other than an Apple one to work - but I've never worked there so I cant' say for sure).
I agree a balanced opinion is of value to you, but you don't get that if you are asking brand x to talk positive about brand y. Where in your life do you see this happening at brand flagship stores? (Not regular retail of course where they make a sale no matter what you choose)
Does the AT&T guy admit that Verizon has some advantages over AT&T? Does he say sorry, can't tel, you about cal, quality because I use Verizon?
If you ran a pizza joint, would you want your employee telling customers that he can stay how good the food is because he always eats st the competitors restaurant? Can you see how this is insane?
If you want a balanced opinion, go to Best Buy where they sell both and have them run down the pros and cons of each. Nike is not going to convince you to buy a Adidas.
This.
I've alternated between android and iOS over the years and have stuck with Apple since the 5s. In my experience, android tends to lag more over time as your device gets older (that's if you decide to hold on to it over a year) whereas iOS still feels fresh as if you've just taken it out of the box brand new. As for updates, I don't have to wait for the carrier to approve and release their updates which can take a long time unless of course you go with Nexus devices.
But of course in the end, it'll be your phone and everyone has their own preference to which they'd prefer more. They both are also gonna do what you want it to do too (texting, social media, emails, etc) and in their own right, they do it quite well.
I just prefer iOS for stability and usability.
You bet. If I were the manger of an Apple Store, I'll tell all my employees to leave their non Apple products at home.
That's why Apple offers special discounts and EPP for employees to acquire Apple products. For example, 50% on Apple Watch.
When I worked for Adidas/Reebok - employees were not permitted to wear direct competitors (a long list was specified) on campus, in corporate, at company events, when representing the company on business, and so on. Your personal life was yours... but you don't show up at a trade show wearing Nike walking customers through the new footwear line...
[doublepost=1474426040][/doublepost]Employees didn't bitch because Nike was not paying our salary and every Nike sale was a sale we weren't reaping the benefit of. People get laid off when their company doesn't do well.. it tends to motivate you to rep your brand..
[doublepost=1474426040][/doublepost]Employees didn't bitch because Nike was not paying our salary and every Nike sale was a sale we weren't reaping the benefit of. People get laid off when their company doesn't do well.. it tends to motivate you to rep your brand..
Your comment implies that you would approve your employees to show support of your major competitors to potential customers, during paid working hours.
That makes no sense to me.
Stupid debate aside, I disagree that the main reason to get an iPhone is to join the ecosystem. I don't have any other Apple products and I am firmly entrenched in Google (gmail, docs, photos, google now, etc). The reasons I switched over were to try something different, improve battery life, have a device with improved apps, seamless updates, and because of the hardware quality. I still enjoy android, probably more than iOS, but in the end most of us on an iPhone forum are tech nerds to a degree and enjoy getting new devices. I'll probably switch back to android after a year but I'll see what all Apple has to offer first.
So workers who has a different brand phone than an iPhone should be banned from carrying their phones to work? how silly does that sound to you?
So a BMW sales man should not drive his Lexus to work?
A Ferarri sales man should not drive his Honda to work?
If Apple is giving them free iPhones then yes they can enforce only iPhones must be used in their stores by them. But that is not the case.
I agree he should have tried to list all the pros of the iPhones over the Samsung. However if I am an ignorant consumer, I would prefer a sales man tell the truth. If I am the owner of Apple I would be upset. But neither you or I am, so why so upset?
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no, this is what was said by silverblack that everyone disagreed with:
"Legally, may be not. But if I were the manager, and I knew one of my salespeople bought a Samsung, I would definitely tell him/her that he/she is not allowed to bring it to work if he/she wants to keep the job."
I was a long time android user have had galaxy 1-7 and 3-5 notes, the s7 was the last straw for me it lagged so damn bad it wasn't funny battery life was a joke had to charge it 2-3 times a day. It was terrible before that I actually said i would never own an iphone well I decided i would try the iPhone 7 now that I have this phone I love it. It's so much faster and battery life is way better. Just thought I'd throw my opinion out there since I was a hardcore android user. Don't get me wrong there are a few things that androids have better but performance isn't one.
I have had an iPhone since many years, but tried Android in between a couple of times. Most recently for the last month, as my iPhone 6 broke down, and I needed a good camera on my phone for traveling, and an affordable price. So I got an Android. And to be honest I haven't used it to it's full potential. Kept it very basic and set it up in folders almost to match my iPhone.
I am going back to iPhone with a 7 Plus because I prefer the OS for my use - I don't need customization. I like having my notes sync across from my iPhone to iPad, Macbook, etc.
I am a pretty heavy google user - I use gmail for personal and our work is a Google apps user.
I also switched to Google Photos and I backup my photos fine - the only issue is, it doesn't back up if I don't open the app, and mostly have to have the app running as it backs up. So it is not as instantaneous as on Android. For me that is not enough to give up iOS, but it was nice not having to think about backing up my photos while using Android.
I did like the notifications on my LG G5, and able to reply, and read the entire message by pulling down on the notification. I haven't tried ios10 yet, but I hope things will be improved.
But I do agree Apple is behind (in camera to Samsung) and customization and freedom to Android.
I don't get why some people are strictly one way or against and OS. It is really personal preference. I like to keep my phone clean and simple so iOS works for me.
I am going back to iPhone with a 7 Plus because I prefer the OS for my use - I don't need customization. I like having my notes sync across from my iPhone to iPad, Macbook, etc.
I am a pretty heavy google user - I use gmail for personal and our work is a Google apps user.
I also switched to Google Photos and I backup my photos fine - the only issue is, it doesn't back up if I don't open the app, and mostly have to have the app running as it backs up. So it is not as instantaneous as on Android. For me that is not enough to give up iOS, but it was nice not having to think about backing up my photos while using Android.
I did like the notifications on my LG G5, and able to reply, and read the entire message by pulling down on the notification. I haven't tried ios10 yet, but I hope things will be improved.
But I do agree Apple is behind (in camera to Samsung) and customization and freedom to Android.
I don't get why some people are strictly one way or against and OS. It is really personal preference. I like to keep my phone clean and simple so iOS works for me.
You're insane, throughout this whole thread. No, having a different cell phone is not a firable offense. No, you cannot demand an employee leave his cell phone at work. There are laws about this kind of thing.
Hence, why all of your arguments start with, "If I was the manager at an Apple Store"... I'd like to wager that the manager of a retail store belonging to a company as big as Apple, and one that treats their employees extremely well like Apple does, has a little more insight on the issue than you do. You'd be in trouble with Apple if you chose to fire an employee based on their choice of cell phone.
However, pulling out a Samsung and saying. "Sorry, can't help you" to a customer is extremely unprofessional.
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Your comment implies that you would approve someone losing their job based on their cell phone preference. What's the bigger crime here?
I tried the note 7 for a few days and it's a good phone but I have 2 iPads, an iMac and a Mac book pro and just missed the way everything worked together. I only had it a week and back it went and ordered the 7 plus. Was never so happy when it came in a few days ago.
I'm not saying the guy should be allowed to promote a competitor's product on the clock or dangle them in someone's face in front of customers you're helping like this guy did, but you can't flat out ban one employee from having/using his phone without doing the same for everyone.
It's idiotic anyway, since you're trying to sell products for the company you work for to keep your job.
I never said the offence was 'having' (owing) a non Apple phone. It was about keeping it in the pocket during work. To begin with, there is no reason why employees should carry a phone *for personal use* when they are on the sales floor. I am sure many companies have policies that you cannot answer personal calls, or check your texts, when on duty. It does not violate any laws.
Yes, I did see Apple geniuses pulling out a phone *for work*, like showing customers a webpage. And yes, in that case, it better damn well be an iPhone, in my opinion.
By the way, as customers, I would not buy my Honda from a salesman who drives a Ford. Exotic cars aside, one can always afford at least a used car of the brand he/she works for. Besides they usually get great employee discounts.
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I personally like being able to connect my android phone to a pc and copy my important folders to my pc or drag and drop music-video files onto the phone...plus being able to manage files on the phone itself and move them back and forth to an micro sd card. You don't realize how convenient this is until you don't have that option anymore. I like both os's though, it gets boring otherwise to totally lock yourself into just one.
You lack any grasp of reality. So if you're the manager of a honda dealer and you're hiring. The first question you would ask is if you drive a Honda right?
Frankly, if you made the switch and you've been fine up to now, then stay with Android.
Why be sucked back to Apple?
Their phones cost more and if you weren't missing iMessage, FaceTime, and the other things...what's the reason to change?
If you were missing these things, then Yeah...go back.
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I really hope you don't manage people, that is an absurd and ridiculous reason to threaten somebody's livelihood over.
In my comments on car salesmen above, I never use terms like "must" or "fire". But since you brought it up, if I were the manager and the interviewee is driving another brand, I would at least ask what is his/her intention regarding that car if he/she were hired as one of my permanent staff. If there were another applicant, who is *equally qualified* but drives my company's brand, wouldn't you hire that person first?
I am very curious to hear what you would do in this particular case. You were the Apple Store manager, and you saw your salesperson pulled out a Samsung S7 on the sales floor, either for his/her personal use, or even worse, showing it to a customer. What would you tell him or her?
I am indeed in management, and perhaps for that reason, I naturally think and act in a company's interest. I can see that those think from the employees' point of view would find my comments unreasonable.
Nope. What a persons owns has no bearing on if I should hire them or not. So a candidate that needs to haul his boat every weekend should sell his boat because he has to drive a Honda for work and Honda doesn't have any full size pick up to haul his boat. Good job.
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You are giving me a special case that justifies why such person is not driving a Honda. You already unintentionally agreed with me, that it takes such special circumstance for someone not to drive the brand of car he/she is employed by.
What if this interviewee tells you: "Nope I don't drive a Honda simply because I like Toyota better? I never owned a Honda, and don't intend to". Now, does it have any bearing in your hiring?