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And I can see by your response that hyperbole and absolutism is your language. Black. White. Got it. Binary choices. I cannot help you fathom depth nor can I translate for you. You have to make a conscious choice to comprehend and join the conversation. If you can.
I believe that this type of post is exactly what those of us who’ve opted out are trying to avoid.
 
Moderation according to rules that users accept when they register is not censorship, because a private site can be either joined or ignored without a negative impact on the potential user's life, and because users have the opportunity and are indeed prompted to read and consider whether or not they are willing to abide by the rules before completing the registration process.

Further, when rules are changed, removed, or added, this is done based on the staff's experience of users' behavior and/or feedback and suggestions from users.

The sole purpose of the rules and moderation is to encourage civil debate, not to suppress it.
 
The real problem is that so may articles posted by MR invokes political views.
If a certain country or even a continent gets mentioned in the article we get all kinds of "unwanted" (By the forum rules)
political comments.
Now, I don't mind politics in posts at all, most topics are interweaved with politics, like for instance where Apple devices are made.
I actually think it would be better to allow political comments in regular threads as far as they are descent, no swearing/profanity or name calling.
 
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Totally agree with you. MacRumors is a site for everything Apple, and not for American Politics. I usually avoid posting there for now.
 
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The real problem is that so may articles posted by MR invokes political views.
If a certain country or even a continent gets mentioned in the article we get all kinds of "unwanted" (By the forum rules)
political comments.
Now, I don't mind politics in posts at all, most topics are interweaved with politics, like for instance where Apple devices are made.
I actually think it would be better to allow political comments in regular threads as far as they are descent, no swearing/profanity or name calling.

The issue is that politics these days has become so polorized that it's now less about issues and more about labels, which beget tribes which beget mudslinging.

I for one am very happy MR keeps politics etc. out of threads.
 
The issue is that politics these days has become so polorized that it's now less about issues and more about labels, which beget tribes which beget mudslinging.

I for one am very happy MR keeps politics etc. out of threads.

Plenty of countries don't have polarised politics, at least not to an extent as for instance in the UK/USA.
The problem in several countries is the political system, a healthy democracy has (way) more than 2 parties or needs a majority of votes to pass a law, a 49-51% is not a majority in my world.
 
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Late to the thread but... removing myself from PRSI and Macrumors improving the prevention of PRSI threads into my recents has resulted in a much happier Macrumors experience for myself. While I had my small stint in PRSI, it always seemed to end in moderation (thread/post removal, suspensions (not me), etc.). I very much understand yaxomoxay‘s statement about needing to maintain mental sanity.

Some people love to disagree. While I enjoyed reading PRSI for years, participating in it is not something I enjoyed or did much of.

I’m glad Macrumors is doing a much better job at keeping the tech part separate from the PRSI part thanks to the new software.
 
And the number of bot accounts is probably enough to get people to see the futility in it. My twitter account gets cyclically bombed by bots. It's like fighting through a zombie invasion. I'm sure there are some here, hanging out in that area. Ice-T said recently that he 'likes twitter - except for the idiots'. Yeah, pretty much... *shrug*
 
Some people love to disagree.
This. I'll drop in there from time to time and it seems to be the usual suspects arguing the same stuff over and over. The thing I don't get is, after endless posts going back and forth, you'd think they would at some point realize they are never going to change each other's minds. But yet, they continue to drone on and on.
 
This. I'll drop in there from time to time and it seems to be the usual suspects arguing the same stuff over and over. The thing I don't get is, after endless posts going back and forth, you'd think they would at some point realize they are never going to change each other's minds. But yet, they continue to drone on and on.

in all fairness, I love saying that I am right
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The thing is, even if you are right, you'll never convince the other side so what's the point?

In theory, and just in theory, a discussion with other people is not only for the purposes of convincing the other party but also to expand own's knowledge and to better understand own's commitment to a line of argument. This is why I spent time on PRSI despite its frustrating nature.
In all truth, I thought that if it weren't for Covid-19 I would now be on PRSI, however if social media (esp. Facebook) is of any indication right now it's probably the last place I want to be in. Add this insane morbid focus on negativity, number of deaths, trends that are not trends, etc. pushed by media (left and right) and here's another reason to not visit it at the moment.
 
In all truth, I thought that if it weren't for Covid-19 I would now be on PRSI, however if social media (esp. Facebook) is of any indication right now it's probably the last place I want to be in. Add this insane morbid focus on negativity, number of deaths, trends that are not trends, etc. pushed by media (left and right) and here's another reason to not visit it at the moment.
I agree. This is the same reasoning I used to delete my Twitter account forever last month. Even though I limited myself to only certain things/people to follow or interact with, this whole thing this year really polarized people even more. Plus, I was getting tired of the platform for a while anyhow and this was what helped me make the decision to leave it.
 
I mean this in the most positive way: I hope you don't. I really enjoy your posts outside of PRSI, and it's easy to get to wrapped up in what goes on in that forum, and I think that taints a user's karma.

I totally understand what, why (and how) you're saying this.
I have the feeling that most arch-enemies on PRSI are actually people that would be fun to have a beer (or two or three, why not four) with.
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I agree. This is the same reasoning I used to delete my Twitter account forever last month. Even though I limited myself to only certain things/people to follow or interact with, this whole thing this year really polarized people even more. Plus, I was getting tired of the platform for a while anyhow and this was what helped me make the decision to leave it.

Nice move!
Unfortunately due to my job + Covid-19 I have to be aware of what's happening on social media, Twitter included, at least to a basic extent.
However, I took the policy of checking social media only for 5 to 10 minutes in the AM and in the PM, and every morning I post a simple picture with a simple positive message, often a simple "Have a great Tuesday", or "make the best of this day" etc.

is whole thing this year really polarized people even more.

On the topic of social media, my wife remarked something similar this morning about Facebook (She's somewhat of an active user). She said that it's getting worse and worse, and everyone is now posting about this or that conspiracy theory. She's to the point that she will likely stop checking FB, she said that it's reading "old people vocally arguing about irrelevant stuff, and with the wrong information."
 
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In theory, and just in theory, a discussion with other people is not only for the purposes of convincing the other party but also to expand own's knowledge and to better understand own's commitment to a line of argument. This is why I spent time on PRSI despite its frustrating nature.
In all truth, I thought that if it weren't for Covid-19 I would now be on PRSI, however if social media (esp. Facebook) is of any indication right now it's probably the last place I want to be in. Add this insane morbid focus on negativity, number of deaths, trends that are not trends, etc. pushed by media (left and right) and here's another reason to not visit it at the moment.

Thank you! It's something I've said since my time started. I want to learn, there's so much that's led me to research topics I was previously unaware of. That's why it's one of my biggest personal peeves in discussion in PRSI when people refuse to provide information or demand you go look for it to prove their point. When I go look for it in making my point, I am hoping others can look at what I present and provide another view as well that I couldn't take.

All too often some approach PRSI as some kind of competition where what only matters is the last word standing.

Who cares? There are no prizes. There is no pay.

What we get out of this is knowledge we may normally NOT have access to.

I want more international forum members explaining what the true effects of things like Brexit. Relations abroad.

I want more voices from other groups explaining what I realistically can't identify with, without a starting point of some kind.

So many worry about their opinion triumphing & don't realize it's not just the opinion that's important, it's the person sharing it we can possibly ( ill or good ) learn from.
 
When I go look for it in making my point, I am hoping others can look at what I present and provide another view as well that I couldn't take.
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So many worry about their opinion triumphing & don't realize it's not just the opinion that's important, it's the person sharing it we can possibly ( ill or good ) learn from.

Well said.
I will never forget that thread a few months ago in which both of us looked at some hard data and somewhat analyzed it together, coming from two totally different perspectives. It was a very good exercise, at least for me.
 
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