Plot twist: Apple announces iPhone 7 at the March 21 Event

The yearly cycle is deliberate, because most people are either locked in or accustomed to replacing their phones every/every other Fall
 
C DM said:
One would really be impacting the other.
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I'd have to disagree in this. Good marketing can easily overcome technologivsl inferiority. Look at Apple's pricing on storage. It's more expensive than virtually all the competition. It isn't really marketed as superior or even different hardware. And yet it still sells. But one example.

Conversely, one can have vastly superior hardware (look at Microsoft with their surface) and still struggle in the market. Again, much to do with marketing as well as an interim that Apple has built in the market for years.
 
Radon87000 said:
Declining Sales maybe?
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Apple is DOOOOOOOMMMED!

44% smartphone market as ONE manufacturer. Takes many other manufacturers combined to beat them at 51%. (Then there is poor Windows 10 phones that no one cares about)

Even if Apples sales decline, so will others. Because the whole market is declining. And Apple will still sell more than any other individual manufacturer.
 
lordofthereef said:
I'd have to disagree in this. Good marketing can easily overcome technologivsl inferiority. Look at Apple's pricing on storage. It's more expensive than virtually all the competition. It isn't really marketed as superior or even different hardware. And yet it still sells. But one example.

Conversely, one can have vastly superior hardware (look at Microsoft with their surface) and still struggle in the market. Again, much to do with marketing as well as an interim that Apple has built in the market for years.
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Not sure you can just blame bad marketing on the downfall of BlackBerry or Palm. I agree that marketing plays a role, but certainly the actual product plays a good role as well.
 
C DM said:
Not sure you can just blame bad marketing on the downfall of BlackBerry or Palm. I agree that marketing plays a role, but certainly the actual product plays a good role as well.
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Blackberry and Palm didn't react fast enough to a changing market. Microsoft didn't either and had to purchase a manufacturer just to keep some relevance.
 
Superrjamz54 said:
Blackberry and Palm didn't react fast enough to a changing market. Microsoft didn't either and had to purchase a manufacturer just to keep some relevance.
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Right, so their products (in the changing environment) affected their profits.
 
Plot twist: Apple unveils the Apple Car at a sub-$35,000 price point 10 days before Tesla reveals the Model 3.
 
C DM said:
Not sure you can just blame bad marketing on the downfall of BlackBerry or Palm. I agree that marketing plays a role, but certainly the actual product plays a good role as well.
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I'm scratching my head here a bit because I don't even know where blackberry or palm came into the picture. I simply gave you examples of how profits and top of the line hardware dint necessarily go hand in hand and how good marketing can help overcome. If you took that as me saying they never do, than you either misunderstood, or I wasn't clear enough.
 
Not going to happen.
Most of their customer buy the phone with instalment plans, either with carriers or with Apple itself via the new upgrade program. There is no point in releasing a new iPhone 6 months after the previous one, as most customers won't buy it immediately. And many people bought their iPhone in November/December, so their phone is 4 months old, they'd be upset to find out their brand new phone is already obsolete.
It is a good move to announce a new 4'' phone because it won't appeal to the majority of 6s and 6s+ owners and will give people with older iPhones the possibility to upgrade.
And it is a good idea to sell a new iPad too, so they have some models upgraded in Autumn and some in Spring, then there is WWDC in June so every 3/4 months Apple gets free publicity from the media
 
lordofthereef said:
I'm scratching my head here a bit because I don't even know where blackberry or palm came into the picture. I simply gave you examples of how profits and top of the line hardware dint necessarily go hand in hand and how good marketing can help overcome. If you took that as me saying they never do, than you either misunderstood, or I wasn't clear enough.
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You provided an example of it not necessrily being connected one way (as in good things not really leading to windfall all the time), while I provided examples the other way (as in bad things leading toward losses and at the very least not setting profit records) which is somewhat different.
 
C DM said:
You provided an example of it not necessrily being connected one way (as in good things not really leading to windfall all the time), while I provided examples the other way (as in bad things leading toward losses and at the very least not setting profit records) which is somewhat different.
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I still don't understand the need for your example because it's out of context from the point I was making. Anyway, moving on...
 
Apple wouldn't put out a new iPhone commercials the week prior to launching the next generation product (Cookie Monster).
 
Uplift said:
Apple is doing fine. Don't be mislead by 'innovation' with other vendors... it's a numbers game to them, all about smashing the cores, ghz, bazillion GB ram, futuristic features to look better than their competitors(Apple)... Apple will always have the upper hand, they aren't in this race, they focus on user experience, they have the software/hardware optimised to work together perfectly, the eco-system etc... and will always come out on top.
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Yeah but 6s design isn't great, and the 7 isn't shaping up to be any different. The Gs7 is an awesome piece of hardware (can't say anything about software), and Apple really should put more effort into their designs.

Apple just doesn't care about amazing people anymore; they got comfortable and it shows.
 
JM said:
Yeah but 6s design isn't great, and the 7 isn't shaping up to be any different. The Gs7 is an awesome piece of hardware (can't say anything about software), and Apple really should put more effort into their designs.

Apple just doesn't care about amazing people anymore; they got comfortable and it shows.
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The Samsung phones haven't changed a whole lot throughout the years either. The only thing they've done is less rounded 4 corners. Moved from plastic to metal and glass back. And offer an Edge model with a curved display (but still offer the same typical Samsung design in the non Edge version.) All their designs have just been slight tweaks over the previous one through the years. Keeping the same overall look.

iPhones have been no different. And the 7 will be a slight tweak from the 6 era design.
 
lagwagon said:
The Samsung phones haven't changed a whole lot throughout the years either. The only thing they've done is less rounded 4 corners. Moved from plastic to metal and glass back. And offer an Edge model with a curved display (but still offer the same typical Samsung design in the non Edge version.) All their designs have just been slight tweaks over the previous one through the years. Keeping the same overall look.

iPhones have been no different. And the 7 will be a slight tweak from the 6 era design.
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But clearly one is revolutionary while the other isn't. ;)
 
lordofthereef said:
I'd have to disagree in this. Good marketing can easily overcome technologivsl inferiority. Look at Apple's pricing on storage. It's more expensive than virtually all the competition. It isn't really marketed as superior or even different hardware. And yet it still sells. But one example.

Conversely, one can have vastly superior hardware (look at Microsoft with their surface) and still struggle in the market. Again, much to do with marketing as well as an interim that Apple has built in the market for years.
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MS and Surface was vastly superior hardware?

You're kidding or delusional...
 
C DM said:
But clearly one is revolutionary while the other isn't. ;)
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Haha

lagwagon said:
The Samsung phones haven't changed a whole lot throughout the years either. The only thing they've done is less rounded 4 corners. Moved from plastic to metal and glass back. And offer an Edge model with a curved display (but still offer the same typical Samsung design in the non Edge version.) All their designs have just been slight tweaks over the previous one through the years. Keeping the same overall look.

iPhones have been no different. And the 7 will be a slight tweak from the 6 era design.
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I got a chance to look at a Gs7 up close at a Walmart (it was locked down tight so I couldn't hold it unfortunately) and I was really impressed: much more so than the 6s. I don't care for the edge but the s7 is "gorgeous" "phenomenal" "superb" "the best smartphone ever".
 
Closingracer said:
You're using the verge which has an extreme Apple biased? Such a good source..... Bloomberg perhaps but not the verge.....
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It's fact that Apple's last quarter (while didn't have as big of a growth) still grew and broke records with the 6s previously set by the 6, which was the record holder.
 
Closingracer said:
You're using the verge which has an extreme Apple biased? Such a good source..... Bloomberg perhaps but not the verge.....
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Seriously? That's what you are going to try to deflect or spin reality with? Come on now, that just completely shot any credibility that might have been behind anything you might have said.

http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/apple-reports-record-first-quarter-results-20160126-01085

http://fortune.com/2015/01/27/apple-record-earnings-iphone/

http://www.morningstar.com/news/bus...ple-reports-record-first-quarter-results.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...reports-biggest-annual-profit-in-history.html

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/26/technology/apple-earnings/

http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-beats-world-record-in-quarterly-profits-s-p/

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/apple-sold-a-record-number-of-iphones-but-just-barely/
 
Marlos said:
If those iPhone 7 leaks are the real deal, then why should Apple wait until September? Apple is falling behind in the smartphone market. Competitors like Samsung make very innovating products, like the S7 with GearVR. Maybe Apple can boost iPhone sales with an early release of the iPhone 7 along the SE. What do you guys think?
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Whatever you're smokin', how about you pass it around. Must be some really good weed.
 
C DM said:
Seriously? That's what you are going to try to deflect or spin reality with? Come on now, that just completely shot any credibility that might have been behind anything you might have said.

http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/apple-reports-record-first-quarter-results-20160126-01085

http://fortune.com/2015/01/27/apple-record-earnings-iphone/

http://www.morningstar.com/news/bus...ple-reports-record-first-quarter-results.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...reports-biggest-annual-profit-in-history.html

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/26/technology/apple-earnings/

http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-beats-world-record-in-quarterly-profits-s-p/

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/apple-sold-a-record-number-of-iphones-but-just-barely/
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Lol credibility? I just stating you should never use the verge as a source for any material
 
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