No flash support? Does that mean no YouTube? That's gonna be a bit painful for Apple in the age of Web 2.0
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I suspect that that will change no matter what. Remember, the iPhone isn't fully developed yet. Apple may be talking to Adobe about Flash support for the iPhone...
I'm impressed by the phone's UI, but the functionality is half-baked so far.
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I'm very confident that Apple will bring more apps and greater functionality to the iPhone. They got themselves a great basis for future applications.
I'm really excited to see how the iPhone will develop.
EDIT:
I'm very confident that Apple will bring more apps and greater functionality to the iPhone. They got themselves a great basis for future applications.
I'm really excited to see how the iPhone will develop.
Yawn....save the bleating for when this thing is finalised. It might be crippled junk and not worth picking up but we won't know until it's released.
Such wonderful insight. Thanks.
For those that actually contribute to the conversation, the price is justified. You need to take out the price of the iPod that you're buying with the iPhone to understand it. 499-199=300. That's about right for a brand new, top of the line smartphone.
Hardware wise, it's all there. It's just getting the software up to snuff, so to speak, in the next 6 months.
Personally, I think it's time Apple ditched iTunes as the sync engine and went back to using iSync, even for iPods. Just bundle iSync for Windows with the iTunes 7.1 download... it makes more sense for me that way.
Personally, I think it's time Apple ditched iTunes as the sync engine and went back to using iSync, even for iPods. Just bundle iSync for Windows with the iTunes 7.1 download... it makes more sense for me that way.
I, too, read in this forum that it does support flash and java, but no more plug ins than that.
Since it doesn't support Outlook, I guess it doesn't sync with Entourage?
Since it doesn't support Outlook, I guess it doesn't sync with Entourage?
"Does the Web browser support Flash or Java? No."
Umm....then how does it work with Yahoo or Google maps? No Java?? Maybe Im missing something.
Umm....then how does it work with Yahoo or Google maps? No Java?? Maybe Im missing something.
After reading Dave's full post, I am left thinking, what the hell does it actually do?
Did you miss the 1 1/2 hour long explanation of what it DOES, that Steve gave a few days ago???
Yeah I noticed the overloading of the iTunes app too. They need a rethink really to make the app appear consistent. At least the name should be changed. Maybe it will be in Leopard (again waay to early to tell).
It's getting to be a bummer
Seems like day by day this phone is less and less kewl. I can't see buying one until I get.
Wifi-Bluetooth Sync... seems like a no brainer?
No Flash? I thought it was a full browser?.... I'm a Flash designer so this is a huge deal to me.
And no 3rd party apps?.... Seems a little insane to me.
Seems like day by day this phone is less and less kewl. I can't see buying one until I get.
Wifi-Bluetooth Sync... seems like a no brainer?
No Flash? I thought it was a full browser?.... I'm a Flash designer so this is a huge deal to me.
And no 3rd party apps?.... Seems a little insane to me.
People, ease up man!
Everyone needs to ease up a little here. The Apple Phone has not even been approved yet and by the time it has there will be a marked difference between what comes to market and the intro device in terms of advancement.
I will say this, at this stage this device is clearly better than anything out there in terms of design, UI, ease of use and the apps available albeit in some peoples eyes limited.
The most interesting thing will be how will the current market leaders respond given that the Apple Phone tech is patented to the hilt.
I think Apple will make a considerable amount of money not only from the product but also patent disputes.
David Pogue has complied a list of frequently asked questions about the Apple iPhone. Pogue had some hands on time with the iPhone earlier this week.
A few of the more interesting/revealing answers are listed here:
The full FAQ list is available at his blog.
Everyone needs to ease up a little here. The Apple Phone has not even been approved yet and by the time it has there will be a marked difference between what comes to market and the intro device in terms of advancement.
I will say this, at this stage this device is clearly better than anything out there in terms of design, UI, ease of use and the apps available albeit in some peoples eyes limited.
The most interesting thing will be how will the current market leaders respond given that the Apple Phone tech is patented to the hilt.
I think Apple will make a considerable amount of money not only from the product but also patent disputes.
I don't think anyone is knocking the hardware and UI.
I do think it's becoming clear though that the direction they intend to take the iPhone in is very much crippled by the phone operator and modelled the way the iPod market works.
I think locking out 3rd party developers is a big mistake, and I can see 'updates' to the phone being done in iPod style yearly updates where new features are added to the latest version of the phone as selling points. Rather than it being an ongoing evolving platform which it should be.
Especially considering one of their killer-app demo features - Cover Flow - wouldn't even be in there if it wasn't for a 3rd party developer. It's such an exciting platform, with so much potential for innovation because of the interface, that it is gutting to see it crippled in this way.
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I swear if I didn't know any better I'd think this was a windoze fan-boy site. You guys are freakin harder on Apple than the M$ boys are! Simmer down - as steve said in the keynote it grabs everything from PCs as well as Macs so I'm thinking no outlook support claimed is likely bogus or hasn't been implemented yet. Flash/Java - that's just crap - no worry, it'll be there. No 3rd party software - that's also crap - as one poster pointed out in another thread Steve actually mentioned the 3rd party people VERBATIM when talking about the reasons for putting OS X on this thing.
I think it has to sync up through iTunes so iTunes can know where all your music is and keep the DRM in check. It's hilarious that you guys are all blaming Apple for this. Lest we not forget the RIAA said we aren't even allowed to have mp3 copies of our own CD's! We wouldn't even have the ability to put it on more than 1 device had Apple not pushed the music industry so hard. That and I have yet to run into any DRM problem - granted I don't own 6 iPods and 6 computers but the way some of you guys talk you MUST have at least this many right????
I swear if I didn't know any better I'd think this was a windoze fan-boy site. You guys are freakin harder on Apple than the M$ boys are! Simmer down - as steve said in the keynote it grabs everything from PCs as well as Macs so I'm thinking no outlook support claimed is likely bogus or hasn't been implemented yet. Flash/Java - that's just crap - no worry, it'll be there. No 3rd party software - that's also crap - as one poster pointed out in another thread Steve actually mentioned the 3rd party people VERBATIM when talking about the reasons for putting OS X on this thing.
I think it has to sync up through iTunes so iTunes can know where all your music is and keep the DRM in check. It's hilarious that you guys are all blaming Apple for this. Lest we not forget the RIAA said we aren't even allowed to have mp3 copies of our own CD's! We wouldn't even have the ability to put it on more than 1 device had Apple not pushed the music industry so hard. That and I have yet to run into any DRM problem - granted I don't own 6 iPods and 6 computers but the way some of you guys talk you MUST have at least this many right????
Do you honestly think Cingular will let a 3rd party Skype app appear?
I really don't think this will be an open-platform. We'll see at WWDC. If they don't roll out a OS X Mobile development platform there, then I think you can kiss the chances of that goodbye.
I really don't think this will be an open-platform. We'll see at WWDC. If they don't roll out a OS X Mobile development platform there, then I think you can kiss the chances of that goodbye.
I get you
Remember this though, if Apple let every Tom Dick and Harry develop for the Mac platform the chances are pretty high that you'd get the same old crap thats on the current PDA's let alone PC's.
Seriously have you seen the apps available for some of Palms models. They are awful.
Being discerning in who develops for you also determines whether your product remains to be successful. Apple controlling who develops for their platform will ensure continuity and quality. Thats why cover flow made it and thats why Apple products look and work great.
Remember this though, if Apple let every Tom Dick and Harry develop for the Mac platform the chances are pretty high that you'd get the same old crap thats on the current PDA's let alone PC's.
Seriously have you seen the apps available for some of Palms models. They are awful.
Being discerning in who develops for you also determines whether your product remains to be successful. Apple controlling who develops for their platform will ensure continuity and quality. Thats why cover flow made it and thats why Apple products look and work great.
There's rubbish 3rd party Mac apps as well as good ones. But its a breeding ground for innovative products. The Mac development community just seems to be more creative, more concerned with ease-of-use, and have a more versatile OS at their disposal to make that happen.
Cover Flow, and iTunes/SoundJam for that matter, wouldn't have been able to be taken inhouse and adopted by Apple if someone hadn't been able to create them in the first place.
iPhone sounds like it's going to be incredibly restrictive, similar to games on the iPod, which doesn't suit the potential of the platform in my opinion.
I still get you.
I could not agree more with you regarding Coverflow and Sound Jam, but I stick to what I said.
Control on what gets on your device is important hence the success of the iPod, it kept what was important without over complicating the platform.
I could not agree more with you regarding Coverflow and Sound Jam, but I stick to what I said.
Control on what gets on your device is important hence the success of the iPod, it kept what was important without over complicating the platform.
I think there's a 3rd way though. You could still let developers have the freedom to develop on it, while offering a selection of all that to the general public. Similar to how the Apple site tends to highlight the better shareware and 3rd party apps.
A lot of the general public aren't going to go to the trouble of going on versiontracker and downloading/installing something manually. Apple could just offer what they consider the best direct to the iPhone via the browser, while still letting other people play with whatever they want.
I think the restrictions are driven by Cingular and a desire to have yearly model/feature updates rather than a desire to protect the consumer personally.
I had the same thought... although, I don't claim to know anything about this kind of thing, so I did a quick search and it looks like Google Maps for existing cell phones use Java.
Can anyone actually shed any light.
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, sorry.
I still like the iPhone. I think people have to remember its aimed at consumers (that have the money) rather than business customers.
I wouldn't mind WiFi syncing though
I wouldn't mind WiFi syncing though