Other Pointless whines RE: Rumoured Rear Camera

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Ralfi, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. Ralfi macrumors 68030

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    Here we go again - another episode of social media whingers complaining about the proposed new rear camera array on the 2019 iPhones.

    We went through this with the iPhone X - "Oh please no Apple, don't go with the ugly oval camera"...& where are those complaints now?

    I swear iPhone users can be the most superficial ones out there, caring more about form over function.

    If the rumours are true, the squared off tri-lens will bring with it a much better camera.

    Who cares what it looks like. It's not going to impact your grip. & for 99% of the time, you look at the FRONT of the phone anyway...
     
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  3. igroeg macrumors regular

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    It all comes down to personal preference. I've never disliked the camera design on the X/XS, but I definitely don't like the 'leaks' suggesting the squared approach on the 2019 models. 'Who cares' is quite subjective. You don't, I do, etc.
     
  4. The Game 161 macrumors P6

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    If it takes amazing photos I could care less...
     
  5. eyoungren, Apr 26, 2019
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    You must be new here. I've been whining about the boil since the iPhone 6. ;)

    Those of us who buy iPhones based on aesthetic design and not specs care.

    As to grip, that's not relevant to aesthetics.

    As to not looking at the back, that's not a good enough reason. I'm not paying all that money just to ignore what I don't like.
     
  6. bpeeps macrumors 68030

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    Don't buy it.
     
  7. craigio85 macrumors 6502

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    The camera bump has never bothered me - even if I use my phone caseless, it’s not noticeable to me. Neither did the vertical camera setup on the X bother me.

    I do think the renders of what might be coming in September look ugly. But if the camera enhancement is compelling enough, I’d live with it.
     
  8. Blaze4G macrumors 65816

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    I agree. Its ugly but it's on the back so you won't see it much. However, defenders of the notch should stop complaining about people who don't like the notch...since we see it 99% of the time.
     
  9. now i see it macrumors 68040

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    Here we go again. Mac Rumors member complaining about Mac Rumors members
     
  10. EM2013 macrumors 68000

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    That’s pretty much with everything, why buy something ugly that you don’t like just cause it’s “better.”
     
  11. ARizz44 macrumors 6502a

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    I’m unaffected by others’ choices. Their reasons and their money. As for me, not since maybe the iPhone 4 has someone commented on the aesthetics of my phone. I personally don’t care at all what it looks like. What I have had happen are comments made regarding the quality of pictures and videos taken with my device. A square camera with a bump is the least of my concerns. Show me what results it was will produce. That’s what matters to me.
     
  12. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    LOL!!!

    That's EXACTLY what I've done!!!

    My current phone is a 6s+. I skipped the 7+, the 8+, the X, the XS and the XR.

    So, really…"Don't buy it" isn't a retort that works here because I've taken your advice long before you ever gave it to me.
    --- Post Merged, Apr 26, 2019 ---
    Right. I was going to go with a car analogy but apples to oranges maybe, IDK.
     
  13. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I was just commenting on this on a front page article that MacRumors tends to rehash about the camera aesthetics, which is I _don’t care_ about the aesthetics of a phone, it’s a smart phone, it’s a tool. I want functionality in terms of what the technology can deliver for my expectations, I never look at the back of my iPhone as it is, and I am willing to believe for those who use cases, they’re in a similar situation.

    I understand the iPhone does have a status symbol, but I really have zero interest in being concerned about the camera orientation on this next smart phone as long as the technology delivers. For those Who do care about the aesthetics of a smart phone, that’s their prerogative, but my opinion differs in favor of the technology.
     
  14. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    This is entirely my own specutlation, but I would say that the majority of users who are buying based on aesthetics have their needs met by the specs already.

    For myself, there is nothing I currently do on my iPhone that I couldn't still be doing on an iPhone 3GS running iOS 6. Nothing has changed for me, I have workarounds for any apps I truly need to use and quite frankly there is a much more powerful computer available to me (several actually) 24/7. I reach for one of those whenever I need something more intense than texting someone.

    But if specs were what drove me, I'd be in your camp.
     
  15. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Maybe. But if the technology is compelling enough, which no one really has no inclination what the triple lens camera can offer, I certainly wouldn’t let just the design of the back on iPhone make a decision if I want to upgrade or not. Frankly, that’s quite ridiculous. But I understand everybody has their different considerations when deciding to upgrade, but it doesn’t change the fact that a smart phone is a *tool and commodity*, it’s not something that should be considered a relic or a piece of jewelry like some like to treat it because of of a camera design choice.

    Either way, this happens _every_ single year, others say “Oh, I won’t buy this phone for XYZ design reasons”, then they turn around and they see what this new technology is capable of, then they change their tone of voice with their pre-orders at midnight.
     
  16. Hieveryone macrumors 68040

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    Am I the only one who actually like the mockups? If the next iPhone had that square-ish design on the back I think it looks great. Very futuristic.

    If the next iPhone has the same notch though, I would be dissapointed. Not because I mind the notch. But because I think there should be better ways, or at least they can come up with better ways, of implementing a camera in front and whatever else technology.
     
  17. Ralfi thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Oh hello. :D

    To clarify, the ‘bump’ isn’t what I’m on about here - more just the overreaction to the design of the camera array & how that should never be a deal breaker to any sane person ;)

    Surely, surely only <5% agree to Apple’s asking price with design over specs as their priorities? Don’t let me down, mankind. :eek:

    This is not about the bump.

    Care to chime in.

    How does the change of rear camera design from an oval to a square make for a worse user experience? & are people overreacting to it?

    True. Cars for example - design plays a big part in purchase decision.

    But if you compare the rear camera on a smartphone to a car, you’re looking at maybe turning down the car because of exhaust design? If the rest of the car was ideal, suited all your needs & was much better than the competition, would an exhaust design prevent you from buying?

    Yeah, but in your case, if it were flat, an oval or square camera wouldn’t bother you, so the actual ‘shape’ of the camera isn’t an issue right?

    (As mentioned, this isn’t about how it protrudes, but just the expanded design :))


    I guess the topic question could be summed up (in a less rant-esque way to my OP) by: are people placing too much emphasis on minor design elements of a smartphone? - Chassis, buttons, form factor - these are all parts of the phone we make contact with on a daily basis, but the rear camera is only something we use when needed. It’s not looked at, nor made contact with whilst not in use. Even when in use, you don’t know it’s there much of the time.

    Yes people can have their own views (I grant thee permissions! :p) but is this one regarding an unobtrusive element of the phone taking it too far?

    Ok, you’ve answered it here.

    Yeah, it’s just a few going crazy when they see a slight change to their iPhone. It’s a minority for sure. They’ll come around. :D
     
  18. eyoungren, Apr 26, 2019
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    I hear you. And I can only speak for myself. Whether I buy for aesthetics or not, my devices are indeed tools.

    But, as I've mentioned a few times in other threads, I use my tools for far longer than most people. During that time while everyone is getting the 2019 version of the screwdriver, I'm still using the 1908 version. It's a screwdriver and it works, which is why I don't have any problems staying with what I have until the screwdriver I really do want comes along.

    But yeah, it's still just a tool.
     
  19. naturalstar macrumors 6502a

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    Meh. Why not have both? Apple as a company puts an emphasis on design. It's one of the pillars they have stood on for as long as I can remember. That being one of their points of emphasis (and for a long time, a differentiator in the market), they have drawn - in part - a customer base where design does matter, just as much, if not more than the function.

    Plus, mockups and renders are all we have to go with at this point. As soon as it is released with the $1200+ price reveal at the keynote, the shift will be to topics bemoaning how Apple has lost its way and abandoning ship due to the outrageous price of Apple products. To me that argument is wearisome more than mocking Apple's (potential) odd design choices. If you don't like the price, don't buy it, but Apple being at a premium price is nothing new to me as someone who entered the walled garden only after years with Windows and other cellular devices. I knew that the price of entry was much more than I had ever spent before for similar devices. Apple has never touted themselves as affordable either - they tried a couple of times (5c and Xr) and they are still considered at a premium price. Oh, the SE was probably the closest hit after price reductions.

    By contrast, any odd design decisions made by Apple with the iPhone (subjective, I know) is out of character for a company who emphasizes design. It's that simple. Sure a buyer will either get used to it or just deal with it because Apple is the only seller of their device, but first reaction is telling. Just like when the notch was first seen in leaks, the block (if true) is being seen as a weird design decision by Apple even if the reason is for better function. I know I can't wait to hear Jony sell the camera block in his voice over come the keynote.
     
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  21. Shanghaichica macrumors G4

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    The Phone goes in a case and most of the time you are looking at the front not the back. As long as it takes good pictures it shouldn’t matter.
     
  22. igroeg macrumors regular

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    'It goes in a case'. It doesn't always go in a case. I for one love to carry my phones naked. Unfortunately, with phone prices only going up I'm forced to buy cases and screen protectors to shield my device. Ideally, I would never ever wear a case.
     
  23. Ralfi thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Ok that’s fine, but does the rumoured 2019 camera redesign make using the iPhone less appealing?
     
  24. ericwn macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, let’s whine about the whiners. That surely is time well spent.
     
  25. Ralfi thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Read on. Contribute. Cheer up. :D
     

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