'Pokémon Go Plus' Wearable Wristband's Resell Price Rises to Upwards of $250

[macduke]

You wouldn't know this because this is the first time I've mentioned it online - but I hate people who drink and smoke being out in public. I could literally take your argument and replace Pokemon Go with other things people like to do. But I realise it's no real big problem. I just let them get on with it.

Adults aren't allowed to enjoy fun games? You know Pokemon (the main series, I don't know about Go) has ridiculously deep gameplay intended for adults? It's the same reason why Disney, Pixar, Ghibli films are so successful, because they're not just for kids.

I guess I'm just sad that someone feels so angry at other people having harmless fun (unlike public drinking which can and does lead to all kind of problems - but "I realize not everyone is this way"). It makes me wonder.

The university I work at has a counseling center where students try to get help with mental health issues, grief counseling, and issues dealing with racist threats and remarks. These people playing Pokemon Go have been going into and running around in places like this, disturbing the peace, to the point where they've had to put up signs (that were actually kinda funny). But the bottom line is some people are being really inappropriate. Perhaps it's just magnified for me as I work at a university full of "not quite adults" who have suddenly become even more obnoxious. It's going to be even worse come August.

I agree about smoking and drinking in public. Again, college town, so it's worse here than some places. We've actually passed laws and policies here to address some of these issues. There is no smoking allowed anywhere on campus, and no smoking in restaurants and within a certain distance of them. It's fantastic. I feel like if you're the owner or leader of a certain business or institution, you should be able to add yourself to a block list for your geographic coordinates. People shouldn't be running around playing Pokemon Go at the Holocaust Museum and the 9/11 Memorial. Nor should they be playing it in a quiet, private counseling center where students are getting help with many deeply personal issues.
[doublepost=1468507926][/doublepost]

I agree that's incredibly annoying and inconsiderate behavior they're exhibiting in public. I'm really enjoying the game when I can get it to work and have fun talking about it with my husband and friends. But I was worried that some dingbats were going to behave in a way that gives this whole thing a bad rap. I don't blame you for being angry and frustrated. And I say this as someone who is wearing a Pikachu t-shirt as I type this.

Yeah, like I've said, I know not everyone is that way. I just replied to someone about the counseling center having to put up signs where I work if you want to read about that. I just keep hoping it dies down by August when all the students come back in full force. I can't imagine thousands of students standing around screaming at Pokemon while clogging up everything, lol. Maybe I've just had a bad experience with it, but these are college kids we're talking about. They don't have a lot of sense. For instance, I saw this guy all the time last year on one of those standing "hover boards", except it was like an extra large model and he was very tall towering over everyone. He would just power down the sidewalk on that thing, with people having to jump out of the way. He always had his arms crossed and looked super smug as he loomed over everyone. One time he was coming right at me and I was near the edge of the sidewalk on the proper side. I refused to move and kept walking on my side of the sidewalk (it was a wide sidewalk). I could tell he was going to clip my shoulder on purpose so I leaned into it (I'm a fairly stout guy) and caused him to go flying. A few weeks later they banned them across campus.

 

[0098386]

The university I work at has a counseling center where students try to get help with mental health issues, grief counseling, and issues dealing with racist threats and remarks. These people playing Pokemon Go have been going into and running around in places like this, disturbing the peace, to the point where they've had to put up signs (that were actually kinda funny). But the bottom line is some people are being really inappropriate. Perhaps it's just magnified for me as I work at a university full of "not quite adults" who have suddenly become even more obnoxious. It's going to be even worse come August.

Then your problem is with certain students, not the game or anything beyond that. I don't like people who play music on their phone on public transport but I'm not going to be angry at the iOS music app or people who enjoy it (referring back to the tone of your first post).

 

[5105973]

Then your problem is with certain students, not the game or anything beyond that. I don't like people who play music on their phone on public transport but I'm not going to be angry at the iOS music app or people who enjoy it (referring back to the tone of your first post).

Well to a certain extent MacDuke and a growing number of people and businesses are having a problem with the game itself because they're losing control of their businesses or properties to it. As far as I know there is no way to exclude any particular area from showing up in the game and game players won't necessarily know from following the game that their presence is going to be inherently disruptive even if they behave decently.

I can say some moms are not too thrilled with the increased traffic of strange adult men coming through areas normally frequented only by parents and small children. It's of course a public area so we have to accept it but it can be unnerving. Some of these guys are a bit odd and when you're used to knowing everyone at certain parks and all of these strangers show up it is getting kind of creepy.

Private property is being infringed on, too. I believe I've already mentioned my experience of that.

MacDuke mentioned the university environment. Well my alma mater reported that a couple of Pokemon Go players were robbed allegedly at gunpoint in front of a very centrally located building. I am quite familiar with that building, having had many classes there.

I don't mean to be a downer on this game. It's been a lot of fun, fresh air and exercise and socializing for a lot of people. It's brought many people together in positive ways.

It's here and we will just have to deal with it.

 

[macduke]

Then your problem is with certain students, not the game or anything beyond that. I don't like people who play music on their phone on public transport but I'm not going to be angry at the iOS music app or people who enjoy it (referring back to the tone of your first post).

Yep. I've never personally enjoyed Pokemon and that probably shows but I'd have a problem with any app like this that causes people to drive recklessly, block up sidewalks, or violate the peace. Look up a concept video on YouTube called "hyper reality." I'm worried that is coming. Being outside without actually being outside.

 

[0098386]

Yep. I've never personally enjoyed Pokemon and that probably shows but I'd have a problem with any app like this that causes people to drive recklessly, block up sidewalks, or violate the peace. Look up a concept video on YouTube called "hyper reality." I'm worried that is coming. Being outside without actually being outside.

Then once again your problem is with people misusing the app.

I guess I just don't get it. I've used the app twice now and haven't caused a problem to others, nor have my friends or people I've seen playing it. Could it be a cultural thing, perhaps something with behaviour in America or wherever you're from? I've heard that drivers in the US can be quite extreme.
[doublepost=1468717296][/doublepost]

Well to a certain extent MacDuke and a growing number of people and businesses are having a problem with the game itself because they're losing control of their businesses or properties to it. As far as I know there is no way to exclude any particular area from showing up in the game and game players won't necessarily know from following the game that their presence is going to be inherently disruptive even if they behave decently.

I can say some moms are not too thrilled with the increased traffic of strange adult men coming through areas normally frequented only by parents and small children. It's of course a public area so we have to accept it but it can be unnerving. Some of these guys are a bit odd and when you're used to knowing everyone at certain parks and all of these strangers show up it is getting kind of creepy.

Private property is being infringed on, too. I believe I've already mentioned my experience of that.

MacDuke mentioned the university environment. Well my alma mater reported that a couple of Pokemon Go players were robbed allegedly at gunpoint in front of a very centrally located building. I am quite familiar with that building, having had many classes there.

I don't mean to be a downer on this game. It's been a lot of fun, fresh air and exercise and socializing for a lot of people. It's brought many people together in positive ways.

It's here and we will just have to deal with it.

How awfully ableist of you, criticising people because they act strange? I'm neurotypical but I know people really into Pokemon Go on the autistic spectrum, I guess you'd consider them strange too. And maybe it's a US attitude thing, because of my friends playing Go here in the UK none have gotten in the way of others, or caused any of these problems I'm hearing from some people.

I guess I'm just not seeing the problems here, who knows maybe "moms" aren't the only people in your country?

And I must apologise for my attitude, I guess hearing people playing mobile games outdoors being described as weird just sets the tone for the rest of the discussion.

 

[5105973]

Then once again your problem is with people misusing the app.

I guess I just don't get it. I've used the app twice now and haven't caused a problem to others, nor have my friends or people I've seen playing it. Could it be a cultural thing, perhaps something with behaviour in America or wherever you're from? I've heard that drivers in the US can be quite extreme.
[doublepost=1468717296][/doublepost]
How awfully ableist of you, criticising people because they act strange? I'm neurotypical but I know people really into Pokemon Go on the autistic spectrum, I guess you'd consider them strange too. And maybe it's a US attitude thing, because of my friends playing Go here in the UK none have gotten in the way of others, or caused any of these problems I'm hearing from some people.

I guess I'm just not seeing the problems here, who knows maybe "moms" aren't the only people in your country?

And I must apologise for my attitude, I guess hearing people playing mobile games outdoors being described as weird just sets the tone for the rest of the discussion.

Having strange adult men you don't know and have never seen before at a once isolated neighborhood park standing around staring at your little kids, some of whom have autism and are friendly to strangers at their own risk, is always going to be unnerving for a parent. I'm not going to be cornered into a politically correct apology for stating a fact that's true due to human and animal instinct to protect ones young. Some of these people you can tell what they are doing, that is playing a game. Others, it's not clear. At any rate the game has increased foot traffic of people into unfamiliar areas. It's going to lead to some awkwardness and a feeling of being invaded to the locals.

 

[0098386]

Servers are still not working for me or my partner. But it's fine, I can wait! Just walking through town now and seeing groups of kids, adults, of all different 'groups' get together and hanging out is so awesome to see. I never thought a daft video game would be able to do that. Walked past a bunch of middle aged men in suits at a bank (Co-op Insurance for all you Mancunians out there) talking about what Pokemon they'd caught over lunch, and then a bunch of teenages in Picaddily Gardens doing the exact same thing. Lovely days. I really hope these newcomers to the series play through some of the original titles.

Having strange adult men you don't know and have never seen before at a once isolated neighborhood park standing around staring at your little kids, some of whom have autism and are friendly to strangers at their own risk, is always going to be unnerving for a parent. I'm not going to be cornered into a politically correct apology for stating a fact that's true due to human and animal instinct to protect ones young. Some of these people you can tell what they are doing, that is playing a game. Others, it's not clear. At any rate the game has increased foot traffic of people into unfamiliar areas. It's going to lead to some awkwardness and a feeling of being invaded to the locals.

Then that's your hang up and I hope that you will be able to overcome it. Imagine if your kids develop autism and mothers in the future criticise them for having harmless fun. That'd be an interesting situation.

Bonus points for using "politcally correct", I've got that autocorrected to mean "I don't want to be nice". I usually find that's the case at least.

 

[5105973]

Servers are still not working for me or my partner. But it's fine, I can wait! Just walking through town now and seeing groups of kids, adults, of all different 'groups' get together and hanging out is so awesome to see. I never thought a daft video game would be able to do that. Walked past a bunch of middle aged men in suits at a bank (Co-op Insurance for all you Mancunians out there) talking about what Pokemon they'd caught over lunch, and then a bunch of teenages in Picaddily Gardens doing the exact same thing. Lovely days. I really hope these newcomers to the series play through some of the original titles.


Then that's your hang up and I hope that you will be able to overcome it. Imagine if your kids develop autism and mothers in the future criticise them for having harmless fun. That'd be an interesting situation.

Bonus points for using "politcally correct", I've got that autocorrected to mean "I don't want to be nice". I usually find that's the case at least.

Why do you insist on misinterpreting what I very clearly stated, to fit your own very narrowly defined judgement of my expression of parental concern --also expressed by other parents and related to this forum by me, actually.

I already quite clearly stated that there are already children with autism present in the group of children described at the park, one being the son of my friend Dani, by the way. Dani isn't her usual name but I'm not going to give real names on a public forum. Anyway her son is a very outgoing child of 13, who can not act upon the concept of "stranger danger" and therefore his parents experience heightened anxiety in this situation of the sudden influx of strangers to the park. The other younger child I don't know as well but he seems to be the opposite and overwhelmed easily by the additional crowds of unfamiliar faces in what had been his normally defined environment. The kids who have been brought up to be wary of strangers aren't exactly at ease with this turn of events, either. But it IS a public park. We are all aware of that. Nobody is harassing the strangers. But last time I checked there is no thought police in our country so we are free to not like it.

When I said some of these strangers acted in a strange and unnerving manner why do you persist in assuming I'm describing behavior that could fall within that of an autism spectrum disorder or something similar? I'm not even sure all of these strangers were even there to catch Pokemon. We had wondered if they were drawn there to cause trouble for those clearly playing the game but backed off the idea of harassing the Pokemon players due to the presence of so many watchful eyes. All we do know is that this influx of strangers is somehow related to the game as it is a new thing and there is nothing else to draw people to what are essentially isolated "tot lots".

Are you that hellbent on denying that a game you love so much could have negative repercussions, that you feel compelled to cast me in a negative and completely false light, just because I dared to render criticism of the repercussions of behavior surrounding the game? I'm not even attacking the game itself. Which I also happen to play by the way, when I can do so without getting in anyone's way or causing any disturbance.

And yes, I will use the term "politically correct" if you're going to throw the term "ableist" at ME, when you don't even know me or what challenges I might be dealing with of my own. Especially when you used that term to willfully miscast what I said to fit whatever scenario you're building up against people who don't fall into lockstep with your own perceptions.

 

[0098386]

Why do you insist on misinterpreting what I very clearly stated, to fit your own very narrowly defined judgement of my expression of parental concern --also expressed by other parents and related to this forum by me, actually.

I already quite clearly stated that there are already children with autism present in the group of children described at the park, one being the son of my friend Dani, by the way. Dani isn't her usual name but I'm not going to give real names on a public forum. Anyway her son is a very outgoing child of 13, who can not act upon the concept of "stranger danger" and therefore his parents experience heightened anxiety in this situation of the sudden influx of strangers to the park. The other younger child I don't know as well but he seems to be the opposite and overwhelmed easily by the additional crowds of unfamiliar faces in what had been his normally defined environment. The kids who have been brought up to be wary of strangers aren't exactly at ease with this turn of events, either. But it IS a public park. We are all aware of that. Nobody is harassing the strangers. But last time I checked there is no thought police in our country so we are free to not like it.

When I said some of these strangers acted in a strange and unnerving manner why do you persist in assuming I'm describing behavior that could fall within that of an autism spectrum disorder or something similar? I'm not even sure all of these strangers were even there to catch Pokemon. We had wondered if they were drawn there to cause trouble for those clearly playing the game but backed off the idea of harassing the Pokemon players due to the presence of so many watchful eyes. All we do know is that this influx of strangers is somehow related to the game as it is a new thing and there is nothing else to draw people to what are essentially isolated "tot lots".

Are you that hellbent on denying that a game you love so much could have negative repercussions, that you feel compelled to cast me in a negative and completely false light, just because I dared to render criticism of the repercussions of behavior surrounding the game? I'm not even attacking the game itself. Which I also happen to play by the way, when I can do so without getting in anyone's way or causing any disturbance.

And yes, I will use the term "politically correct" if you're going to throw the term "ableist" at ME, when you don't even know me or what challenges I might be dealing with of my own. Especially when you used that term to willfully miscast what I said to fit whatever scenario you're building up against people who don't fall into lockstep with your own perceptions.

When you use the term "strange adult men" and "these strangers show up it is getting kind of creepy" it's a shorthand, internet vernacular for people who are neuro-atypical. Maybe you weren't aware of how you came across or the tone you projected that but who knows. I certainly see it used a lot as a way of identifying neuro-atypical individuals in a subtle way. And I just know that I have no time for bigots against neuro-atypicals, hence the term 'ablelist'. But maybe that's just me not being politically correct.

"a game you love so much", not quite. I enjoy it but I'm happier playing the original games. I love what it's doing though, I love that people are getting out the house, creating groups, having fun in ways they might not have been motivated to do before. I think it's outstanding what they've done.

Just an aside at this point, but I hope that the parents at these parks now inundated with creepy gamers are watching their kids and not just playing with their phones. I live behind a park and see that happen a lot.

 

[5105973]

I'm turning 50 in a few weeks. All my life "strange" in the context I used meant "unknown" as in unfamiliar people. I've never even heard the term neuro-atypical until this conversation. Dani has mentioned that the terms used to describe people with autism are ever evolving to encompass people with a broader range of sensory processing differences. But I'm out of touch with both the legitimate terms and any insulting internet vernacular.

"Strangers showing up is getting kind of creepy" means: men (or women for that matter) unknown to the people at the park showing up, at times scrutinizing the children instead of seeming engaged in a game, makes parents on their guard and nervous. Because it often can lead to an abduction or other form of child endangerment--it's something parents see on the news or local alerts all the time. Also where we live we have gang activity to be aware of and gatherings of unknown people can and have turned into opportunities for armed robbery or fights. And yes, the parents do watch the children and chat with each other. It's a social time.

At any rate I'm not used to having to scrutinize everything I say for a possible "charged meaning" beyond what is clearly stated. So it's been an interesting experience to see how my words have been interpreted to something extremely different from what I thought was obviously intended.

In my own journey through life I've come to realize usually a word is just a word and it serves little to no purpose dissecting each one looking for an insult. Especially when enough blatant intentional attempts at disrespecting people are out there to be battled.

This is something I've learned in fifty years of being on the receiving end of very intentional bigotry myself as a racially mixed female. I've learned it is a waste of my energy to get riled up over conversation that could be construed to be insulting to my gender or race but only if I make a concerted effort to assign other meanings to words and attribute hidden motives to the speaker.

As for MY views on neuro-atypical people, one of my first friends in my new school was another new student who, in retrospect, likely had a form of autism. In those days the general public was not aware of autism so I never heard the term applied to him. He never spoke and never interacted with anyone else, but for some reason grabbed me to run with him the moment he saw me at recess and we played happily like any other kids, except for our lack of speaking. A mixed race person in those days often had difficulty making friends, so this boy and his open willingness to be my friend made him precious to me. But back then, teachers were not willing to deal with the challenges of educating such a student who was not able to be communicated with in a conventional way. He was taken away and losing his friendship was very painful. So I assure you I never intend any insult to people who are "neuro-atypical".
[doublepost=1468931968][/doublepost]Now having said all that, are the server problems plaguing this game improving at all? I seem to be finding it easier to catch Pokemon now but the game still goes dead at odd times.