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Police Seize Gizmodo Editor's Computers and Other Property Related to Lost Next-Generation iPhone
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I agree 110%.
Giz did this pretty shaddy, but they did return it to apple.
They could have had their "exclusive" way easier (and legally).
I dunno. The more I think about this.... The more I see this possibly being a case. It should be an interesting story to say the least!
I know it probably doesn't speak well about me as a person, but I will be honest -- I would like Apple and the legal machine to grind Gizmodo into paste and spread that paste on a microchip and serve it at Macworld. I know many more engineers than "journalists" and this whole thing with the phone has just been in my craw since I heard about it because of what it meant for them.
Logic dictates the sole reason for this raid and no Jason chen arrest is to sieze the computers to search for the "source" of the contact who sold gizmodo the iPhone prototype.
And yes apple is for sure behind this so they can set an example for corporate trade secret info trafficking. If the us govt loss their intergalactic laser attack satellite weapon you bet they would search and destroy the ones who found it.
And yes apple is for sure behind this so they can set an example for corporate trade secret info trafficking. If the us govt loss their intergalactic laser attack satellite weapon you bet they would search and destroy the ones who found it.
Oh, I think the San Mateo County Sheriff's Department won't be staying up nights worried about law suites; they'll be too busy preparing a suite for two criminals--the thief and the receiver of stolen goods.
I really want to be there when the COO of Gizmodo testifies that his strong principled belief in protecting the sacred privacy of others forbids his disclosure of the name of the thief who sold his company the phone they took apart, as he is committed to the privacy rights of all citizens....well, except for those who innocently misplace test versions of forthcoming iPhones, of course.
In any case, it is not unlikely that the identity of the thief is contained in the data retrieved pursuant to the service of the search warrant.
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ROFL!
I found one on the floor of a bar. Tis yours for $5000.
The Samurai said:
ROFL!
I found one on the floor of a bar. Tis yours for $5000.
Ah, the Every Man For Himself code of law. I don't think they practice that one around here, not even in California.
As do the counterfits and the articles from Gizmodo's competitors showing a very similar phone that was claimed to be a counterfit.
Don't take my post out of context though, I believe Gizmodo was wrong in this.
In what way is wildly profiting off of misplaced property not "bad intentions." "Finders keepers" does not apply in the real world.
the thing that i dont understand is the whole situation. ill give an example:
say u buy a nice statue for ur garden from ur local shop. and then u get a knock on ur door a week later, its the police they say that statue is a artifact that was on the black market. they question u and u say o i bought it from this guy. the guy u bought it from dug it out of the ground in Jerusalem. the artifact belongs to the country it was founded. so the guy who illegally dug the artifact up and sold it goes to jail. u on the other hand wont u will only be required to give the item back then u will got to jail if u dont. so the only investigation should be if the guy u got it from got it legally, if he did then its u can keep it.
so in the case of the lost iphone the only investigation should be if the guy who found it got it because he stole it or actually waited 24 hrs and waited for the guy to pick it up. since the iphone was not on the open market the guy who found it might not of known it was a proto type, we have no proof if he did or didn't. even if he called apple and the costumer service or a number on the site and did not find help then it is legally his. the bar could verify if he left it there and no one picked it up and apples call records can prove if he called. one more thing if he turned into the police it is most unlikely apple would of found it unless the apple employee went to the police, witch can also be confirmed ( and again would have to wait 24 hrs i think).
in conclusion all thees aspects should be checked out, and i feel that the seizing of gizmodos editors computers are an unnecessary act. they do have the right to investigate but they should go through the aspects of the case i mentioned before taking it this far.
say u buy a nice statue for ur garden from ur local shop. and then u get a knock on ur door a week later, its the police they say that statue is a artifact that was on the black market. they question u and u say o i bought it from this guy. the guy u bought it from dug it out of the ground in Jerusalem. the artifact belongs to the country it was founded. so the guy who illegally dug the artifact up and sold it goes to jail. u on the other hand wont u will only be required to give the item back then u will got to jail if u dont. so the only investigation should be if the guy u got it from got it legally, if he did then its u can keep it.
so in the case of the lost iphone the only investigation should be if the guy who found it got it because he stole it or actually waited 24 hrs and waited for the guy to pick it up. since the iphone was not on the open market the guy who found it might not of known it was a proto type, we have no proof if he did or didn't. even if he called apple and the costumer service or a number on the site and did not find help then it is legally his. the bar could verify if he left it there and no one picked it up and apples call records can prove if he called. one more thing if he turned into the police it is most unlikely apple would of found it unless the apple employee went to the police, witch can also be confirmed ( and again would have to wait 24 hrs i think).
in conclusion all thees aspects should be checked out, and i feel that the seizing of gizmodos editors computers are an unnecessary act. they do have the right to investigate but they should go through the aspects of the case i mentioned before taking it this far.
There is little doubt that Apple pressed for this warrant.
It is enough to make me stop buying their products if this is going to be their tactics. An employee lost a phone, big deal, this is so far over the top it's crazy.
Today we already heard that Apple is telling some other guy he has "exceeded his life time limit on iPads" and now this crap....
**** you Apple... and I'm a FAN ! Just imagine the millage from people that hate your products!!!
Idiots.
DA's decision, not Apple's
Please let me know which bar you tend to patronize. I'd like to wait for you to have a couple of drinks and then I'll steal your car and sell it. Because, you know, you'll totally deserve it.
Um, after tearing it apart and posting photos of it for the world to see?
Spare us the "Giz did the right thing" nonsense.
There is little doubt that Apple pressed for this warrant.
It is enough to make me stop buying their products if this is going to be their tactics. An employee lost a phone, big deal, this is so far over the top it's crazy.
Today we already heard that Apple is telling some other guy he has "exceeded his life time limit on iPads" and now this crap....
**** you Apple... and I'm a FAN ! Just imagine the millage from people that hate your products!!!
Idiots.
If it were as simple as an employee losing a phone we likely never would have heard of it...
Go Get Em
Gizmodo deserves what they get here. Laws are there for a reason, and they should be followed.
This has a huge implication on the ability of a company to protect their IP.
Gizmodo deserves what they get here. Laws are there for a reason, and they should be followed.
This has a huge implication on the ability of a company to protect their IP.
You and everyone else are acting like Gizmodo definitely knew that the phone was stolen at the time of payment, and not lost. How can you possibly state this as fact? After more information has come to light, it certainly looks like the individual who found the phone didn't follow due diligence in tracking down the owner. But at the time of payment, how could Gizmodo know this, and why should they be responsible to make sure? That's not how our legal system works.
If you buy a used car, do you get charged with a felony if the seller stole the car? Only if you knew it was stolen to begin with. And while Gizmodo may have had a suspicion, it will be nearly impossible to prove that they knew it was stolen at the time of purchase.
The gang at Engadget...
...must be peeing themselves silly with glee.
I would be so very tickled if Gizmodo is ruined by all of this.
...must be peeing themselves silly with glee.
I would be so very tickled if Gizmodo is ruined by all of this.
There is little doubt that Apple pressed for this warrant.
It is enough to make me stop buying their products if this is going to be their tactics. An employee lost a phone, big deal, this is so far over the top it's crazy.
Today we already heard that Apple is telling some other guy he has "exceeded his life time limit on iPads" and now this crap....
**** you Apple... and I'm a FAN ! Just imagine the millage from people that hate your products!!!
Idiots.
NEWSFLASH: Criminal investigations are conducted by the governing public authority and Apple has nothing to do with this.