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Police Seize Gizmodo Editor's Computers and Other Property Related to Lost Next-Generation iPhone
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Just as watergate was dumb, nixon should have been allowed to do what ever he wanted, this is what they do, but hey fear the apple its out to get you.
It slightly Apple's fault. I wouldn't be giving a 27 year old person a phone. My older bro is 27, and he acts like an adult around me, but who knows what his own real like with friends and gf are like.
I wouldn't give any low class engineer something important.
In this case, Gizmodo knew it wasn't this guy's to sell, whereas you didn't know the statue was hot.
They ran a couple of checks before buying it (USB ID, iTunes connect, etc.) and then bought it. They knew it was an Apple prototype (see: $5000), and they also knew this guy wasn't an Apple representative. Therefore, they should have known that he couldn't legally sell it, and thus were engaging in trafficking of stolen goods.
First, Watergate tapes weren't leaked to the press. You're thinking of Pentagon Papers.
Second, it's absurd for you to imply that it's all or nothing, that you support everything a journalist does you're in favor of tyranny. Nonsense.
If this leads to charges against Gizmodo, it all boils down to Gizmodo PAYING for a stolen device. It's the exchange of money to a thief that carried them over the line. Had they done just what Engadget did and publish photos and details given to them without anything in return, there's be no police investigation into theft and Gizmodo would stand on the same ground of journalistic freedom as the NYT did. But the man-children who run Gizmodo couldn't resist and decided to pay a thief for stolen goods. The week since has been filled with their revisions, retractions, altering of details and timelines, all in an effort to absolve them of criminal liability. Excep the problem is they posted all the stuff on the web so it's plain to see how their story mutated repeatedly.
Engadget won't get in trouble, even though they were the first to publish photos of the device, because they didn't pay for it. Gizmodo brought this on themselves and it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of wannabe loser fratboys.
you think the state read gizmodo and went: OK BOYS GATHER UP THE TROOPS, THIS HACKER LEAKED THE IPHONE PROTOTYPE TO THE PUBLIC, LETS GO GET THEM. this didn't happen without apples legal team pulling strings, and the search according to what i've read from the actual FACTUAL warrant, was completely illegal.
It's called a "reasonable person" standard. In this case the prosecution will argue that a reasonable person would have suspected the seller didn't have a legal right to sell that phone. IMO they'll be right, too. If this doesn't end in a plea deal, I expect convictions.
Just as watergate was dumb, nixon should have been allowed to do what ever he wanted, this is what they do, but hey fear the apple its out to get you.
Yes, all of us who find prototype iPhones and sell them for large profit should fear Apple. The rest of us are OK.
You must have not read the part where they said they didn't wanna damage the phone..
And the traffic this builds on the gizmodo website is all worth it.
Someone who runs a business? It's called taking a chance. They had a choice, if it was fake they lost 5k, if it was real they would make more.
And they couldn't know for SURE that it was real before actually seeing the hardware and such.
Yeah, he or she could argue that. He or she would lose. But he or she could argue that. There's no rule against specifying an entire residence.
Your new to this, there has to be complaint now shut up and top trying to be an attorney; apple employee.
And any judge with an ounce of common sense would say you're wrong.
The finder didn't follow any standard protocol (see "common sense") nor, unfortunately, the law in his "attempts" at returning the phone to its rightful owner. He knew the owner's name - yet made no attempt to contact the owner directly. He didn't report it to the bar owner. He didn't report it to the police. He called Apple Customer Service
confused and then shopped it around.Honest effort? Give me a break.
oh I agree. They could have done ALOT more. But did they do enough to avoid any legal issues? That is TBD.
This could get interesting.
Apple should just be happy giz got this, and not HTC or Moto!
Because they are dicks.
Oh, and for you rabid anti-Apple folks, the search warrant is NOT APPLE'S CALL.
Stop blaming Apple for Gizmodo's stupidity!
What i find humorous is that if this happened to Google or another company then people wouldn't be against the issue of theft. But because it's apple people just think it should be "Okay".
I Find double standards apply when it come's to the Apple haters.
I Find double standards apply when it come's to the Apple haters.
jeezo this is getting crazier and crazier.
if i ever happen to see any type of device with an apple logo on it that hasn't been released for sale to the general public, or that simply isnt mine then i'd run for my life, change my name, grow a beard, and move to switzerland and live in the mountains
jkjk, of course! im not a thief, i'd do what i could to return it to its owner.
if i ever happen to see any type of device with an apple logo on it that hasn't been released for sale to the general public, or that simply isnt mine then i'd run for my life, change my name, grow a beard, and move to switzerland and live in the mountains
jkjk, of course! im not a thief, i'd do what i could to return it to its owner.
Good. Chen and Gizmodo are getting what they deserve. Every Apple follower knows that Apple values its secrecy. In fact that secrecy is worth millions in free press and buzz leading up to a launch. And until those new devices go on sale, they are the property of Apple. When Chen and Gizmodo acquired the device, they knew they were breaking the law. They could have done the right thing and just returned the device, and they would have been respected by Apple.
But their desire for a "scoop" is going to cost them dearly as it should.
The worst part is that this wasn't just some new device, it was also the personal information of Gray Powell. They caused him untold anguish by not simply doing the right thing. If you are going to feel sorry, feel sorry for the real victims here, Apple and Gray Powell.
Karma is a bitch Jason.
But their desire for a "scoop" is going to cost them dearly as it should.
The worst part is that this wasn't just some new device, it was also the personal information of Gray Powell. They caused him untold anguish by not simply doing the right thing. If you are going to feel sorry, feel sorry for the real victims here, Apple and Gray Powell.
Karma is a bitch Jason.
it isn't up to me, it's called the constitution. journalists are allowed to report on things. and police aren't allowed to seize their belongings because of it. the end. nothing will come of this other than an apology from the police department to the editor.
Yep, and to make extra sure, let's take some pictures of the phone and publish them
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They still disassembled the prototype...... They may not have completely uncover all the parts, but they still exposed trade secrets by opening it up.......
