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Police Seize Gizmodo Editor's Computers and Other Property Related to Lost Next-Generation iPhone
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Just curious...did you think that would lead to a job someday?
They did. "They" being the judge that signed the warrant, and the warrant was probably asked for by the DA.
It's not "draconian." It's a police investigation into a stolen item that has millions of dollars surrounding it.
Link to where the state that they are scratching their heads wondering about the legalities?
This, nor the EFF, will protect a journalist from committing a crime. Jason committed a crime when he bought the device, no law will protect him as a journalist from, even through his own admission, consequences of his actions.
It was only a matter of time before this stolen iPhone story turned into a manifesto on George W. Bush...
The EFF is just one legal opinion. And it's funny how that works. In every court case, there's at least two legal opinions. But one of them ends up losing the argument.
Now, please read the following carefully. I'll type slowly for you....
There have already been other legal opinions that the California Shield law does NOT apply if the police are looking for evidence of a crime committed by the journalist.
Which opinion is going to prevail? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
Mark
So glad you haven't resorted to hyperbole or exaggeration, let along misinformation.
I am happy I disturbed you!
Disturbance is good thing - it can often shake you up a bit and if you are lucky you might even wake up and see the real world around you!
No need to thank me -
This!
I guarantee you if I lost my cell phone and someone sold it to someone, and I traced it with my mobileme service... this would not happened.
It was only a matter of time before this stolen iPhone story turned into a manifesto on George W. Bush...
Yeah, I actually thought the birthers or tea partiers would be appropriating the fury before the Bush bashers. Although it's hard to keep track of who's bashing their keyboard hardest right now
But blaming Bush is so last year.
You better not cross Apple, because they will send the Strike Team over with guns to extract compliance.
And I will slowly repeat as well...
If there are few legal opinions involved - why didn't they come to unified conclusion BEFORE allowing or disallowing this raid!?!?
Why raid was made FIRST before various legal opinions were tuned onto same frequency - be that pro raid or against it!?!?!
Perhaps I am not sure how law in California works but to me it seams like it is based on casino like mechanics... Lets do something (break into guys house, get his computers and make mess) and then wonder if thing we just did is legal or not!?!?!
I mean lol...
I am happy I disturbed you!
Disturbance is good thing - it can often shake you up a bit and if you are lucky you might even wake up and see the real world around you!
No need to thank me -
So, when you grown up you can get the laws changed where you live. Until then you have to live by the law or face the consequences. Giz is learning about those consequences now.
Happened for my friend. He tracked his iPhone via mobile me and the cops arrested the guy that had his iPhone. So it DOES happen for the little guy too.
Sorry, but WRONG! According to Gizmodo's STORY, the guy had it for nearly 4 WEEKS before he sold it. He ALREADY knew the name of the person it belonged to. He discovered Gray Powell's name and information and found his Facebook page. The thief had this information within the first 12 hours of having possession of the phone (because the phone was reportedly wiped by the morning). The thief could have EASILY contacted Gray Powell through Facebook to return the phone.
So... the minute the thief decided to hang onto the phone instead of returning it to its rightful owner, THAT'S the moment it became stolen PER CALIFORNIA LAW.
Gizmodo was so excited to smear Gray Powell that they handed proof of the thief's guilt to the authorities. Gizmodo screwed over the thief in the process. But you know their motto... "Anything for the story!"
I believe a jury would take that to mean, even breaking the law.
Mark
The war was poorly thought out, but childish misstatements of fact don't do anything for your argument, there or here. The US did not burn the whole country down, the X number of people killed (no one really knows) are far more likely to have died by sectarian militias and terrorists than by military action, and we haven't stolen their oil--we have enough problems using our own money trying to keep the system operating so their democratically elected government has some income. Every barrel has been paid for.
You better not cross Apple, because they will send the Strike Team over with guns to extract compliance.
LOL
This in fact should be Valve's version of CSS for Mac!
EDIT:
Perhaps it is CSS for Mac! I think you should watch your doors and police for leaking this shot out
That photo was funny at least.
Full of Fail, you keep posting your garbage even though you were proven wrong in other thread. Trying in here now too?
Apple isn't behind this, Giz brought it on themselves when they posted everything online. They posted enough incriminating evidence that Apple does not need to get involved.
So, again, show me where the judge or the DA are wondering if they did anything wrong? So far it's just the EFF challenging the legality of the S&S. The judge and DA are fully compliant within the law and that's how they responded back to the EFF.
And I guarantee you that Gray Powell could not do that. Independent developers have already explained that "Find my iPhone" is DISABLED in the beta versions of iPhone OS 4.0.
Mark
Based on a report by TechCrunch, it appears the San Mateo County District Attorney's Office is acknowledging that the shield protection laws may still be valid. The investigation has reported to have come to a pause as they reevaluate whether or not those shield laws do apply in this situation.
Perhaps I am misreading this!?!?
You think you need to take a vote or something? They filled out the paperwork, made their case with the judge, and the judge issued the warrant.
Proof? Yeah I don't have to. If you don't want to take my word for it, that's your choice.
Lets turn the tables...
Prove the prototype wasn't stolen....
I've already proven that it was.
Then why entire investigation is on pause due to question marks over legality of the raid!?!?!
First, there was no "raid." Second, there are reports contradicting the "on pause" report. Third, again, the law does not require that the DA go ask everyone's opinion prior to going to a judge. The judge is the arbiter, and it's his job to take the factors into account and to decide whether or not the warrant comports with the Fourth Amendment and any other relevant Constitutional requirements.
Nice find, and a good read. I also like how you omit other parts of that very blog.
First lets touch on your main point:
Yes they say they are going to verify their claim of shield protection prior to going through his stuff. Want to know why? If they went through his stuff and found incriminating evidence and it was deemed that he was afforded protection under the shield law, anything they found would be in-admissable in court.
So they want to double check to make sure things are right. The shield law does not protect a blogger or journalist when they commit the crime, only from divulging sources.
Let's go on shall we...
Look at the bolded parts, now you still claim it's big bad Apple and that no crime was committed...
The 'real' golden rule is that he who has the gold makes the rules; and Apple has the gold and therefore is calling the shots. This is an Apple ordered takedown, simple as that. They may claim it was part of an investigation or that it is out of their hands; but this is simply not how life works. Money buys access and clout, it has for millennium, and Apple has a lot of it. Apple is sending a message to anyone who dares cross them, they will use their power and influence to make your life a living hell.
It would be nice if we were the same under the eyes of the law, but we are not.