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Police Seize Gizmodo Editor's Computers and Other Property Related to Lost Next-Generation iPhone

The way I see it this whole situation is like someone possibly wrongfully acquiring a new bike. The person who acquired this bike tried to return it to the owner but the owner was not at their home. So gizmodo says, hey the owner will never get their bike back if you have it. I will pay you $5000 to temporarily hold it, take some pictures, take the wheel off then but them back on, and then hand it over to the owner when they ask for it back. Then when apple asks for their bike and then gizmodo promptly gives it back.

The reason I say this is I fell the person who found it is far more in the wrong then gizmodo. Gizmodo said from the beginning that they would give it back to the owner, who would of never gotten it back if it was not for gizmodo. Also , what evidence could they be looking for at Jason's house.
 
daxomni said:
Agreed. Revelation78 has shown time and again that he is not to be taken seriously on this topic.
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Right... prove it. I have cited California law for everything I have stated, so you shouldn't take the law seriously? Now if I was throwing a tantrum and crying fold over Apple being a big bad bully - you'd then take me seriously?

WOW! Words can't describe how sorry I am that your parents brought you into this world.
 
pastparticiple said:
Really? Why do so many people post such personal insults here? Are you really that incapable of being disagreed with?

Amazing.
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past, I've seen more insults out of one of your posts than the entire thread combined. Mabe you should practice what you preach...

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, I'm most definitely not always right. However I have a disdain for some of the idiots that have posted their rediculous BS on this site.
 
Revelation78 said:
past, I've seen more insults out of one of your posts than the entire thread combined. Mabe you should practice what you preach...

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, I'm most definitely not always right. However I have a disdain for some of the idiots that have posted their rediculous BS on this site.
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Um....pretty sure I have not wished death or for someone to have never been born because I don't like what they said in an internet forum. That takes it to a pathetic level.

I have disdain for you too...good to know we agree.
 
I Wish people could stay on track in this thread. But it seems to be a very Biased place. This is Mac forums not Anti-Mac Forums. If you have something postitive to add then do so. But if your going to be negative and use this for some other Agenda.

Then go some place else
 
JediZenMaster said:
I Wish people could stay on track in this thread. But it seems to be a very Biased place. This is Mac forums not Anti-Mac Forums. If you have something postitive to add then do so. But if your going to be negative and use this for some other Agenda.

Then go some place else
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Huh? Where did you get the idea that only people who are pro mac are allowed? This is Mac RUMORS not Mac FANDOM.
 
scmguru said:
Apple is setting a precedent. Let this be a warning to anyone else who thinks it would be a good idea to disclose trade secrets on the internet.
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You people are so off its not even funny.

This has nothing to do with disclosing trade secrets, and everything to do with buying/being in possesion of stolen goods. Simple as that.

If the guy that "found" the iPhone just casually met with Gizmodo for 30 mins and let them hold it and take pictures of it, before he returned it to Apple, Gizmodo would still be "disclosing trade secrets" (funny description for journalists reporting about company stuff), but it would be hard to argue Gizmodo did anything illegal.

Im actually surprised Gizmodo didnt do this, especially since most of the phones internals werent revealed anyway. It would still be a scoop for them, but without all this hassle. They definately got carried away.
 
Revelation78 said:
past, I've seen more insults out of one of your posts than the entire thread combined. Mabe you should practice what you preach...

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me, I'm most definitely not always right. However I have a disdain for some of the idiots that have posted their rediculous BS on this site.
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this is a warning for insulting other members
 
fredoviola said:
leaking an image of the next gen iPhone cost Apple some money, imo. Many believe it's a better looking phone (I'm one of them!) and will wait until it's released to purchase. Gizmodo should be held responsible for such damages.
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So let me get this straight, if you reveal something, either in words or in pictures, that makes a company lose money, you should be held responsible for that company´s loss. Right?

Think about what you are saying for a minute.
 
karlwig said:
So let me get this straight, if you reveal something, either in words or in pictures, that makes a company lose money, you should be held responsible for that company´s loss. Right?

Think about what you are saying for a minute.
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If you reveal a misappropriated trade secret, in words or in pictures, that makes the company owning the trade secret lose money, you should be held responsible for that company's loss. That's the law.
 
karlwig said:
So let me get this straight, if you reveal something, either in words or in pictures, that makes a company lose money, you should be held responsible for that company´s loss. Right?

Think about what you are saying for a minute.
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You are aware of the Uniform Trade Secrets Act, right? And the legal concept of misappropriation of trade secrets? I'm not suggesting to you that every utterance that causes a company to lose money is a misappropriation, but I'm looking for a starting point.
 
hamlinspahn said:
Wow if you have a problem with someone click the little report icon and report the Mods will issue the warning if necessary.
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pastparticiple said:
What? Who are you to give a warning? Not that I support the person you are "warning" because he directed that post at me, but what authority are you exercising?
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it was a joke. The authority was granted to me by MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Good One

sclawis300 said:
it was a joke. The authority was granted to me by MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Well you got me too I thought you were serious. I don't know when you first read or if you have read all the post here but many and I do mean many were quite nasty, and many have been removed by the mods for that reason. :)
 
quinntaylor said:
NOTE: Occam's razor is not "the simplest solution which involves conspiracy is usually the correct one". By all means, continue insisting that you know the truth, and that what is obvious to everyone else is too trivial to even conceivably be true. It's easy to judge when you're not burdened with the facts.

My experience is that our legal system is far from perfect, but it's a LOT better than you're suggesting. Don't you suppose that if this was all tied to money and conspiracy, that somebody (who actually knows, and isn't just conjecturing) would say something, even anonymously? Sheesh...
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The facts? Well, to start with Apple is pushing the criminal charges

Source: http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2010/04/26/daily36.html

I made this post, IIRC, in response to someone who was of the opinion that Apple was powerless here and the authorities were doing it on their own. I'm not saying anything new, the rich and powerful get more justice than the typical slob like you and me. If Steve Jobs and a poor black male were gunned down in separate events in South Central LA, who do you thing would get the most police action?

Its been this way for ages; the police and legal entities (e.g. DA's) will respond the the claims of the rich and powerful with more fervor than to us normal people. Its not some elaborate conspiracy; its just telling it the way things are. Power and clout gets access and the ear of those in power.

In this instance, Apple, who has a partnership with the "REACT" team by the way, by some manner had them go in with door breacher and firearms to seize the computers, Airport Router and other items of a journalist who crossed them. The message and chilling effect is clear here - DO NOT MESS WITH APPLE.
 
Full of Win said:
The facts? Well, to start with Apple is pushing the criminal charges

Source: http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2010/04/26/daily36.html

In this instance, Apple, who has a partnership with the "REACT" team by the way, by some manner had them go in with door breacher and firearms to seize the computers, Airport Router and other items of a journalist who crossed them. The message and chilling effect is clear here - DO NOT MESS WITH APPLE.
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I like how you leave out the other 24 Tech companies that are members, you know MS, Adobe, etc...
 
pastparticiple said:
That is irrelevant here...none of those companies are involved in this and their presence on the committee does not mean Apple has no influence.
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I'm not saying Apple had no influence, I think it's improper to only name Apple as if Apple controls REACT like its special investigative branch. He could easily have chosen different verbage and I wouldn't have even responded - yet he chose to omit facts. So I put them out there.
 
pastparticiple said:
That is irrelevant here...none of those companies are involved in this and their presence on the committee does not mean Apple has no influence.
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Obviously this is all Adobe's doing, as revenge for the Flash thing. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron, because the most complicated explanation is always the best explanation.
 
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