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Police Told to Avoid Looking at iPhone Screens Locked With Face ID
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Do you lock the door to your house when you leave? Why? You don't think someone who wants to get in will find another way, or did you replace all the glass windows and doors with steel plates and biometric locks? I mean, you do give a **** about privacy, right?
Most people put passcodes on their phones not to make them impenetrable, but to keep honest people honest, and to secure their info should they lose their phone. Privacy wingnuts think everyone wants to see their family pictures...or is there other things on the phone they don't want seen?
Yeah, but if I found your phone I don’t want to unintentionally your indecent material. My mental health is more valuable to me then finding your insecure phone. Do us all a favour a put a 1234 passcode.
Most citizens are not criminals and the few that are have already found workarounds. There are foolish criminals too, so.
Someone stole a bike out of my garage, and now I’ve got cameras surrounding the house. Security requires layers.
I don't believe that's true; being able to remain silent if you choose to.
Apple already has it. It's called iCloud backup.
You would be jailed in contempt of court. So you could remain silent but it wouldn’t buy you freedom.
The most stupidest post I have read in ages. No offence
Correct, though I suppose with contempt they can’t hold you forever (at some point it becomes a fourth amendment issue, though it can be a long time).
Federal courts have ruled that people cannot be compelled to reveal pass codes as that would violate their 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination. In the United States, of course.
“...I have nothing to hide.”
You THINK you have nothing to hide. Do you sleep with all doors unlocked in your home?
Huh? How does touchid solve anything? If a court orders you to provide your fingerprint you have to do it. Same as making you look at the phone.
Pursuant to your rights accorded to in the 5th amendment, you have to the right to not answer any questions that may lead to self-incrimination. With-holding your password I believe falls under that.
Not necessarily. There are people in jail for contempt for not providing their passwords. https://blogs.findlaw.com/third_cir...ing-to-unlock-devices-in-child-porn-case.html
Well, the story about the child sex offender certainly showcases a “bad person” (and child sex offenders are evil—not sure why you would put quotes around the phrase bad people) securing a phone with FaceId. This is going to be an ongoing issue and it’s nieve to think law enforcement wouldn’t be trained on how to deal with the latest iPhone security
Which I believe violates recent federal court rulings stating the civilians cannot be compelled to hand over their passwords.
Nope. This link was to a federal appeals court case. The theory is that it isn’t compelling you to testify against yourself if it’s a foregone conclusion that the device does belong to you and contains incriminating information. By providing your passcode you aren’t being forced to admit the phone is yours, because we already know the phone is yours.
And how will they know the phone even has this evidence, without being able to access its contents?
You say “will” like it’s hypothetical. Go read the case. It happened. The guy is in jail because the prosecutor convinced a court of law.
I think you forgot to mention the element, apparently required, that the Government already knew the contents of the device.
Sometimes being “bad” means being the wrong color.