Politico Europe Uses Apple Wallet To Send EU Referendum Notifications to Readers

[Googlyhead]

On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant superior alternative to normal app notification. You can opt to add certain info into Wallet to receive updates.
Say I want to follow this referendum but not UEFA Euro 2016, I can add EU Reference card to my wallet and only receive update on this. In most apps, you do not have the options to filter notifications.

In a way; I do like the principle that you can essentially add a "membership card" to the wallet, and get (hopefully) relevant updates. That said; now it has been demonstrated, it's only a matter of time before there are implementations deliberately abusing this functionality.
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Brexit has also long since become the shorthand for the referendum itself. After all people are voting for or against leaving. And it's clear the British public would be better off cause all the powerful people are against it. Let's make this the first domino that breaks up the political disaster that is the EU. Way too much power and corruption in a small amount of hands in Brussels controlling too varied a group of countries with vastly different problems and needs this EU thing needs to envision an end in sight and give all varied countries back their own ruling powers. It'd make it far easier to hold our political classes to account and swifter to implement changes that helped each specific countries needs.

I'm not going to state that one outcome is better than the other, but;
the "stay" group has the specific problem that the referendum results from there being no compelling reason to stay.
Likewise; the "leave" group needs to convince people that it's worth voting if they want to leave, as opposed to the ambivalent "nothing will change".

I do see the earlier point in that some groups with a vested interest are essentially scaremongering, and there is potential backlash from that.
I do also think that the EU "management" needs something of a wake-up call, regardless of the outcome.

 

[Porco]

Brexit has also long since become the shorthand for the referendum itself. After all people are voting for or against leaving.

You can say it's a referendum on (the desire for) Brexit if you like (though I personally think it pre-judges the outcome to do so), but it is just flat-out incorrect to say that Brexit is shorthand for the actual choice ('the process') of whether to to exit the EU or not - I was specifically pointing out the misleading way the story was originally written to suggest that the referendum itself was a process referred to as Brexit - because it just isn't. It doesn't make logical sense to say Brexit is the process to decide whether we have Brexit, you see? That's all. Anyway, I am happy to see the story has been edited to make more sense now.

On the actual story, it seems like a mis-use of the wallet app, I wouldn't think Apple will let this kind of thing go on for very long.

 

[orbital~debris]

Brexit has also long since become the shorthand for the referendum itself. After all people are voting for or against leaving.

I agree with @Porco. Brexit has certainly not become widely-used* shorthand for the EU referendum.

'Brexit' is absolutely not the process of deciding - that's what 'referendum' is.

'Brexit' is simply one of two possible outcomes of the referendum process (the inverse being 'BrIn', if you will).

*I expect there are people who use the term in that way (i.e. lazily, by those who wish to leave - presumptive that a Brexit will occur).

 

[69650]

Interesting to see what Britain decides. I've read so many different reports that I'm not sure what to believe is better for Britan and the USA (being that this action will affect the US in some way or another).

I think most British people will be glad when the referendum is over and we know the result.
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I agree with @Porco. Brexit has certainly not become widely-used* shorthand for the EU referendum.

'Brexit' is absolutely not the process of deciding - that's what 'referendum' is.

'Brexit' is simply one of two possible outcomes of the referendum process (the inverse being 'BrIn', if you will).

*I expect there are people who use the term in that way (i.e. lazily, by those who wish to leave - presumptive that a Brexit will occur).

You have misunderstood the term being used. Brexit is the question, not one side of the argument. Should Britain exit the EU or not? So you are either in favour of Brexit or you're against Brexit.

 

[Porco]

You have misunderstood the term being used. Brexit is the question, not one side of the argument. Should Britain exit the EU or not? So you are either in favour of Brexit or you're against Brexit.

The actual referendum question (the argument!) is, of course, "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?". It comprises both sides' point of view. The question is not 'So, Brexit, yeah?' or 'Best to stay in the EU, right?', because either of those would be terrible biased/loaded questions to ask in a referendum.

'Brexit' isn't even an official answer, let alone the question! The answers to choose from are "Remain a member of the European Union" and "Leave the European Union", as set out by the official question.

By dismissing the remain side of the argument as 'or not' I think you are being a little biased. The question is not Brexit, that is just one possible outcome.

It would also be biased for someone with an opposing view to say "the question is to remain in the EU or not?" — the other possible outcome. E.g. 'So you are either in favour of remaining in the EU or you're against remaining in the EU'.

Brexit is clearly one aim, one side of the argument, with remaining in the EU the other aim, the other side of the argument. The referendum question is the question, presenting the choice of both sides' desired outcomes.

The other point to make is that it could still be technically possible that the leave side wins but then we never actually exit (imagine, just hypothetically, that our economy tanks so badly, everyone changes their minds and the EU says it's ok for us to change out minds, so we have another referendum within a year and vote to stay in). I am not saying that will happen in real life at all, but I am just pointing out that voting to leave does not equal 'instant Brexit'. 'Brexit' would only finally happen after a minimum of two years' time to allow for negotiations etc - so you see, describing the question, or the referendum, as 'Brexit' is just not accurate. To put it another way, 'Brexit' is one of two destinations, voting to leave is part of the journey towards Brexit.

 

[Norbs12]

So will this be a new mechanism for spam to enter my everyday life? This kind of thing would have me disabling Wallet pretty darn quick.

Nope, just like any pass in your wallet, you have to actually add it from either a link or an app. It's basically like subscribing to updates or and RSS feed. No one can spam you with this, you intentionally add it and have control of removing it.
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In a way; I do like the principle that you can essentially add a "membership card" to the wallet, and get (hopefully) relevant updates. That said; now it has been demonstrated, it's only a matter of time before there are implementations deliberately abusing this functionality.
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I'm not going to state that one outcome is better than the other, but;
the "stay" group has the specific problem that the referendum results from there being no compelling reason to stay.
Likewise; the "leave" group needs to convince people that it's worth voting if they want to leave, as opposed to the ambivalent "nothing will change".

I do see the earlier point in that some groups with a vested interest are essentially scaremongering, and there is potential backlash from that.
I do also think that the EU "management" needs something of a wake-up call, regardless of the outcome.

How would someone abuse something that you have to consciously add to your wallet?

 

[ignatius345]

So will this be a new mechanism for spam to enter my everyday life? This kind of thing would have me disabling Wallet pretty darn quick.

No, you'd just delete whatever "pass" in Wallet is delivering the notifications you don't want. You wouldn't have to disable the whole thing because one implementation was bothering you.

 

[WB2Colorado]

I doubt that Apple will allow this for very long, they've never been a fan of developers using features in iOS in ways they didn't intend or expect.

 

[Mac 128]

I doubt that Apple will allow this for very long, they've never been a fan of developers using features in iOS in ways they didn't intend or expect.

They probably can't stop it until the next update, since they didn't expect this kind of implementation. They have no control over it, otherwise. Though I'm not sure how they can stop this, without changing the way legitimate wallet use is handled, and even if they do, I'd think any restrictions could be circumvented anyway.