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Poll: OS X Browser of Choice (09/02)
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I just installed Chimera, and WOW!
I voted Mozilla, but I think I might have a new favorite browser. This thing is fast, has tabbed browsing (don't see how anyone could browse any other way), and uses anti-aliasing.
Which brings me to a question: Which browsers currently use anti-aliasing? I know IE was the first, and now Chimera. Any other browsers use this feature?
I voted Mozilla, but I think I might have a new favorite browser. This thing is fast, has tabbed browsing (don't see how anyone could browse any other way), and uses anti-aliasing.
Which brings me to a question: Which browsers currently use anti-aliasing? I know IE was the first, and now Chimera. Any other browsers use this feature?
I've got Moz 1.0, but I don't see AA. Is AA included in 1.1 then? And is 1.1 out of beta testing yet?
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Yeah, 1.1 is official...and it looks AA to me...
Thanks Rower... So, which is your browser of choice? And why?
In case I haven't said it already...IE, with Chimera a close second.
It comes down to browsing habits for me. IE's keyboard shortcuts are better for me browsing without a mouse on my laptop.
Chimera is fast and renders well, so I'm keeping a close eye on it as it develops.
It comes down to browsing habits for me. IE's keyboard shortcuts are better for me browsing without a mouse on my laptop.
Chimera is fast and renders well, so I'm keeping a close eye on it as it develops.
I am currently running chimera 0.5 on my original icebook with 10.2 installed.
I have been running chimera since 0.2 and it has been my default browser for most of the time (otherwise it was Mozilla)
I have been running chimera since 0.2 and it has been my default browser for most of the time (otherwise it was Mozilla)
Sorry to double post, but IE was NOT the first to have AA
Chimera has had it since 0.2 or before, I think
Sorry to burst your IE bubble.
Chimera has had it since 0.2 or before, I think
Sorry to burst your IE bubble.
M$ IE first
The more I thought about it, the funnier it became--the notion that M$ would be the first to do something good and desirable. Makes me laugh still.
(still chuckling)
Chris
The more I thought about it, the funnier it became--the notion that M$ would be the first to do something good and desirable. Makes me laugh still.
(still chuckling)
Chris
LOL
page 3 of the January thread....the discovery of Chimera.
i cant believe something such a short time ago could make me feel nostalgic.
thanks for the links.
page 3 of the January thread....the discovery of Chimera.
i cant believe something such a short time ago could make me feel nostalgic.
thanks for the links.
Re: LOL
I hardly every use anything else now. Still more work to be done, but it's largely fulfilled its promise.
Chris
Yeah. We were all trying to figure out what it was/wasn't. The thing that actually surprises me a bit is that so many were able to see the promise Chimera held even in its infancy. It was rough--certainly a work in progress.
I hardly every use anything else now. Still more work to be done, but it's largely fulfilled its promise.
Chris
lol must have links to apple
lol, n apple legals pretty strict...of course..ya ie has lost its dominance on the mac market...since bout 10.1 or so came out n then mozilla n chimera kicked ie's a$$ if it had one lol
After using Chimera it is hard to understand why anyone would vote for anything else. It is just so --- Fast... I could sort of understand voting for Mozilla, but in my opinion Mozilla is to bulky, while Chimera is fast and almost flawless. I like CHim.
I like CHim.
I sure hope so. And it is my guess that they are. They hired the Chimera dude, and yes - he is a good developer and he could be making any type of program, but my guess is that he is working on iSurf/iBrowse/iHaveastupidname. I could be wrong, but I have a strong feeling about this. An apple browser is the perfect missing iApp. Check out iBrowse, it is a Chimera modification, I dont know the link, so youll have to search. That is my idea of an apple browser.
using Chimera 0.5 on iBook 500 OSX.2
have to switch back to IE frequently as many e-commerce sites use JavaScript and are VERY IE-centric in their backward looking code.
as an aside, i think it's ironic that most folks are happy to chastise MS for being 'monopolistic' with their inclusion and integration of IE into their various OSes but no one here seems to care that if Apple were to create an 'iBrowser' they'd be doing the same thing. in fact when you look at it if you use the same arguments used against MS the whole 'iApps' suite looks pretty bad.
i for one hope Chimera stays independent of Apple and remains open source. it's a great piece of software.
i_b_joshua
have to switch back to IE frequently as many e-commerce sites use JavaScript and are VERY IE-centric in their backward looking code.
as an aside, i think it's ironic that most folks are happy to chastise MS for being 'monopolistic' with their inclusion and integration of IE into their various OSes but no one here seems to care that if Apple were to create an 'iBrowser' they'd be doing the same thing. in fact when you look at it if you use the same arguments used against MS the whole 'iApps' suite looks pretty bad.
i for one hope Chimera stays independent of Apple and remains open source. it's a great piece of software.
i_b_joshua
You almost have a valid point there, but there is a huge difference between the iApps and MS integrating IE into Windows.
The way MS went about it, they used the same technology for local file management and for web browsing. IE is Windows Explorer and vice versa. With that level of integration, any other browseer gets left out in the cold in terms of performance and reliability.
Second, MS was very adamant about resellers including shortcuts to IE on the desktop, and not letting people remove it from the system. This has since changed, due to the recent legal developments.
So, unless Apple creates iFinder and makes it impossible to remove from the system...you can't begin to compare the two.
Yeah, you've lumped two arguments together, though. Some complain that M$ integrates useful apps into the OS (e.g., defrag), hurting companies that make/made similar (typically better) apps. They can include the price of those apps in the OS, not giving consumers a choice about whether or not to pay for them. When you look at the increase in price of each M$ OS, this is a legitimate complaint. It's not clear that Apple is increasing the cost of their upgrades any faster than the Cost of Living. Their upgrades certainly cost less than those of M$.
The primary complaint, though (the one you seem to be missing), is that IE code is integrated into the OS, giving their browser an advantage over others'. This is why IE runs faster on XP than Mozilla--it's already loaded when you boot up. While their argument was that it improves user experience (by allowing them to experience their desktops as they do the web), the outcome is that it allows M$ to observe browsing habits (something Netscape also does, but gets less publicity for). I worry about a scary, draconian company having information about my browsing habits. I actually wouldn't worry too much about Apple knowing where and how I browse.
While the software development habits of the two companies may appear the same, I believe the motivation is different (and looking at market forces, this is easy to understand why). M$ wants to own your desktop. They want you to use Office, Money, and their OS so that they can rule the world. They fold what they can into the OS (charging you anyway), and charge ridiculous amounts of money for the other stuff (like Office). While Apple would probably like to be in that position, they have had to give away free software to convince people that spending their money to switch would be worth it. The typical knock against the Mac is that there are not enough software titles. Giving away multimedia apps like iMovie and iTunes shows how the Mac experience can be superior. Had they not done this, people would be much less likely to switch.
Having said all this, I remain disappointed that there is not a browser for OS X that measures up to the offerings for the PC. Apple surely knows this, and knows how important people's browsers are. I would not be surprised or disappointed if they chose to make one (although I don't think they will).
The world's a competitive place. It's tough to be the underdog in a market that is monopolized by one company. Apple will do what they believe they need to.
Chris