I am in the same boat. I am really at a loss why Apple is not just selling a full version as well.
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POLL: What are you gonna do when Snow Leopard comes out
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I am in the same boat. I am really at a loss why Apple is not just selling a full version as well.
I'm wondering about all this myself. I'm very happy with my tiger system and want to continue using it. I never went to leopard. But would like Snow Leopard.
I put in a large hd in my macbook with 2 partitions....one for Tiger and one for SL. I never use all those iLife apps. I'm not interested in any kind of iWorks either. I consider $169 pretty steep.
You think there will be a version on sale thats just SL and I guess whatever the 'free' app suite that comes with..Garageband, iPhoto, etc etc etc
or should I buy Leopard now and then do the $29 upgrade. So thats about $130 total....jeez, big freakin deal...
Apple...just sell SL for a hundred bucks for criss sake, will ya
I put in a large hd in my macbook with 2 partitions....one for Tiger and one for SL. I never use all those iLife apps. I'm not interested in any kind of iWorks either. I consider $169 pretty steep.
You think there will be a version on sale thats just SL and I guess whatever the 'free' app suite that comes with..Garageband, iPhoto, etc etc etc
or should I buy Leopard now and then do the $29 upgrade. So thats about $130 total....jeez, big freakin deal...
Apple...just sell SL for a hundred bucks for criss sake, will ya
If you've already got Leopard installed, you don't need to go though the Tiger - Leopard - Snow Leopard routine, even if you want a clean install. You can even re-partition your hard drive once it has detected Leopard is present.*
It's only if you decide to fit a new hard drive would you would need to start with Tiger. It would be cheaper to buy aUSB adaptor and clone your hard drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! than to pay $169 for the full version.
* Of course this assumes the Snow Leopard upgrade will work in the same manner as previous OS upgrades.
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im gonna boot my G5 up stroking the sexy case and say heyho, 
at least until i can afford a mac mini haha
at least until i can afford a mac mini
hahathat the 29 dollar disc will have the full install, yes? that seems to be the debate. guess we won't know until it comes out then.
I don't think the topicstarter fully understands the differences between the two options as do many other people. As Phil Schiller said in the keynote at wwdc09: if you want to upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard, pay 29$ and get Snow Leopard. If you have Tiger and want to upgrade to Snow Leopard, pay 169$ and get the Mac Box set. The set enables you to upgrade your system to the newest OS X, iLife and iWork. In other words, you choose option 1 if you are running Leopard and you choose option 2 if you are running Tiger. Both options do not mention a clean install and if you think about it that makes perfect sense:
The license will be an upgrade license, but that's a nobrainer since OS X comes with a Mac and your required to have an Apple computer to install OS X in the first place. Licensewise there is no need for anything other than an upgrade. I think that's why Phil Schiller was only mentioning "upgrade".
However, this does not mean that this "upgrade" also means a technical upgrade. Former OS X versions always have had the option to upgrade the current running system or do a clean install. I don't think Snow Leopard will be any different. Same goes for the up-to-date program: that has been a real upgrade both on the license part as well as on the technical part (you need to install the OS that came with the Mac and then upgrade it to the new version).
The license will be an upgrade license, but that's a nobrainer since OS X comes with a Mac and your required to have an Apple computer to install OS X in the first place. Licensewise there is no need for anything other than an upgrade. I think that's why Phil Schiller was only mentioning "upgrade".
However, this does not mean that this "upgrade" also means a technical upgrade. Former OS X versions always have had the option to upgrade the current running system or do a clean install. I don't think Snow Leopard will be any different. Same goes for the up-to-date program: that has been a real upgrade both on the license part as well as on the technical part (you need to install the OS that came with the Mac and then upgrade it to the new version).
I will buy the $/ 29 update. I don't see any reason to pay more for the same thing - and I really, honestly, seriously don't care at all for the iToys suites.
But looking at the direction where Apple is headed (which is consumer toys), this could be my last OS X update. I currently use Windows 7 on a daily basis at work, and the only thing from the Mac that I miss there is Quick Look. Other than that, Win7 runs circles around OS X.
But looking at the direction where Apple is headed (which is consumer toys), this could be my last OS X update. I currently use Windows 7 on a daily basis at work, and the only thing from the Mac that I miss there is Quick Look. Other than that, Win7 runs circles around OS X.
so does all this mean if i wanted to install SL on my Tiger partition I can do it for the 29 bucks, but if i want to put SL on a partition thats completely clean i'd need the box set?
or does the installer recognize that theres a system already somewhere on the computer regardless and will let me do a fresh full SL install on my other partition?
sorry..i went form os9 to tiger so i'm not up on how apple handles all this osx upgrade stuff
or does the installer recognize that theres a system already somewhere on the computer regardless and will let me do a fresh full SL install on my other partition?
sorry..i went form os9 to tiger so i'm not up on how apple handles all this osx upgrade stuff
$169 is way too expensive because Snow Leopard only improves Leopard's performance, so $129 is not worth it entirely, I don't know how to get rid of the iLife suit (well... I did it for iWeb and Garbage Band. iDVD, iMovie, and perhaps, iChat are endangered species. the only reason I like iPhoto, although I don't have many photos, is because of the nice "Enhance" button), and Pages is the only application I use in the free iWork trial, so...
... $29 with fresh install. This is my first Mac, I installed a lot of crap on Leopard, I've always wanted to reinstall, but now I'm going to do it, and plan on occupying 10GB at the utmost after finishing installing the OS and the necessary things. And, of course, after getting rid of the bloated included stuff.
... $29 with fresh install. This is my first Mac, I installed a lot of crap on Leopard, I've always wanted to reinstall, but now I'm going to do it, and plan on occupying 10GB at the utmost after finishing installing the OS and the necessary things. And, of course, after getting rid of the bloated included stuff.
Upgrade for my MacBook Pro through up-to-date. Not sure what I will do about the Dell Mini 9 though.
I am too poor to pay for anything else, that is why I want the upgrade. I already have disks with iLife '09 anyways because my computer was born March.
Hmm, I'm trying to understand what's going on here.
I have Leopard and plan to upgrade for $29. Will the disk I buy require Leopard to be installed first before you can install SL? Even for a clean install on a newly formated HD? To me this doesn't make sense because I would have to install Leopard, which has a bigger footprint, then install SL to save 6GB of space. I would think the SL install DVD would have everything for SL and not be dependent on Leopard. Unless Apple is going to make 2 types of disks, a full install and upgrade disk.
OS's are kinda foreign to me so I'm not sure how Apple and Microsoft does OS transitions. Are there 2 disks for upgrading OS? for Mac OSX and Windows 7?
I have Leopard and plan to upgrade for $29. Will the disk I buy require Leopard to be installed first before you can install SL? Even for a clean install on a newly formated HD? To me this doesn't make sense because I would have to install Leopard, which has a bigger footprint, then install SL to save 6GB of space. I would think the SL install DVD would have everything for SL and not be dependent on Leopard. Unless Apple is going to make 2 types of disks, a full install and upgrade disk.
OS's are kinda foreign to me so I'm not sure how Apple and Microsoft does OS transitions. Are there 2 disks for upgrading OS? for Mac OSX and Windows 7?
When Snow Leopard comes out I will sit and wait. I'll probably read a ton of threads in the Applications and OS X subforums about how 10.6 broke x y and z.
If the Snow Leopard upgrade disk works in the same way to previous OS X upgrade disks, the only difference from the normal retail disk is that it checks that the qualifying previous OS is already installed on your HD.
Once that check has taken place, you have exactly the same options as the full disk. You can format your HD or add or remove partitions before installing the new OS and you have the same install options; either Upgrade (default), Achive & Install or Erase & Install.
If you want no trace of Leopard left on your HD, just go with the Erase & Install option.
Ah, but that still means you need to have the previous version installed. If you put in a new disk this either means you have to do a clean install of the previous OS X version or restore a backup (Time Machine, Carbon Copy Cleaner, clone the disk, etc.). Could one get around this part of the install by putting the target Mac into target disk mode and have the installer run on a Mac with Leopard and have it Snow Leopard install on the disk in target disk mode? My logic tells me that should work.
If you see what the Mac Box Set is for (upgrading old Macs to the newest OS X, iLife and iWork) then this is only ideal if you want to upgrade iLife and iWork as well. If you only want to upgrade OS X then the 29$ Snow Leopard upgrade license will do. The Mac Box Set price won't drop because it has iLife and iWork. If you would buy them seperately they would cost you more. So in fact you could say that OS X comes free with that box