Poor Apple, Android Users Put Them in a Can't Win Situation

[NebulaClash]

All tech companies respond to market demand. They also see what competitors are doing and they respond to that. But while Google gets to turn Android right around and look like iPhones, Apple never is allowed to do anything according to Android users.

1. Apple misses a feature Android has: LOL, Apple is behind, they suck, they can't compete. C'mon, Apple, give us this feature already!

2. Apple listens to the demand, adds the feature: LOL, Apple has to copy Android. They are falling behind. They can't compete. C'mon, Apple, quit copying Android!

In other words, Apple cannot win. No matter what they do, this serves as proof to the Android camp that Apple is wrong.

 

[wordoflife]

See, the thing is that it doesn't matter.

 

[Givmeabrek]

Apple is a leader. Either follow or get out of the way.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Apple is eating **** right now and rightfully so because Apple and Apple fans make a huge deal when ever someone MINORLY copies Apple and then then do not forget the 2011 year of the copy cats from Apple.

Now Apple does some very blantant coping and almost everyone one of their new features is a pretty huge copy. They are going to eat it.

if you noticed the fans of the other companies nor the other company (RIM, MS, Android, and palm) never say anything much when they copy each other. It might be pointed out hell even among the fans they will say something about it but it is meh. But Apple fans on the other hand make a huge deal about it so Apple is eating crow. What goes around comes around.

 

[bailorg]

See, the thing is that it doesn't matter.

Bingo. The thing that sets iOS, and Apple in general, apart isn't the feature list, but the fit and finish of the whole user interface. It's one thing to have a feature listed on a sell sheet, it's quite another to integrate that feature into a pleasant, easy to understand user interface.

 

[chrono1081]

All tech companies respond to market demand. They also see what competitors are doing and they respond to that. But while Google gets to turn Android right around and look like iPhones, Apple never is allowed to do anything according to Android users.

1. Apple misses a feature Android has: LOL, Apple is behind, they suck, they can't compete. C'mon, Apple, give us this feature already!

2. Apple listens to the demand, adds the feature: LOL, Apple has to copy Android. They are falling behind. They can't compete. C'mon, Apple, quit copying Android!

In other words, Apple cannot win. No matter what they do, this serves as proof to the Android camp that Apple is wrong.

No worries OP, the only people who bash Apple are those who are insecure in their own purchases. They have to put someone else down to feel better about the device they have. Its simple psychology.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

No worries OP, the only people who bash Apple are those who are insecure in their own purchases. They have to put someone else down to feel better about the device they have. Its simple psychology.

so what does that say about Apple fanboys who are the worse at doing that?

 

[TheSideshow]

No worries OP, the only people who bash Apple are those who are insecure in their own purchases. They have to put someone else down to feel better about the device they have. Its simple psychology.

Why would people feel insecure about spending less on a product? We CAN use your logic for Apple purchasers though, since they have a reason to need to justify their purchase. It does fit the Apple persona well.

How can you tell someone uses a Mac? They will tell you.

 

[qacjared]

All tech companies respond to market demand. They also see what competitors are doing and they respond to that. But while Google gets to turn Android right around and look like iPhones, Apple never is allowed to do anything according to Android users.

1. Apple misses a feature Android has: LOL, Apple is behind, they suck, they can't compete. C'mon, Apple, give us this feature already!

2. Apple listens to the demand, adds the feature: LOL, Apple has to copy Android. They are falling behind. They can't compete. C'mon, Apple, quit copying Android!

In other words, Apple cannot win. No matter what they do, this serves as proof to the Android camp that Apple is wrong.

Apple can win.

As a AAPL shareholder, do I care what pundits say? do I care what people on the internet say? No. The question is can Apple make a great product, sell lots of it, and make a lot of money. Andriod users don't buy stuff. They can talk all they want to, but it's cheap.

By all measures, they have won where it counts. Apple is the second biggest company in the world.

Let them whine. $$ speaks for itself.

 

[chrono1081]

so what does that say about Apple fanboys who are the worse at doing that?

Why would people feel insecure about spending less on a product? We CAN use your logic for Apple purchasers though, since they have a reason to need to justify their purchase. It does fit the Apple persona well.

How can you tell someone uses a Mac? They will tell you.

See what I mean OP?

 

[TooSmooth]

Look at it this way. Each feature apple is adding with ios5 is or can be done on android already.

 

[TheSideshow]

See what I mean OP?

Sorry remind me, as someone who has owned an iPhone before, why I am insecure? I actually bought an OG iPhone on the day of its release. Up until last year I had no problems saying iPhone was the best smartphone, but things have changed.

 

[NebulaClash]

Yes, fanboys on all sides exhibit insecurity when they feel the need to attack others.

Me? I'm happy for Android users. But I like Apple products very much, and with each new revision to iOS it reduces the check list items that people love to shove at Apple as if they are deficient because of some list of features. Now Android fans will have to come up with new reasons to hate Apple cuz the old complaints won't apply any more.

And yes, Apple continues to clean up in the market. Most people will barely have heard of the cloud before this week, but they're going to know about it now as Apple publicizes their version of it. That's what Apple does best: take features and make it work great.

 

[marksman]

What I amazed about is how much stuff some android users are just flat out making up about what they can do with their devices.. It is a little weird, and I feel sad for them.

 

[TheSideshow]

Yes, fanboys on all sides exhibit insecurity when they feel the need to attack others.

Me? I'm happy for Android users. But I like Apple products very much, and with each new revision to iOS it reduces the check list items that people love to shove at Apple as if they are deficient because of some list of features. Now Android fans will have to come up with new reasons to hate Apple cuz the old complaints won't apply any more.

And yes, Apple continues to clean up in the market. Most people will barely have heard of the cloud before this week, but they're going to know about it now as Apple publicizes their version of it. That's what Apple does best: take features and make it work great.

Lets think rationally. We have no idea how the iCloud service will work yet.

If we changed "work great" to "market great" I will agree completely.

 

[SidewaysTakumi]

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That's what Apple does best: take features and make it work great.

Spot on.

 

[TheSideshow]

What I amazed about is how much stuff some android users are just flat out making up about what they can do with their devices.. It is a little weird, and I feel sad for them.

You can do a ton with Android. Android is great for that. Android's problem is that it lets people run free and its not polished. It REALLY should be just for geeks. I am surprised it has gotten as big as it has to be honest and I would really like Windows Phone and iPhone to run the market and not Android.

Im currently an Android user

 

[wovel]

Sorry remind me, as someone who has owned an iPhone before, why I am insecure? I actually bought an OG iPhone on the day of its release. Up until last year I had no problems saying iPhone was the best smartphone, but things have changed.

You are only posting here to try and justify your purchase of a product that has always been inferior, and is just becoming more so. It makes you feel better for a bit. Your only shot at long term happiness is to admit your mistake, dump whatever POS you bought and pick up a real mobile device. PS your phone won't run Android 4 and if it really cost less then an iPhone (as you stated) it won't run 3 either.

Good luck.

 

[TheSideshow]

You are only posting here to try and justify your purchase of a product that has always been inferior, and is just becoming more so. It makes you feel better for a bit. Your only shot at long term happiness is to admit your mistake, dump whatever POS you bought and pick up a real mobile device. PS your phone won't run Android 4 and if it really cost less then an iPhone (as you stated) it won't run 3 either.

Good luck.

Wow dude, good job. Now read my post above yours and see if you think the same.

People here are incapable of thinking rationally and dont think anyone else can be objective about items they own.

 

[mtnDewFTW]

It all boils down to this: Who cares?
Who cares is Google copies Apple, or Apple copies Google? Honestly, let them work it out. We're all consumers, and those companies try to do their best to give us what we want. And so far, Apple has done a good job to satisfy my needs, and I'm sure that Google has done a great job at making their costumers happy. Everyone is biased, and will always favor one side over the other, so what's the point? There's a reason we have multiple companies that make these produces. There is no such thing as 'one size fits all' when it comes to technology. People do things differently in the real world, and that reflects on what phones, tablets, and computers they end up using.

 

[cloroxbleach4]

Either way, we win. Apple listened to the complaints and implemented it. The android way to displaying notifications is wonderful and a similar feature was added to IOS5, which I am happily waiting for.

 

[NebulaClash]

Lets think rationally. We have no idea how the iCloud service will work yet.

If we changed "work great" to "market great" I will agree completely.

It is an assumption on my part, to be sure, since I've not yet used iCloud. But I make this assumption because of how Steve reacted to the the Mobile Me debacle, how determined he is to move in this direction, and the massiveness of the NC data center. I think iCloud will work great with maybe an initial hiccup or two, but not one that most users will ever notice. For the vast majority of average users, it will just work, and it will feel like magic.

 

[mcdj]

God this thread sucks.

 

[chrono1081]

Wow dude, good job. Now read my post above yours and see if you think the same.

People here are incapable of thinking rationally and dont think anyone else can be objective about items they own.

It's not that and I shouldn't have quoted you in the second post I made my apologies its just that anytime someone says something good about Apple there are 50 people to beat that person down, even on Mac rumors of all places where you would think most people like Apple products.

Its simply tiring of hearing all the Apple bashing and people screaming about the "fanboys" (go to Engadget once and count the replies to the Apple articles, you will literally see about a 50 - 1 ratio of Apple haters to Apple likers with all the haters screaming about the non-existant "fanboys".

The truth is, whether anyone likes it or not Apple makes excellent products. Its near impossible to find anything as well made as the items they make, yet anytime something new is released there is a slew of people just waiting to bash. I just find it funny how they keep breaking sales records with these terrible terrible products

 

[pyro008]

The thing is they're taking 3-4 extra months to copy features.