No you can't, and people understand this.
No they don't.
You do, some here do, even many here do.
But I can guarantee there are thousands of people, some with watch orders now, that don't understand this, and will be something they find out about.
No you can't, and people understand this.
No they don't.
You do, some here do, even many here do.
But I can guarantee there are thousands of people, some with watch orders now, that don't understand this, and will be something they find out about.
Only the stock apps run native on the phone. All other apps are run via WatchKit, I.e., calculations done on the phone
What a terrifying thought. I would like to think people understand what they have ordered.
However, worryingly, you might be right.
appleofmy"i";21067370 said:Why does Flipboard have a Watch app? This is the problem I see coming, some developers just don't get the form factor.
I agree that some devs are missing the boat on how to utilize their apps on the Watch. It's not meant to sit there and scroll through lists of texts or be played with for 5-10 mins straight. It's meant for glances and quick responses.
Some people are asking for games and whatnot. No....
So that's 100% concrete for certain, other than whats on the watch NOW, when you buy it new, there are zero apps that will run on just the watch when you are out with just the watch on it's own?
No exceptions?
No Devs with Special Apple approved privilege?
None at all?
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Well, Apple not explaining things is the reason why.
They skirt around things, hint at things, suggest things, but they don't seem to actually come out with a crystal clear bold statement that everyone see'sm understands and "gets" without any confusion.
I have not seen, not that I've been looking hard, but I have not seen so far, any really bold clear statement, that says, Your iPhone will be needed to be within range of the watch for 3rd party apps to work. Or These apps shown will only work when you are carrying your iPhone with you. Or some similar crystal clear statement.
I'm really stoked for version 2 of the Apple Watch, or maybe it's 3.
I had no real reasons to want an Apple Watch, but the Clear app might just give me one. Being able to do my groceries with my two hands free is kind of a good one...
So that's 100% concrete for certain, other than whats on the watch NOW, when you buy it new, there are zero apps that will run on just the watch when you are out with just the watch on it's own?
No exceptions?
No Devs with Special Apple approved privilege?
None at all?
So that's 100% concrete for certain, other than whats on the watch NOW, when you buy it new, there are zero apps that will run on just the watch when you are out with just the watch on it's own?
No exceptions?
No Devs with Special Apple approved privilege?
None at all?
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Well, Apple not explaining things is the reason why.
They skirt around things, hint at things, suggest things, but they don't seem to actually come out with a crystal clear bold statement that everyone see'sm understands and "gets" without any confusion.
I have not seen, not that I've been looking hard, but I have not seen so far, any really bold clear statement, that says, Your iPhone will be needed to be within range of the watch for 3rd party apps to work. Or These apps shown will only work when you are carrying your iPhone with you. Or some similar crystal clear statement.
The phone must run the apps because doing so on the watch would (1) consume limited RAM, and (2) require the watch processor to do the thinking which would seriously compromise battery life. Apple wants the phone to do the heavy lifting and "stream" display changes to the watch. So the watch is basically a "dumb terminal" for the apps.
Supposedly, Apple is working on on-board app capability but looks like they have optimizing to do.
As for lag, this website discusses the nuts and bolts behind what's going on pretty well. Everything is streamed from phone to watch over Bluetooth Low Energy (unless you are at home on wifi) which has speed limitations. Developers are still learning how to optimize around that, which is discussed in the linked site. Thinks like avoiding too many jpgs (looking at you, Flipboard), pre-caching as much as you can, and relying on vectors more than bitmaps. It's promising to read that they are figuring out and it's just a matter of coming to terms with the differences.
When I get my watch, I plan to install some apps but only the most important ones for glancing. I'm not going to go overboard. I still have a phone in my pocket for the more involved interactions.
I'm really surprised that Apple Watch doesn't come with the stock Reminders app. At least I didn't see it on the website. I just assumed that it did. Does Clear sync with iCloud yet? I add many reminders with Siri, but I need a way to manage them quickly. Checking off grocery items is a good use-case for an Apple Watch. It's always really clunky to carry my phone through the store while grabbing stuffespecially if I'm just grabbing a few things using a basket.
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As for people complaining about needing a distinction for which apps will run without an iPhonedon't they all just disappear off your Apple Watch screen when your iPhone is disconnected? Also I thought Apple said that they're bringing native support in the next SDKbut the main issue is that so many apps rely on a data connection. So yeah, better go running where there is WiFi along the whole trail, lol. Only in big cities?
So that's 100% concrete for certain, other than whats on the watch NOW, when you buy it new, there are zero apps that will run on just the watch when you are out with just the watch on it's own?
No exceptions?
No Devs with Special Apple approved privilege?
None at all?
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Well, Apple not explaining things is the reason why.
They skirt around things, hint at things, suggest things, but they don't seem to actually come out with a crystal clear bold statement that everyone see'sm understands and "gets" without any confusion.
I have not seen, not that I've been looking hard, but I have not seen so far, any really bold clear statement, that says, Your iPhone will be needed to be within range of the watch for 3rd party apps to work. Or These apps shown will only work when you are carrying your iPhone with you. Or some similar crystal clear statement.
Just looking at the photo of the alerts is driving me crazy...if the Watch's best feature is getting alerts, I will pass. I'll wait to see what developers come up with to make it more than just a window to the phone. Besides, I have 38 watches, so I like to mix it up a bit.
I really am going to try and make the watch work for me in a way that makes me use my phone less, and in the end, mobile technology less. Even if it's just chipping away a few seconds at a time.
I definitely do not want most of these apps that just make me look at my watch instead of my phone for just as long. That's not the point!
That "Clear" app looks useful. Never heard of it before. I typically use the Reminders first party app for lists right now.
I think everyone would agree that Apple has put a lot of effort into preservation of battery life and that many developers have yet to figure out all the options for optimal performance. But we cant get around the point that the first generation Apple Watch is a very limited piece of technology that, at least to my mind, has not even a killer app. I will be watching the developments, Im sure technology will allow for more efficient and powerful data transmissions and processing in the near future, but currently the Apple Watch just seems too idealistic for an Apple product.
Apple was very clear. Not that it should really matter since, with the example you use the yahoo weather app would not work with only the watch since it needs to be connected.
Currently there are no Third Party (full) apps in the watch. What you are seeing are third party app extensions. So basically it's a partial app, designed to just run what is needed on the watch, with the phone app as a backend to process the info. Full wach native apps are not allowed yet on the watch.
That is my understanding based in the keynote and other apple announcements. If anyone can clarify I would appreciate it.
However, to the AVERAGE user, it's really not an issue whether an app is an extension or full native.
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Such as? Examples of things besides alerts that you would want?
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I like the Yahoo Weather App the most. Can somebody do this with the Weather Underground app? Their latest update cleans up the interface, adds support for new iPhone sizes, but also adds support for Apple Watch! So far the only screenshot I've found is this:
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So, out running with just the watch, listening to some music on the watch, can you tell what the weather is going to be like later in the day with just the watch right now?