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Popular Reddit App Apollo Shutting Down on June 30
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I find Reddit to be a huge time hole now, this might give me the incentive to pull myself away from it. I won't delete my account until I'm sure I've escaped its temporal gravity.
Call me weird, but I can authentically tell you yes, I won't be using Reddit anymore. Especially when it's widely clear to see how messed up the CEO of Reddit acted to Christian about the whole ordeal. (See link below where there's call transcripts of Christian talking to the CEO of Reddit)
I've already found a suitable replacement, reading more books and using a similar alternative in my spare time.
Aether
getaether.net
Imagine Wal-mart offering suppliers a free place to sell their goods as it attracted more customers to Wal-mart to then go and screw both your suppliers and customers.
Imagine Wal-marts own staff used the suppliers because Was-marts own services were so poor if effected their customers negatively.
I'm not a lawyer, but I would imagine it'd be tough to prove in court that Apollo was a) a Reddit competitor & b) buy raising their API pricing, Reddit is creating a monopoly.
Account deletion is key. Not-logged-in Reddit make browsing it a fate worse than Facebook.
If a random search for something throws up a Reddit link, pfft, who cares, I’ll be there briefly and it’ll be adblocked into oblivion.
Reddit will fail Europe's competition law which will be seen as forcing out a competitive app by raising the price of it's API to such a point that it forces the competitive app to shutdown or go out of business. What makes it worse for Reddit is that they are not willing to discuss pricing with the developer of Apollo therefore showing that their intention is to have the Apollo app shutdown.
I don’t see how it can be claimed that an interface is competition.
I think the key word here is not ethical, it fiduciary. Ethics and corporations is a very dicey subject. Companies are structures not people. These structures are designed to allow operations that produce revenue and all of the flow and rules around that. Companies have employees, owners, board members, etc... Any person, that is high enough up in the company to make real decisions, has a fiduciary duty to the company (the structure). This is the case if the company either has investors or is publicly traded. The fiduciary duty comes with REAL law based consequences. These duties are not optional and have decades of case law behind them to make them very clear.
I think part of the confusion around these actions is that people are mad because they are losing something they enjoyed. They then look to the "cause" of the issue and see a company who is asking for a lot of money, money that can't reasonably be paid, and then calling the company unethical.
As yalag has stated, there are many aspects that likely could have been done better. However, is the company unethical? I don't believe so. I am not sure how morals come into this equation.
nobody would be contesting the CEO of reddit is failing in a fiduciary duty because he decided to keep 3rd party apps which they always had OR creating a 12 month sunset of those apps. the apps weren't costing the company so much in ad revenue for that and that all falls within acceptable discretionary decision making. Besides they aren't even a public company yet and can do what they like. There was NOTHING stopping reddit from creating a smoother transition at a bare minimum for their users and developers alike aside from a lack of ethical behavior.
What are you talking about?? 'interface'??, Reddit has it's own mobile phone app and there is a competing mobile phone app called Apollo that uses the same API's. One app is more popular than the official app and now the owners of the official app have changed the T&C's of the API which include among other things a price which is so outrageously high the owner(s) of the competing app are not able to afford and with Reddit refusing to engage in price negotiations, the competing app is thus forced to shutdown.
Whilst it may appear to be an 'interface' to you, to get that 'interface' you have to download an app from Apple's app store. Therefore it being an app means it will come under Europe's competition law.
Apollo is an interface to a website/server owned by Reddit Inc. Nothing more. Reddit is not just its own Interface. The two are not in competition.
What a badly written article. Completely un-objective, the writer doesn’t make any attempt to explain how much Reddit are actually charging and why it’s apparently so “unreasonable”, or what a “reasonable” amount would be. How much would it work out at per average user per week, for example?
I recently switched to Apollo after noticing that my phone would get very hot and the battery percentage dropping quickly after using the Reddit app even with the phone locked. The battery panel would report the reddit app using 40%. After switching to Apollo my phone was fine again. Now I'm not sure what I'll do. I may attempt to go back. I did grow to like Apollo better. It at least honors the system font setting and doesn't give my aging eyes the middle finger.
I don’t think so. If it’s reddits API I think they are free to charge whatever they want. Same as Apple is free to charge for their MFI certification or Google for Android
Elon should buy Reddit.
I bought Apollo, and I am not going to ask for a refund. This is not Apollo's fault, so I'm not going to penalize the developer for some idiotic decision made by C-level suites.
Seriously, Reddit should buy Apollo, and make it their official application. Pay the dev a couple of million bucks and everyone is happy.
I've seen a lot of people complaining they are closing their Reddit accounts either as a tantrum fit or in solidarity with the "cause". This happened at Twitter too, and ok Twitter lost 10k people and Mastodon picked them all up and it's been great. But Twitter is chugging along nicely after all of that.
Which federated platforms are people thinking of using after they furiously leave Reddit? I found a few:
https://getaether.net/
https://lemmy.ml
https://kbin.social/
Also why not Mastodon?
I bought Apollo, and I am not going to ask for a refund. This is not Apollo's fault, so I'm not going to penalize the developer for some idiotic decision made by C-level suites.
Seriously, Reddit should buy Apollo, and make it their official application. Pay the dev a couple of million bucks and everyone is happy.
I've seen a lot of people complaining they are closing their Reddit accounts either as a tantrum fit or in solidarity with the "cause". This happened at Twitter too, and ok Twitter lost 10k people and Mastodon picked them all up and it's been great. But Twitter is chugging along nicely after all of that.
Which federated platforms are people thinking of using after they furiously leave Reddit? I found a few:
https://getaether.net/
https://lemmy.ml
https://kbin.social/
Also why not Mastodon?
I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit does buy Apollo and integrates most of its functionality into the Reddit UI itself.
I am still surprised what kind of monkeys are working at Reddit, if even after 15 years they are not able to create a good and optimized app, while almost one guy alone makes one of the best apps for iOS. Apollo feels like an Apple App as no one else.
Apollo offered to sell and Reddit spun that into a slanderous lie that the Apollo dev was trying to blackmail them. It's included in his announcement post including audio proof that he was offering to sell, not blackmail.