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Porsche owners don’t exclusively buy Porsches for speed. I’d say it’s more exclusivity and luxury
Being able to sleep in the car when you're too tired to drive is a luxury.

If you have spent time driving a Tesla and a comparable Porsche, you’ll find the material choices and attention to detail are another level.

Taycan sales halved in 2024.
 
Being able to sleep in the car when you're too tired to drive is a luxury.



Taycan sales halved in 2024.

It’s a luxury clearly YOU care about. It also doesn’t exist yet. If that’s what YOU care about, then purchase your car accordingly.

Tesla sales don’t necessarily have a positive angle either. Its two different customers - it doesn’t mean either customer is “more right” than the other
 
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My next car will be a 911. If they implement instrument clusters anything like that one concept designer came up with (can’t remember his name but MR posted an article), it’s going to be an excellent experience.
 
Well, well, well @Veinticinco
😅 not buying it for one second.

Worth remembering Mauer is chief designer of VW Group as well as Porsche. And yet Audi have come out and vetoed CPU.

Strange? Not really. This doesn’t fall under his remit. Proof?


… In addition, the newly formed team will deal with the requirements for, and the integration of, third-party ecosystems into the vehicle. Sajjad Khan has his office at the Porsche Development Centre in Weissach. In close cooperation with Michael Steiner, Member of the Executive Board for Research and Development, it is from here that he will be helping shape Porsche’s digital future.

Yeah, no…Mauer’s either out of the loop or perhaps been given a nudge in the ribs to act as a patsy to try and help stem the bleeding, with a fairly non-committal statement that Porsche can always walk back anytime. This is akin to the dreaded kiss of death statement put out by sports team owners “we remain committed to Steve the team’s manager” before the CEO wields the axe not long after.
 
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The demos I have seen suggest that punch-through works differently. If you click on a lighting control button and get to your car’s interface for choosing lighting options, that’s punch through. By contrast, Apple seems to set the cockpit options but will work with manufacturers to incorporate brand-specific elements.

If Apple wants to get manufacturers on board, it likely will have to do much more of the latter.
They went into the architecture of the new Carplay last year. It’s called local UI, which the gauges are basically rendered on the car and displayed right on the car’s displays but basically echoed back to the iPhone.
They go into local UI here at 4:07: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2024/10111/
 
Taycan sales halved in 2024.
Do you know why? Resale values tanked. You can’t give Taycan’s away. Porsche drivers still want an ICE (or at the very least, hybrid tech). Their entire brand is built upon heritage and racing, and as nice as it looked, it just doesn’t stir the emotions of their main demographic of buyers. Same issue with its sibling at Audi, the e-tron GT.

Porsche owners don’t exclusively buy Porsches for speed. I’d say it’s more exclusivity and luxury. If you have spent time driving a Tesla and a comparable Porsche, you’ll find the material choices and attention to detail are another level. You may not value it, and you may prefer the “tech” of the Tesla, but Porsche exists because enough people value the material and other package choices.
Don’t forget the heritage/pedigree dating back 70+ years, allied with timeless design alongside modern tech, and what the brand is synonymous with. Racing, specifically Le Mans. And the strong emotional feeling that comes with driving most models (not the EVs).
 
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You don't get to say one thing is only me caring about and say another thing that most others care about without hard data.

I’m literally just saying there are different consumers. You clearly deeply desire the value proposition Tesla provides. I’m simply stating there is an entirely other group of consumers that dislike Tesla’s direction or find value in qualities that Tesla doesn’t prioritize.

I really dislike Tesla’s products, but it doesn’t mean it can’t be a good car. I think Tesla sells well because of the “range to price” value. And I think the next 5 years will be telling
 
I’m literally just saying there are different consumers.

You're talking as if it's only me that cares about this when I point out a detail, but then you try to frame it as if the general consumers like another thing.

You clearly deeply desire the value proposition Tesla provides.

Not just me.

I’m simply stating there is an entirely other group of consumers that dislike Tesla’s direction

And there's an entirely other group of consumers that like Tesla's direction and willing to jump ship over to Tesla.
 
It's amazing the grip AirPower has on people; Apple pivoted to using magnets for alignment so AirPower's days were always numbered.

Meanwhile Apple's history is littered with concepts and various products which ultimately never made it to production.
It’s almost as though it holds a power, or there’s something in the air 🤔
 
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That's pretty much what went through my mind when seeing this article. It's one thing to have an occasional glitch on the infotainment software, but a glitch on a driver display could be a severe legal liability.
Instrunment cluster esecpally for the display the speed and telltale, it has a very strict requirement as a part of safety.
 
If you have experience with instrument cluster development, you’ll know about the importance of "functional safety." I doubt that Apple CarPlay can fully meet these standards, whereas automakers strictly adhere to them.
I am very much sure that Apple CarPlay Ultra meets these standards for premium car manufacturers like Aston Martin and Porsche to include them in their cars, as well as Kia, Hyundai and Genesis. Not one car manufacturer has said this is the issue why they don't want or hesitant to adopt Apple CarPlay Ultra.
 
I’m sure that the EU’s going to do something about these companies’ anticompetitive behavior. OH, wait, what they’ll ACTUALLY do is say that, since Apple has a monopoly on Apple CarPlay, they need to give it away for free to all the car makers. Silly me.
 
I am very much sure that Apple CarPlay Ultra meets these standards for premium car manufacturers like Aston Martin and Porsche to include them in their cars, as well as Kia, Hyundai and Genesis. Not one car manufacturer has said this is the issue why they don't want or hesitant to adopt Apple CarPlay Ultra.
Youp, it’s just about the pile of money they foresee them getting their hands on by selling the data to data brokers.
 
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Being able to sleep in the car when you're too tired to drive is a luxury.



Taycan sales halved in 2024.

1. There is no Tesla that enables you to do this. We are now going on 11 years of fully broken promises on capability (the Austin "Robo" taxi is looking downright dangerous, driving on the wrong side of the road, stopping suddenly for no reason...) and 9 from the clear and obvious "you can summon from NYC if you're in LA," none of which is remotely possible.

2. Taycan sales dropped in 2024 due to leases ending and the CPO/used market exploding. I see more Taycans than I see Model S or X combined, and both of those had a significant lead on numbers. In the US, Taycan sales dropped from about 8K to 6K from 2023 to 24. Meanwhile Tesla stopped breaking out the S and X in delivery reports...
 
Tesla was busy switching over to new Model Y production in may

"Tesla sales in June in 🇪🇺 Europe now twice as big as VWs and Model Y sales now more than 3 times as big as the next non-Tesla BEV."

I dunno, do you want to look for more recent data than that? 😉
 
You have absolutely no idea why people buy a Porsche, do you?

I do.

1. There is no Tesla that enables you to do this.

Robotaxis in austin.

(the Austin "Robo" taxi is looking downright dangerous, driving on the wrong side of the road, stopping suddenly for no reason...)

like Waymo.

Despite this, Waymo is still running without a driver fyi. If Waymo can continue doing this, Tesla robotaxi will be just fine.

I see more Taycans than I see Model S or X combined

Anecdotal evidence means nothing.

Meanwhile Tesla stopped breaking out the S and X in delivery reports...

Dwarfed by 3/Y sales, the actual money makers.
 
CarPlay Ultra would be a perfect compliment to the new Volvo EVs. They're really missing out on a vastly better customer experience. Their current UI is basically a giant Android phone screen.
 
Looks like CarPlay Ultra is not having a good start. Expecting to see a very slow rollout but the biggest question is when will it start!
 
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