Porsche Still Has No Imminent Plans to Launch Next-Generation CarPlay Despite 2023 Preview

[godorowski]

I have WV Tiguan 2 that have Carplay and Android Auto.

I had Pixel phone - Android Auto was awesome.
I have Iphone - Carplay is... almost the same experience xD

Car makers see this and they dont give a flying f about both because modern cars have good system even with dumb phone connected by bluetooth..

 

[Kurtz van Nosferatu]

I don’t buy a car if it doesn’t have CarPlay.

Once you go CarPlay you can never go back. Assume the same is with AndroidAuto.

Except if you own a Tesla. I was very disappointed to learn that my new Model 3 didn’t have CarPlay, because I got used to it in my previous BMW 3. But, Tesla software is light years ahead compared to CarPlay. And there is a very neat native integration with Apple apps such as Music or Podcasts.

 

[itsthenewdc]

I wouldn’t buy a $250K Porsche if the dashboard looked the same as a cheap Chevy Bolt, for example.

Apple is a premium brand, so maybe look at it as the Chevy looks the same as the more expensive Porsche

 

[sdz]

Apple is a premium brand, so maybe look at it as the Chevy looks the same as the more expensive Porsche

I mean they talk about their logo colours like it is something.

 

[CrysisDeu]

told you, carplay 2 will fail miserably. Apple needs their own car to be competitive in the car OS

 

[Kottu]

I don’t need any deeply integrated CarPlay in my vehicle. Enough with maps, more apps and a proper voice assistant. It’s not necessary for me to have ’Pride’ inspired background in my instrument cluster. As we all know, voice assistants in cars really suck ( just like Siri) so, CarPlay with updated siri, options to install and run any apps I like. These are my wishes.

 

[xraydoc]

told you, carplay 2 will fail miserably. Apple needs their own car to be competitive in the car OS

What Apple needs to do (and they won't, which is fine with me) is allow the car manufacturers to harvest user data from the CarPlay integrations. I'm certain that's why some manufacturers won't allow CarPlay -- no money in it for them. Google doesn't seem to care what happens to users' data. Apple, on the other hand, tends to have user's privacy in mind, or at least has the appearance of doing so, before they allow certain things. And I'm pretty sure they've told some of the car manufacturers that they can't have certain data that they've wanted.

 

[seek3r]

I’m affraid Apple’s closed CarPlay system will go the same route as tv’s. Nobody wants to get dependent on Apple by Apple rules. That’s why most TV’s run some sort of Android. LG has its own WebOS (which is great by the way).

If Apple wants a bigger part of the automotive business they have to learn to play nice with them. But I’m afraid Apple is too late for that already and Android has been the system of choice for most.

Apple’s never tried to license an os for tvs…

WebOS btw is the last remnants of Palm and LG having it is the result of HP totally screwing up their acquisition of Palm. Yes, I’m still salty

 

[FineWoven]

Disagree. Went Tesla and went back. I don't think I'd ever go back.

Ah so you’re the one.

 

[capamac]

I've seen cars with displays like these.
I'm not a fan.
They're too bright.
The touch UI is a disaster.
The information portrayed is often fairly useless.
They should just use analog gauges, as they get the job done, look way classier and are more coherent with the overall vehicle design.

 

[bmark]

Next Gen Car Play is dead on arrival! Car manufacturers have zero incentive to support it.

 

[scrapesleon]

Porsche probably making their own CarPlay to move away from Apple system

 

[Supercyborgninja]

Consumers continuing to say "BUT CAR BRANDS DONT HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS..!"

is SO weird and wild.

Why are you fighting FOR car brands to sell you $10,000+ products and THEN steal your data?! That's SUPER odd lol.

I mean: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p...t-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

 

[Tovenaar]

As a Porsche owner I would appreciate a little more integration (for example, I'd like to see the CarPlay map in the instrument cluster), and I know this is happening (e.g. in the new Macan). But I don't think I would like full CarPlay integration.

I've seen some of the developer videos on the new CarPlay experience and the customizability is very limited. So ultimately it will look more Apple than Porsche no matter how much you customize it. I'm sure Porsche is not excited to lose control of its dashboard, obviously an important space for car branding.

Having said that Porsche really need to step up their software and UI/UX game. It's honestly terrible for such a premium brand, and even bad compared to non-premium brands.

 

[DoctorMesmer]

I don’t buy a car if it doesn’t have CarPlay.

Once you go CarPlay you can never go back. Assume the same is with AndroidAuto.

I agree – and I’ve used both in the past couple of years.
However, an advantage Android Auto has over CarPlay is that Google will answer questions while you’re driving on AA, whereas CarPlay refuses (presumably on the grounds of driver distraction/safety).
This is probably right, given that Siri would almost certainly get things wrong and you’d end up frustrated and distracted, whilst with AA, it’s just like asking a passenger a question as it will understand and give you a simple, direct answer (most times).
As someone whose use-case necessitated a return from Android to iOS after a few years out, Siri is a major embarrassment and leaves you wondering how Apple could have fallen so far behind.
Ah well…fingers crossed for Apple Intelligence.

 

[9081094]

Both those TV operating systems you mention have or are going to be injecting Ads into them. Apple very much as a place for people who do not want that.

I have never seen an ad on my TV. Wasn’t there an article here that Apple also is investigating of showing ads?

 

[9081094]

Apple is a premium brand, so maybe look at it as the Chevy looks the same as the more expensive Porsche

Apple sells its gear at premium prices but if you take a look over their walled garden, you will notice that other brands have come a long way. Most of the competitors copied Apple’s look and feel, offer better specifications for much lower prices. And Apple’s software is scrambling to keep up with the “darkside”. I think they’re one to two years behind now and that gap is widening.

 

[diamond.g]

Consumers continuing to say "BUT CAR BRANDS DONT HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS..!"

is SO weird and wild.

Why are you fighting FOR car brands to sell you $10,000+ products and THEN steal your data?! That's SUPER odd lol.

I mean: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/p...t-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

Porsche doesn't appear to be on their list of tested manufacturers.

 

[ke-iron]

I don’t see the benefit of auto manufacturers adopting the latest version of CarPlay, especially luxury brands. It would only serve to reduce their brand identity and perceived uniqueness. I wouldn’t buy a $250K Porsche if the dashboard looked the same as a cheap Chevy Bolt, for example.

Except that it won’t look the same because it would be customized by the car manufacturer.

 

[kamyk35]

In late 2023, Porsche previewed what next-generation CarPlay could look like in its vehicles, with a pair of images showing a custom instrument cluster and more. However, the luxury automaker has yet to release any vehicles that support the software nearly a year later, and it sounds like it still has no imminent plans to do so.

A spokesperson for Porsche today informed MacRumors that the automaker plans to maintain its current level of CarPlay integration in the "near term." Porsche supports standard CarPlay, and while some of its vehicles like the Taycan offer additional features like EV routing in Apple Maps, that is not next-generation CarPlay.

Aston Martin also previewed its next-generation CarPlay design alongside Porsche last year, but it has yet to release any vehicles that support the system.

Apple's website continues to say that the first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay support will "arrive in 2024," but no vehicles support the software yet. Apple and automakers have just over a month remaining to meet that 2024 timeframe.

Apple first previewed next-generation CarPlay in June 2022, promising deeper integration with the instrument cluster and climate controls, support for multiple displays across the dashboard, a dedicated FM radio app, widgets, and more. The interface can be tailored to each specific vehicle model and automaker's brand identity.

When it unveiled next-generation CarPlay, Apple said committed automakers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Porsche, Renault, and Volvo. Nearly two and a half years have gone by since Apple shared that list, however, so it is unclear if it remains fully accurate.

It is still very possible that next-generation CarPlay ends up launching this December, and recent activity suggests that Apple is still making preparations. Earlier this month, a few redesigned next-generation CarPlay icons appeared in iOS 18.2 beta code, and Apple filed to protect its next-generation CarPlay designs in the European Union.

Apple has been adding next-generation CarPlay references to iOS since iOS 17, so it is unclear what the minimum iOS version requirement will be for the system. In any case, we expect iOS 18.2 to be released on December 9. Hopefully, Apple will finally announce next-generation CarPlay availability details at some point next month.

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I suspect Apple is asking for too much control with the new car play, if I'm honest the only thing that's missing with the current car play is, maps integrated with HUD and the limit of only 10 missed calls showing is beyond a joke, more languages for Siri, Especially in the EU and that would make it perfect with the new Siri.

 

[kamyk35]

I don’t see the benefit of auto manufacturers adopting the latest version of CarPlay, especially luxury brands. It would only serve to reduce their brand identity and perceived uniqueness. I wouldn’t buy a $250K Porsche if the dashboard looked the same as a cheap Chevy Bolt, for example.

The reason they don't want to adopt it is because they can't then charge subscriptions for their own compromised software packages, I would be quite happy if a manufacturer wanted to charge for the new car play as an option and BTW, each manufacturer, can customize how it looks in their vehicle.

 

[oldwatery]

Car play is very important to me here in Panama as it is essential for using Waze. But it is not perfect by any means and the thought of having it control more of the native functions or displays on my vehicle would not be anything I desire or need. Ironically just yesterday it took me several hours to get it linked to my BMW after something changed on my phone that I did not see or instigate. I truly do not understand why anyone would want Apple running their vehicles functions.

 

[diamond.g]

The reason they don't want to adopt it is because they can't then charge subscriptions for their own compromised software packages, I would be quite happy if a manufacturer wanted to charge for the new car play as an option and BTW, each manufacturer, can customize how it looks in their vehicle.

BMW got roasted for charging for CarPlay 1.0 I don't see how folks would see 2.0 differently enough to be willing to be charged extra for it. Especially since I am not sure you can flip between the two versions.

 

[kingtj1971]

Disagree. Went Tesla and went back. I don't think I'd ever go back.

I owned 3 Teslas over the years and I really like the level of integration they had with everything they offered. Problem is, they don't always partner with all the services people would like to use while in the vehicle -- and depending on the service? The apps were pretty buggy and unreliable.

For example? Tesla always came with support for TuneIn streaming radio. But the user experience with it was pretty bad. I had it repeatedly lose/forget my preset favorite stations and it often had connection issues. Sometimes I had to just reboot the whole entertainment system on the Tesla to get it working properly again.

I'm also a believer in the idea that some things are best kept as their own physical buttons, switches or knobs. That's one place I think Tesla has been making mistakes in recent years. The older vehicles of theirs had things pretty much right, IMO. But going to things like no more physical shifter to change gears between park, reverse, neutral and drive? That's just awkward.

 

[dontwalkhand]

People said the same about Apple Pay and here we are today.

How long did Apple Pay take to get to fruition in the US? Moreso, how long did it take regular CarPlay to gain traction?