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Lol. Do you realize that many (maybe most) pro apps will not be compatible with Leopard the day of release? It usually takes many months after an OS release before companies release updates for their products to run on the new OS. Can you imagine a pro upgrading his Mac Pro and being forced onto a new OS and HOPE that his apps run ok in it. I doubt Mac will force Leopard.

Only regurgitating what I have heard - don't shoot the messeger :0

Nice name btw
 
do we expect upgraded acd's to come out at the same time? And if not then when?

Yea they need to produce some half decent displays...waay over priced and quality it horrible, at the store the brightness was very uneven (checked with a middle gray wallpaper).
 
You are in a different position than most having spent the $1500 for the 3.0 Ghz Clovertown CPUs. Call it poor, cheap whatever you want, but as a college student I find that it makes more sense to save money. Especially $1500. Because, if all the thoughts here are correct an all octo Mac Pro (whenever the update comes) would be a lot cheaper than $1500, on top of the $2500, in fact, an octo could come in at $2500. Assuming they use the 2.83Ghz chips in the base model, that Mac Pro will perform as good or better than yours, for $1500 less. Sure you may have made that money back. Kudos. But I don't make that much on my jobs as I simply don't have the time to do large and high paying ones.

Anyhow, my point is that you aren't the norm. Most people are shelling out that much for a Mac Pro. Maybe because they don't have, maybe because they don't think it is smart. Whatever. But simply reducing the new Mac Pro to 20% faster is ignoring the majority who would buy the base model, in which case the performance increase is monster.

Sure. I'm just stating that no one "has" to wait, but if you "can" you should wait. If you can't and need one ASAP, you can't go wrong with these computers.

Either way, Moore's Law still applies here...there will always be bigger and better things a few months after you purchase something. That's a fact.

But saying that it is a "poor decision" to buy one right now is just ridiculous. Maybe for someone like you it is (a nitpicker who needs to squeeze out every penny), but people who run a business and need a Mac Pro ASAP, they can just get the top of the line one right now. Grab a Refurb and save some dough. When I bought my 8 Core, there were no refurbs, or else I would've gotten it.
 
Sure. I'm just stating that no one "has" to wait, but if you "can" you should wait. If you can't and need one ASAP, you can't go wrong with these computers.

Either way, Moore's Law still applies here...there will always be bigger and better things a few months after you purchase something. That's a fact.

But saying that it is a "poor decision" to buy one right now is just ridiculous. Maybe for someone like you it is (a nitpicker who needs to squeeze out every penny), but people who run a business and need a Mac Pro ASAP, they can just get the top of the line one right now. Grab a Refurb and save some dough. When I bought my 8 Core, there were no refurbs, or else I would've gotten it.

If a nitpicker is someone who wants value for my money. I am fine with that. I may not run a business, but if I did. I would still attempt to do the same thing. Make smart decisions that will extend the life of my machines and save money.

You are sitting on CPUs sucking 300W and are terribly inefficient compared to Harpertown, at just 160W for two. Tell me this, if I had say, 20 of these things would that not save me money in energy?

Do I think it is a poor decision. Hell yeah. But I am not going to open up the arguments of old. We will leave it at that.
 
If a nitpicker is someone who wants value for my money. I am fine with that. I may not run a business, but if I did. I would still attempt to do the same thing. Make smart decisions that will extend the life of my machines and save money.

You are sitting on CPUs sucking 300W and are terribly inefficient compared to Harpertown, at just 160W for two. Tell me this, if I had say, 20 of these things would that not save me money in energy?

Do I think it is a poor decision. Hell yeah. But I am not going to open up the arguments of old. We will leave it at that.

If your older computer was not capable of handling new things, then it was time for an upgrade. I was in that category. I did alot of research before buying it, mind you. It was not a poor decision by me because I could not hold out. I already made enough money with it to buy another Mac Pro if needed (and more).

As far as energy, I don't really care. My electricity is included in my suites monthly bill (read: it's on my landlord).

Stop whining and wait for your measily base model to be "upgraded".
 
If your older computer was not capable of handling new things, then it was time for an upgrade. I was in that category. I did alot of research before buying it, mind you. It was not a poor decision by me because I could not hold out. I already made enough money with it to buy another Mac Pro if needed (and more).

As far as energy, I don't really care. My electricity is included in my suites monthly bill (read: it's on my landlord).

That is fine. You also bought yours some time ago. Lets say you didn't and were due for an update say... now. Would you buy a Mac Pro right now?

Included in the bill is quite simple to understand. No need for the read as note.

I see you added some more. Stop whining? Please tell me where you see whining. Can't say I didn't expect that from you though. Grow up.

I will wait for my base model because it will be better than yours and much cheaper than what you paid. Sounds like a deal to me.
 
That is fine. You also bought yours some time ago. Lets say you didn't and were due for an update say... now. Would you buy a Mac Pro right now?

Personally, I have a feeling it's only a few months away, so if I could hold out I would. I recommended someone else to hold out in another thread.

I will wait for my base model because it will be better than yours and much cheaper than what you paid. Sounds like a deal to me.

How pathetic. "Mine is better than yours"...I highly doubt they will be offering the 3.0Ghz Octo as "base". Probably the Dual Cores @ 3.0Ghz will be base with 2GB RAM, the octos will be in the mid range.

Have fun with your computer, which will be much slower than mine (yeah, had to throw in the teenage insult).
 
Personally, I have a feeling it's only a few months away, so if I could hold out I would. I recommended someone else to hold out in another thread.

How pathetic. "Mine is better than yours"...I highly doubt they will be offering the 3.0Ghz Octo as "base". Probably the Dual Cores @ 3.0Ghz will be base with 2GB RAM, the octos will be in the mid range.

Have fun with your computer, which will be much slower than mine (yeah, had to throw in the teenage insult).

Not only have you seen the future to know it won't be better (naturally ignoring all the current evidence of an all octo-core line), you ignore your own claims about my future computer. "Measly base model." So please, tell me who is pathetic here? The "teenage insults" began on your end.

Also, my response to those inquiring about the Mac Pro has always been the standard one. If you can wait, wait. If you can't buy. Simple as that.
 
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