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Possibility of releasing a 'fixed' iPhone 4 soon?

whocaresit said:
Yes. September 30th
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Thanks for the large, bold print. I didn't have to use my glasses this time! :D

Anyway, a "fixed" iPhone, as you would call it, won't happen until next year's WWDC when the next iPhone (fifth-generation) is announced. I don't have a problem. Lots of people don't. Neither should the OP. ;)
 
Apple... said:
Thanks for the large, bold print. I didn't have to use my glasses this time! :D

Anyway, a "fixed" iPhone, as you would call it, won't happen until next year's WWDC when the next iPhone (fifth-generation) is announced. I don't have a problem. Lots of people don't. Neither should the OP. ;)
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Plus, I think that the whole media-frenzy has died down at this point. If Apple redesigned and released a new iPhone earlier than next summer, the media-frenzy would be back. I don't think that they enjoyed the bad PR and wouldn't do anything to stir it up again.

I think that they've done their best to support their point that the issue is occurring on other smartphones and isn't isolated to the iPhone. At this point, the best way to fix the "problem" is for AT&T to improve their network.

That being said, I haven't experienced a dropped call on my iP4, and I have no issues with AT&T's network here in LA.
 
samcraig said:
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

For one - the antenna issue is a problem for some. How many - who is to say anymore than how many are encountering your issues. Don't dismiss other people's issues if you expect to have yours "validated"

Second - the issues you relay you are having ARE software issues. Do you KNOW the difference between a hardware issue and a software issue?

Third - No software update is going to fix the antenna issue. Did you even listen or read about Apple's press conference? The issue is physics and a physical issue - nothing that can be "fixed" by software. Apple has only released a fix to how the bars are displayed. It's a visual "trick" and nothing more.

Wow.... the perpetuation of false and inaccurate information you're spreading is amazing.
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i don't have the antenna issue and neither to 20 people i know personally that have the iphone 4... yes it is an issue, but its a minority of like 1% of people that have it, the media just blew it out of proportion as per usual. the bigger issue affecting people is the proximity sensor issue, which it sounds like is being solved with 4.1.

plus the visual "trick" you talk about with the bar actually shows less bars, not more bars, so thats not a fix or a fake fix for the antenna issue, its a fix for the antenna REPORTING issue.

samcraig said:
Not to mention - Apple themselves said that there is a loss of signal when held a certain way. And they also said other phones experience the same. So to say there's no issue or that there's nothing wrong. You could argue there's nothing MORE wrong. But again, I would disagree based on several experiences I have seen and read.
They actually said that it was in a small percentage of the units sold. or did you choose to 'forget' that part of the press conference.....
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My iPhone signal drops, at most, two bars when held naked in my left hand.

It really depends on your location and signal strength. (Yes I'm running 4.0.1)
 
chembox said:
My iPhone signal drops, at most, two bars when held naked in my left hand.

It really depends on your location and signal strength. (Yes I'm running 4.0.1)
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i'm in a low signal area, i cover the magic place on the phone, no change, same in strong signal area, i have no issue. so its not all phones, just some.
 
Chance of happening.......zero.

It would be akin to announcing a mass recall as everyone who bought one wants the "fixed version".

If I were apple i'd just silently add coating or some other minor tweak and NOT TELL ANYONE.

What, iPhones manufactured in August onwards have fewer reported issues? That's weird....... ;)
 
Really how is it possible that we are still here? No matter how many people say they have no problems and the phone is great we continue to listen to this vocal minority completely out the the context of the network strength in their area. When is the survey going to come that overlaps AT&T network strength geographically with iPhone 4 problems reported. Is there any doubt what it will show.
It's the best device I have ever had and no one I know has a problem.
It is light years forward from the 3G. Buy it.
 
getatkyill said:
I've had numerous problems EXCEPT the antenna issue..its not real, don't believe the press and all its nonsense. But for problems..my iPhone 4 would crash and turn off randomly almost every night (only could be powered by plugging in phone to wall charger and holding down home+sleep button). Also, sometimes when my texts came in or I was going to send a text ..the persons name or number would disappear from the top and would not let me bring up the keyboard. None of it was software issues..just the phone.

Anyways, brought it back and on my 2nd iPhone 4 which I feel could about but now there is a dead pixel on the screen that is quite noticeable so looks like I'll be bringing back for my 3rd. Soooo be prepared possibly for that, forget the antenna..they've updated and fixed problems through software updates.
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apple has admitted to the antenna flaw. they fired the guy who designed it.

hold your finger over the slit on the left side of your phone. i guarantee you lose service. it takes a moment to register. i just got my phone this week and the problem is readily apparent
 
samcraig said:
That's nice. That's your experience. Other people experience something different. That doesn't make your scenario fact.

Not to mention - Apple themselves said that there is a loss of signal when held a certain way. And they also said other phones experience the same. So to say there's no issue or that there's nothing wrong. You could argue there's nothing MORE wrong. But again, I would disagree based on several experiences I have seen and read.

The problem with this discussion is that some people want to take their experience and make it the "rule." There are no sides. Some people experience issues - some people don't. That applies to Antennas, screens, software, etc.
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I agree with samcraig, it cracks me up that people who claim that their phone doesn't have the antenna issue means that no one else has it and that it's a total fabrication. Geeze!
 
jasonforisrael said:
apple has admitted to the antenna flaw. they fired the guy who designed it.

hold your finger over the slit on the left side of your phone. i guarantee you lose service. it takes a moment to register. i just got my phone this week and the problem is readily apparent
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Yes and Obama is a muslim

You must believe every unfound rumor you hear


Here in California, I've tested the phone from San Diego up to Sacramento, and the iphone grip of death never dropped the phone more than 0-2 bars, but never lost signal with my naked iphone

Thanks for the free case complainers, now move on, you are no longer needed.
 
jasonforisrael said:
apple has admitted to the antenna flaw. they fired the guy who designed it.

hold your finger over the slit on the left side of your phone. i guarantee you lose service. it takes a moment to register. i just got my phone this week and the problem is readily apparent
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Your right I just did it and it happened. Of course I did this in an area where the signal from AT&T is so weak that I have actually never been able to make a call from here before with either a Palm Treo, Blackberry or a 3G. My 4 has no problem making calls from here or even streaming video. So it actually seems like the antenna is better. Significantly. Unless of course I make a deliberate attempt to make it fail.
There is no way Papermaster designed this version of the phone. By the time he came to Apple this version was far along.
They admitted that their antenna attenuates the signal like every other antenna when deliberately interfered with.
 
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My signal drops from five bars to "No Service" when I make the mistake of holding my iPhone with my left hand at home. Every other phone I've owned (including a 3G and 3GS) has consistently shown full signal throughout my house, when held in any manner. When I put the iPhone 4 in a case - any case seems to work - it magically shows five bars again. Meaning, the problem is not actually attenuation but detuning by bridging the antennas.

So, yeah. I'd say there's a problem.
 
jasonforisrael said:
apple has admitted to the antenna flaw. they fired the guy who designed it.

hold your finger over the slit on the left side of your phone. i guarantee you lose service. it takes a moment to register. i just got my phone this week and the problem is readily apparent
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I have 3 bars, did the death grip for 5 minutes, no drop, actually went up to 4 bars! Mine is a week 38, got it on 28th July. So as has already been said, does not affect every iPhone 4.
 
Whoa folks. The antenna problem is definitely real, but it doesn't affect every person. However, it affected me because I'm in a "not-so-good" AT&T area apparently but, I never knew that until I got the iPhone 4 because my other AT&T phones and previous iPhone 3G worked fine with full bars almost always. When I got the iPhone 4, I started having problems with dropped calls and NO DATA when my hand came in contact with that area. I never experienced that on a phone before.
 
To those of you who believe the antenna issue is "media hype" or just plain non-existent, please stop dismissing those users who are actually having a problem. I agree that the topic is old and it's time to move on, but the fact is that this truly is a problem for a certain percentage of units that were produced. If you were fortunate enough that your iPhone was not affected by this problem, then I am happy for you (really). Unfortunately, myself and many other customers were not so lucky. So why are there not more people coming forth to complain about this? Well, I can't speak for them but I've only mentioned this online one other time and have never reported the problem to Apple or AT&T because despite this one flaw I love the iPhone 4 and am not willing to switch to another phone or go through the hassle of attempting an exchange that may or may not resolve the issue. Instead, I just bought one of the "naked" cases since I knew I needed a case anyway and this took care of the problem. Didn't even wait for the free case from Apple. A lot of other customers may have done the same thing. The iPhone 4 is the best phone I have ever owned (and my first iphone) so I can easily live with this workaround.

But the problem, whether you believe it exists or not, is there for some people. A number of well-respected new outlets have proven it, and I have been able to accurately re-create the condition myself (placing a finger over the black strip on the left side of the unit, watching the bars drop down to nothing and then increase again once I remove my finger). And this was done outdoors at my office, just a few blocks away from one of AT&T's corporate offices in Charlotte.

Again, I'm not complaining, not trying to add fuel to the fire, and not trying to reignite a tired debate. It's the second, and probably last, time I will post anything about it but I just felt a little exasperation reading the posts that were berating those users who tried to voice their thoughts on the matter. Please have a little more consideration for your fellow forum members and try to be a little more open-minded. Carry on, good people! :D
 
*glances at best phone ever owned*

B-b-b-u-t I dont need a hardware fix, can i opt out :confused:
 
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