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There is not going to up an update to the 9.7 Pro this year... period. If there is an update to the 12.9 Pro, it will be to add those things like TrueTone that were introduced with the 9.7.

Is it possible for the 9.7 Pro to include 4GB RAM next year? Yes, it's possible. The likelihood of that happening really depends upon what Apple does with iOS this year.

you say it with such confidence as if the iPad 4 never happened LMAO
 
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you say it with such confidence as if the iPad 4 never happened LMAO
Once. For a variety of reasons. It is not wise to use the exception case as the basis of a new rule. ;)


we had a 12.9 upgrade within a few months, cant see why anything else isn't possible, even if minor. keeps their money wheel spinning after all.
So you see no distinction between offering an increased storage capacity and a processor upgrade, screen technology, and RAM?

Here's a hint: One is an option, the other is not.
 
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The iPhone 7 has nothing to do with the iPad Pro. People would be just as mad that it has been less than a year and they have already brought out an updated model so either way people will whine about it.

I agree. There is no correlation or connection between the iPad's and the iPhones. Even if the next iPhone has a more powerful processor then the iPads it's neither here nor there. Both products are on different release cycles for one thing.
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you say it with such confidence as if the iPad 4 never happened LMAO

That was more like an exception to the rule rather then the norm. It was primarily done to make the Lightning connector a standard across all iOS devices. Sure Apple could have waited until the following year to introduce it but I suspect they wanted consistency regards the Lightning connector sooner rather then later. I suspect the 128GB storage became viable cost wise and it was an opportunity for them to introduce that as an option. Sure I would have preferred the iPad 4 to come out the following year as I could not justify upgrading to it just six months after getting the iPad 3 but I don't begrudge Apple for doing so. Technology is always improving and moving forward and anyone into it has to expect such upgrades to it.
 
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Once. For a variety of reasons. It is not wise to use the exception case as the basis of a new rule. ;)


there IS NO RULE, there is no set in stone apple release plan, the iPad 4 proves it, but it's not convenient to your argument so you dismiss it


see you November when the iPad 9.7 Pro 2 is released :)
 
there IS NO RULE, there is no set in stone apple release plan, the iPad 4 proves it, but it's not convenient to your argument so you dismiss it
You point to a single instance that doesn't fit the "one release per year" historical trend as "evidence" that it will happen again this year. LOL


see you November when the iPad 9.7 Pro 2 is released :)
It's ok. If I'm correct, it honestly won't mean anything. If you're correct, you'll have bragging rights, I'll give you that. :)
 
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You point to a single instance that doesn't fit the "one release per year" historical trend as "evidence" that it will happen again this year. LOL



It's ok. If I'm correct, it honestly won't mean anything. If you're correct, you'll have bragging rights, I'll give you that. :)

agree to disagree :)
 
The A10 chip might be the first time when the iPhone doesn't become dramatically faster year over year. Chip manufacturing has gotten better, so the iPhone 7 will probably get slightly better battery life and maybe run 10% faster, but it isn't going to be twice as fast as the 6S.

The iPad 4 came out to fix the iPad 3, which was incredibly slow when it launched, and very expensive to manufacture. There is no similar need now.

I think there is a 0% chance of a new 9.7 Pro this year, and maybe put it at 40/60 for whether there is a minor upgrade to the 12.9. I'm leaning towards no update (and possibly no A10X processor at all). But maybe they will replace the iPad Air 2 with an Air 3 running a non-X A10 processor. (that would make sense because it would be a lot cheaper to manufacture than the current Air 2, just like the chip in the iPad 4 was a lot cheaper to manufacture than the massive iPad 3 chip). The original iPad Air had a non-X A7 chip and got excellent battery life. Apple also released an update to the original iPad 2 that used a cheaper, more energy efficient processor and kept selling it for years. I think it is actually very likely that we will see them do that again this year with an Air 3 at the $400 price point.
 
My guess is that one of two things will happen this fall:

1) There will be no iPad upgrades

2) There will be a 12.9 iPad upgrade and an iPad mini upgrade

I think option 2 is definitely possible. When the 9.7 iPad wasn't refreshed last fall it looked like Apple might be moving to a 2 year iPad schedule. But since it got a spring refresh they can still keep up the staggering of processes, moving the mini to an A9 and the larger Pro to the A10, and then upgrading the 9.7 inch again in the Spring. I'm not sure how likely it is that they would upgrade all three since that could put a strain on their supply line of A10 processors, especially since the iPhones will definitely get A10s.
 
The A10 chip might be the first time when the iPhone doesn't become dramatically faster year over year. Chip manufacturing has gotten better, so the iPhone 7 will probably get slightly better battery life and maybe run 10% faster, but it isn't going to be twice as fast as the 6S.

The iPad 4 came out to fix the iPad 3, which was incredibly slow when it launched, and very expensive to manufacture. There is no similar need now.

I think there is a 0% chance of a new 9.7 Pro this year, and maybe put it at 40/60 for whether there is a minor upgrade to the 12.9. I'm leaning towards no update (and possibly no A10X processor at all). But maybe they will replace the iPad Air 2 with an Air 3 running a non-X A10 processor. (that would make sense because it would be a lot cheaper to manufacture than the current Air 2, just like the chip in the iPad 4 was a lot cheaper to manufacture than the massive iPad 3 chip). The original iPad Air had a non-X A7 chip and got excellent battery life. Apple also released an update to the original iPad 2 that used a cheaper, more energy efficient processor and kept selling it for years. I think it is actually very likely that we will see them do that again this year with an Air 3 at the $400 price point.

I agree on the A10 not being much faster than the A9. TSMC will still be on 16nm this fall, not 10nm. The only way an A10X significantly beating the A9X would require apple to add extra core or two like they did with A8X. I don't see that happening as the A9X is already is a very large chip (larger than the tri-core A8X and even BIGGER than a 4 core desktop skylake!)
 
My prediction is that we'll get a Mini and Air upgrade in the fall and the Pro line (both sizes) will be upgraded in March and this will be the release cycle going forward
 
My prediction is that we'll get a Mini and Air upgrade in the fall and the Pro line (both sizes) will be upgraded in March and this will be the release cycle going forward

I think it is the exact opposite.

Next gen Pros with A11X processors are going to come out in Fall 2017.
Next gen Air and Mini with A10, non-X processors will come out in Spring 2017.

Nothing new this year.
 
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I think it is the exact opposite.

Next gen Pros with A11X processors are going to come out in Fall 2017.
Next gen Air and Mini with A10, non-X processors will come out in Spring 2017.

Nothing new this year.

See that very similar but I am not so sure that there will be another Air any more. How would that be different to the iPP without pencil and keyboard? To produce a second 9.7 would be more expensive than to differentiate the 9.7 iPP with optional accessories and RAM sizes to offer a wide range of price levels.....
 
See that very similar but I am not so sure that there will be another Air any more. How would that be different to the iPP without pencil and keyboard? To produce a second 9.7 would be more expensive than to differentiate the 9.7 iPP with optional accessories and RAM sizes to offer a wide range of price levels.....

Apple needs an iPad at the $400 mark because people aren't buying $500 iPads anymore. The Pro is the upsell model and the Air is the one most people will buy.
 
Apple needs an iPad at the $400 mark because people aren't buying $500 iPads anymore. The Pro is the upsell model and the Air is the one most people will buy.

The $400 iPad is the Air 2. If you upgrade that with a better processor and display you have the Pro. I don't see where an iPad Air 3 would fit in between....
 
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