Possible ‘iPad Mini’ Spotted in iOS App Developer Logs

Diiiiips

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Gotta love the people that STILL don't believe it is coming.

Jim Dalrymple has confirmed that there will be an October event for it, that's good enough for me.
 

d0vr

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The only way this will be popular enough is if the price point is $199. Please don't add $129 for LTE it's just apple's price gouging. I think $199 with LTE will just flatten the entire tablet market and apple will increase their domination.

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But i frown upon 1024x768 because clearly you can see apple NOT pushing technology forward but going backwards. You want mass acceptance of 1024x768???
I could see Apple losing the iTouch and replacing it with an iPad mini, especially at $199. It would be fantastic if it includes LTE, but I would be surprised if it does (not that I'm not hoping). There is an upside to having 1024x768 in a mini. It is cheaper to produce and means that backwards compatibility with the iPad 2 will be kept for longer.
 

d0vr

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Yep, and the dock is changing too: 2.5 & 2.6 could just be 'new dock' iPad 2's.
Orrrr... No more iPad 2 being sold and the dock gets replaced at the same time? Two birds, one pad.
 

bushido

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at least it probably wont take what feels likea day to charge unlike my iPad

perfect device for my sis
 

All Taken

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LTE (4G) makes no sense in a iPad mini, because 3G supports already 42 MBit/s via HSDPA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA

LTE increases only the cost of the device, without real benefits for the average customer.
Instead of qouting me, maybe you should quote the person who posted that they want LTE included for $199???? Go on run along and have another read.

Either you don't get sarcasm or you're just out to be the best on the internets :rolleyes:
 

miniroll32

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It will be an iPad Mini with Wi-Fi. No different models, nothing - just a single product. Why? Because to make it affordable (and still retain :apple: tax) they have to get rid of as many features/components and focus on the destined user experience.
 

Zunjine

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I could see Apple losing the iTouch and replacing it with an iPad mini, especially at $199. It would be fantastic if it includes LTE, but I would be surprised if it does (not that I'm not hoping). There is an upside to having 1024x768 in a mini. It is cheaper to produce and means that backwards compatibility with the iPad 2 will be kept for longer.
Do you genuinely see a 7.85 inch tablet as a replacement for a 3.5 inch media player?

I've seen so many statements like this but I genuinely can't get my head around the thinking here. There is no way those two devices are real alternatives to one another. One is a small tablet while the other is a pocket sized media device. One is ideally placed for reading books and magazines, web surfing and watching video while the other is the sweet spot for pocket friendly music consumption and playing Angry Birds.
 

Ryth

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I don't see them doing 2 press events. No point...

Why wait a whole month into Oct when a lot of people have already start XMAS/HOLIDAY shopping...let everyone know what is coming down the pipe the next months before the key selling months.

They will have a BLOWOUT event on Sept 12th with the new iPhone, iPad Mini and iMac...
 

Zunjine

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So potentially inferior hardware wise in every way, yet undoubtedly more expensive than the Nexus 7. Cool.
After so many years and so many examples as to why this is the wrong way to judge value, how are there still people who think this way?
 

mdntcallr

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Why all this negativity? Think of it as a lower priced iPad 2 with a smaller size.
They may eventually come up with a retina display iPad mini when they can produce it at a reasonable cost that can sell at a good profit. Remember, every year, they sell a more capable model at the same price.

You want Apple to push the technology forward and still reduce the price. As someone who has a few shares of Apple, hope they do not go too far in that direction. I want them to be aggressive in price that is consistent with competition but not lower than that just to grab the market share. That game is eventually a loser's game. Look at HP and Dell today.
Agreed the article did take a needlessly negative tact. The author didn't even acknowledge that the new iPad's / aka iPad 3, is really only more powerful enough to drive the retina display. There really wasn't much upgraded besides that, Apple only upgrades the bare minimum. The camera in it isn't new, it is same camera as in the iPhone 4, not even 4s.

I'm sure the iPad mini will be fine. Just not something with leading tech. Most apple products cut a corner here or there in name of keeping costs down and profits up.
 

notjustjay

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Technology isn’t just spec numbers on a list. Technology is what you can DO with something. So many companies are circling the drain because they don’t understand that.
Exactly!

For the naysayers, you have to think beyond the specs. If Apple were to have used any other resolution, what would happen? If they could cram a tiny 2048x1536 retina display in such a small case, they'd have to increase the hardware specs and battery to match, and you've a very expensive Mini. And if they used any other resolution, then NONE of the apps in the app store would work without a rewrite specifically to accommodate the new resolution. That would be a huge pain for developers and for the users, who would say "where are the apps?"

In the end it's the apps that sell the iPad, not the hardware. Apple needs to make sure they all work seamlessly.
 

appahappa

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Of course will the iPad Mini have a resolution of 1024x768. Everything else just doesn't make sense. Doubled resolution isn't technically possible and other smaller resolutions will require all the apps to be modified. 1024x768 on 7" or 8" screen is just fine, pixel density is still much higher than on the original iPad.
 

the8thark

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Gotta love the people that STILL don't believe it is coming.

Jim Dalrymple has confirmed that there will be an October event for it, that's good enough for me.
Gotta love that people still DO believe it's coming.

Actually as of right now the evidence for this coming has grow a little stronger of recent. But still nowhere as much as every other product has had prior to launch.

My feeling now is that an iPad mini is theoretically possible, but highly unlikely.
 

cc3d

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Marco Arment violated the NDA he agreed to

don't think Apple won't yank his chain like a red-headed Samsung step-child for violating the developer NDA!!
 

psac

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My only concern would be that it would be able to run any games (well) that run on the iPad2 now. As long as it fits that requirement, I'll buy one.

I guess that could lead to questions as to how long it would be able to continue run new games after the next gen big iPad comes out in the spring (which would push the 2 to two generations back), but hopefully it will still be good for a while.
 

KnightWRX

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Gotta love that people still DO believe it's coming.

Actually as of right now the evidence for this coming has grow a little stronger of recent. But still nowhere as much as every other product has had prior to launch.

My feeling now is that an iPad mini is theoretically possible, but highly unlikely.
Considering we've had tons of parts leak for the new iPhone and none for this, same as last years tons of 4S part leaks but no "5" parts, just pure speculation, I'd say you're right unfortunately. This is just big wishful thinking at this point.
 

JHankwitz

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Unless they do something with the pixel density to make it look magical, it's just another garbage ipad. I like the the size but I do not like how apple recycles their components like this. There is nothing innovative at all.
When customer's primary 'want' is a smaller screen and a lower price, you have no other choice than to use less expensive components if you still need to make an investor demanded profit margin. Successful companies make products customers are willing to buy. If you think there's a market for a product you consider to not be "just another garbage ipad", create and distribute it yourself. This looks like the opportunity of a lifetime for you.
 

chleuasme

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if they used any other resolution, then NONE of the apps in the app store would work without a rewrite specifically to accommodate the new resolution. That would be a huge pain for developers and for the users, who would say "where are the apps?"

In the end it's the apps that sell the iPad, not the hardware. Apple needs to make sure they all work seamlessly.
Of course will the iPad Mini have a resolution of 1024x768. Everything else just doesn't make sense. Doubled resolution isn't technically possible and other smaller resolutions will require all the apps to be modified.
If not the same resolution, any screen could be able to display scaled version of an app (see iPhone app on iPad, but in this case, this would be iPad apps on the smaller screen of an iPad Mini), and with 4:3 aspect ratio, it's full screen (and a retina screen could smooth the scaling). Nothing obvious to me with the 1024x768 solution.

Work for developers for a better support? well, they don't expect to get the money for free, no?
And wouldn't apps need tweaks anyway, considering being rendered on the 35% smaller surface of a 7.85" screen wouldn't always give good results in term of usability? Everything has to work seamlessly, right?

3 pages of a funny discussion attempt on the forum and a link :D



Can the iPad 2 hardware give a good experience and deal with the pixels of a 1600x1200 screen?
 
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SpyderBite

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Gotta love the people that STILL don't believe it is coming.
It is not about belief. It is about reserving the enthusiasm until it is formally announced. Rumors are fun. But, there are people who see a rumor like this and call it Gospel and then they're heads implode on the pre perceived announcement day when nothing happens or it does not meet their exaggerated expectations.

Life is full of disappointment. There's no point in creating our own.