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we are a loooooong way off from seeing Thunderbolt3/USB-C on the Mac Pro.
this bump will be equivalent to the 2010 mac pro refresh. nothing major, just bumps and spec improvements. E5 V3 CPUs, mmmaybe DDR4 usage, Fury graphics.
we wont be seeing those pop up onto mac pros until the Purley platform is ready which likely wont be until close to end of 2016

Why? the controllers have been launched in september. The spec has been set since January.
 
HaHaHa, Yes this is true! Very expensive. Also, Less likely for a USB-C connectivity addition. Does not make sense to have this with a production system. Defeats the purpose and kills the slick trash can design unless it is located at the bottom of the machine, almost at the desk level.

Someone said earlier in a post that the 2013 model is a "dream machine". Yes...it is. Even if a refresh comes out, the 2013 is still the "dream machine", therefore a 2016 machine would be "heaven". :)

You know Thunderbolt 3 uses USB C connecters right? those 6 current Thunderbolt connectors would just become USB C connecters - or 4 / 2 or something.
 
You know Thunderbolt 3 uses USB C connecters right? those 6 current Thunderbolt connectors would just become USB C connecters - or 4 / 2 or something.

To clarify, the USB-C standard is the connector which is now used by both USB 3.1 and by Thunderbolt. So if the manufacturer cheaped out you could just have USB-C based USB ports, or for a company like Apple you could have 6 USB-C ports that accept either USB or Thunderbolt devices plugged into any of them.
 
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Well I have 43 TBs of expensive clutter connected directly to my Mac pro...

Yeah I have big external media arrays as well. But I like some internal storage. I have 6 drives in my tower and I like it that way. Projects on a Raid Mirror, SSD boot, SSD scratch, Personal stuff, etc…

We all have different needs. The old design accommodated everyone…the new one only alienates.
 
Maybe I should hold out buying a new Mac Pro else Apple block the next OS X from existing Mac as they they did with my G5 quad core and Mac Pro 1,1.
I'm concerned they will eol the existing units again.
 
Maybe I should hold out buying a new Mac Pro else Apple block the next OS X from existing Mac as they they did with my G5 quad core and Mac Pro 1,1.
I'm concerned they will eol the existing units again.

Those were specific architectural changes - and I don't see any of those coming in the next few years.

(i.e. PowerPC -> Intel; 32-bit -> 64 bit).

I don't see a move off of Intel, nor to 128-bit coming soon.
 
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Yeah I have big external media arrays as well. But I like some internal storage. I have 6 drives in my tower and I like it that way. Projects on a Raid Mirror, SSD boot, SSD scratch, Personal stuff, etc…

We all have different needs. The old design accommodated everyone…the new one only alienates.

And what is your external - is that a DAS device?

Thunderbolt connected DAS devices are exactly that - internal devices....

Hard drives - with the exception of massive arrays of storage - have only a few years of life left in them.
 
Those were specific architectural changes - and I don't see any of those coming in the next few years.

(i.e. PowerPC -> Intel; 32-bit -> 64 bit).

I don't see a move off of Intel, nor to 128-bit coming soon.

Maybe a change from i386 to A9 chipset?
 
Maybe a change from i386 to A9 chipset?
Not going to happen, not powerful enough for the full lineup (top to bottom) and they are not going to screw over IBM with the potential in the enterprise (corporations will want to be able to run VMWare/Linux or cough cough VMWare/Windows).

It is at least 2 years away before being able to have ARM based portable "OS X" devices (bitcode installation of applications so the same application can be installed via the store on both Intel and ARM computers without the individual having to care/know). Even then - it would only tend to be used for ultra-portables like the new Macbook (where you don't need to run VMWare/Intel applications).
 
Yeah I have big external media arrays as well. But I like some internal storage. I have 6 drives in my tower and I like it that way. Projects on a Raid Mirror, SSD boot, SSD scratch, Personal stuff, etc…

We all have different needs. The old design accommodated everyone…the new one only alienates.
gut a cmp and put mp + storage inside it?
 
This makes a lot of sense for a new Mac Pro

6 x "HS" USB ports, most likely 6 x 3.1 USB-C ports with Thunderbolt

4 x "SSP" USB ports, might still be USB 3 type A ports

No secret, the names are standard USB terminology.

HS = USB High Speed = USB 2.0. 2 of them have port type 255 which may indicate they are internal. One is for Bluetooth and perhaps the other is the motion controller. (In other Macs, the webcam would be USB attached)

SSP = USB SuperSpeed Plus = USB 3.1
 
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...and people wonder why Jony Ive and Co don't feel the pressure to seek the general population for "advice" on how to design their products? LMAO, this is a joke I know, but the thing is that you can guarantee that someone, somewhere ACTUALLY THINKS THIS IS A GOOD DESIGN.

I'll tell you who understands how to design Apple products; Apple. ;)

That would be a good design if the display were on an entire side of that thing. People are dying to buy a mac they can upgrade.
 
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Maybe it'll come with a monitor?

Nah, we can wait another 4 1/2 years for that.
 
The Mac Pro that you keep on pining over is NOT that expandable -- in fact the Mac Pro 2013 is much more expandable.

That's an awfully misleading statement. The new MP is "more expandable" in your very cherry-picked scenario of Thunderbolt-attached devices. In almost every other way it is less expandable. Fewer CPU sockets, fewer memory sockets, no optical bays, no HDD bays, no PCIe slots, and extremely restrictive GPU choices. And if the new MP had simply kept the same physical design as the classic MP, it would have had all of those advantages plus Thunderbolt attached devices.

There are several advantages to the new MP design. It is smaller in size, uses less power, makes less noise, and has fewer fans that can fail.

But "much more expandable"? No, not without some narrowly defined view of expansion, and even that falls apart compared to what a 2013 MP could have been if they hadn't changed the basic physical design.
 
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