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Nugget said:
Yeah, it's a 2015 fairly well specced. MSRP was $99k after I added all the options (it's easy for things to get out of hand with the check boxes when configuring a Porsche).
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Congrats on the car! You are correct about configuring a Porsche. It's nice to have customization, but it gets out of hand so easily. I really like the RS Spyder wheels, but are they worth $4k? I have no idea.

The interior combo would be the exact same one I'd get. It is beautiful IRL. However, I think I would skip the letter wrapped steering wheel column and mirror, but option up the full-leather interior. Instead of white for the exterior (they use dirt/salt in the winter here), I might option up a Moonlight Blue or try to special order Sapphire Blue (the gorgeous blue off the Macan press pictures)

I've been going back and fourth on what options I want for months. I'm going to option up PASM, but do I also want air suspension? Idk...


It's my first diesel vehicle and I'm really happy with it. The Macan is a much better drive though, especially since it's got PDK and not the old slushy tiptronic like the Cayenne does. If you don't need to tow and would be comfortable in the smaller space of the Macan I'd really encourage you to consider it instead. The Macan is light years beyond the current Cayenne platform when it comes to performance and driving dynamics. I expect the next generation Cayenne will close the gap somewhat, but still probably won't have PDK even then.
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Yeah. I've driven the Macan briefly and it drives like a tall sportscar, but it is super tight inside. I barely fit in the back seat. I've been trying to go back to my local Porsche dealer to see both side by side, but every single Macan is sold/locked. They're sold until late Spring 2015. :eek:

The Cayenne Diesel is nice, but 2015 is just a cosmetic refresh. The menacing headlamps, minor bodywork changes, and the steering wheel out of a 918 Spyder. Underneath it's unchanged from the 2011-2014. It's quiet, handles the crappy roads here with grace and comfort, and I get 30+ MPG highway driving (654 miles range out of one tank). 21mpg towing. It feels deceptively powerful compared to the new Cayenne S (turbo 6) because of the diesel's torque.
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On my X5 diesel, I get low-to-mid 20s. It would be nice to hit that 30mpg mark, but if I'm already spending almost $90k on this Cayenne, why not just get the Cayenne S with the new twin turbo 6 and 420hp? I do long trips frequently and the diesel would be great for the long haul, but I can't help but think the S would be more fun. Or even the new E-hybrid.

As you can tell, I'm beyond confused. Porsche gives us too many options and they're all enticing. :cool:
 
AutoUnion39 said:
Congrats on the car! You are correct about configuring a Porsche. It's nice to have customization, but it gets out of hand so easily. I really like the RS Spyder wheels, but are they worth $4k? I have no idea.
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I specifically wanted smaller wheels. I came really close to sticking with the 18" but ultimately chose to bump up to 19" which was the absolute limit for me. I need the Cayenne to handle bad roads and I need to be able to put proper truck tires on it for towing loads. You get up to the 20" and 21" point and all you're going to find on Tire Rack is Ultra Performance car tires that cost out the wazoo and can't handle towing. Plus the consequent ride quality concessions. I really didn't want to go that direction. A friend of mine has a new Audi Q7 (he needed the third row seating for his brood) and he hates the 21" wheels because he can't find tires he likes and the ride really suffers.

The interior combo would be the exact same one I'd get. It is beautiful IRL. However, I think I would skip the letter wrapped steering wheel column and mirror, but option up the full-leather interior.
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I'm not a fan of the center console decorative trim and dashboard decorative trim in leather. I like the black plastic accents and so I chose to go à la carte on the leather bits to get exactly what I wanted. Definitely the bundles are the more cost-effective approach if you're in a cow-killing mood for the interior.

Instead of white for the exterior (they use dirt/salt in the winter here), I might option up a Moonlight Blue or try to special order Sapphire Blue (the gorgeous blue off the Macan press pictures)
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I'm with you there 100% but my significant other rejected any dark exterior color so white was my second choice. THere's no paint-to-sample available on the Cayenne right now, so you can only choose from what they offer. When I placed the order, they weren't even offering Peridot or Carmine Red (added since then). I might have gone with the red if it had been available. I went with the upsell Carrara White Metallic. It's way less metallic than I was expecting and honestly I don't think it's different enough to justify the cost increase. It barely looks different than the plain white. They'd have to be side-by-side before you'd even guess they weren't the same.

On my X5 diesel, I get low-to-mid 20s. It would be nice to hit that 30mpg mark, but if I'm already spending almost $90k on this Cayenne, why not just get the Cayenne S with the new twin turbo 6 and 420hp? I do long trips frequently and the diesel would be great for the long haul, but I can't help but think the S would be more fun. Or even the new E-hybrid.
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Everyone says the new Hybrid is spectacular, but I've only driven the older one which was less-than-spectacular. The diesel is a perfect fit for me, but I am a little bit disappointed at the things I missed out on by choosing it. Notably you can't get PDCC (worth having), PTV (not bad), four-zone climate control, or rear seat ventilation with the diesel. If I didn't care about towing that might have pushed me into an S. The diesel is a road trip machine in a way that none of the others ones are, though. That's nice in Texas where a "short day trip" is 300 miles one way. :)

As you can tell, I'm beyond confused. Porsche gives us too many options and they're all enticing. :cool:
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Definitely a curse and a blessing.
 
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Nugget said:
I specifically wanted smaller wheels. I came really close to sticking with the 18" but ultimately chose to bump up to 19" which was the absolute limit for me. I need the Cayenne to handle bad roads and I need to be able to put proper truck tires on it for towing loads. You get up to the 20" and 21" point and all you're going to find on Tire Rack is Ultra Performance car tires that cost out the wazoo and can't handle towing. Plus the consequent ride quality concessions. I really didn't want to go that direction. A friend of mine has a new Audi Q7 (he needed the third row seating for his brood) and he hates the 21" wheels because he can't find tires he likes and the ride really suffers.
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You bring up a good point here. The roads around here are also terrible... downright jarring in the winter time. I kept the base 18inch wheels on my X5 because the 19/21s would kill my back... not to mention, quality all seasons were not available. I would need to buy another set of wheels for the winter time. I had 20s on my old Q7 and it was quite the experience. My biggest regret... by far. I bent 2 wheels and the tires were crazy expensive.

I just looked on Tirerack for RS Spyder wheel size... and it's ridiculous how expensive tires are. And I'd need to run a second set for the winter because they're all high performance. The 18s look a little dinky on the Cayenne... might have to compromise to the 19s. They look quite nice too.

I'm with you there 100% but my significant other rejected any dark exterior color so white was my second choice. THere's no paint-to-sample available on the Cayenne right now, so you can only choose from what they offer. When I placed the order, they weren't even offering Peridot or Carmine Red (added since then). I might have gone with the red if it had been available. I went with the upsell Carrara White Metallic. It's way less metallic than I was expecting and honestly I don't think it's different enough to justify the cost increase. It barely looks different than the plain white. They'd have to be side-by-side before you'd even guess they weren't the same.
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That's disappointing to hear. Lexus and Audi make beautiful pearl white metallics. I thought the Porsche metallic white would be similar. Guess not?

I think I'd choose the red too. It's pretty nice. (My X5 is currently red.) And stands out in the sea of black/silver/white/grey German cars around here. I think if I went Carmine Red, I would have to get some black accents on the exterior... such as the wheels.

Everyone says the new Hybrid is spectacular, but I've only driven the older one which was less-than-spectacular.
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It was pretty bad. It's the only variant that my local dealer struggles to sell. They have a leftover 14 on the lot right now for $20k off sticker. The new one is enticing to me because I have a power plug in my parking spot and in Boston, I would use the e range.

The diesel is a perfect fit for me, but I am a little bit disappointed at the things I missed out on by choosing it. Notably you can't get PDCC (worth having), PTV (not bad), four-zone climate control, or rear seat ventilation with the diesel.
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This is true. I would option up 4 zone and rear seat ventilation if I could on the diesel. Another option that doesn't seem to be available is the heated windscreen. You can get it on the petrol models.

PDCC and PTV aren't available on the diesel because it uses a different AWD system to the petrol models.
 
Mine

- 99 Jeep Wrangler Sport
- Have had no major issues in 119,000 miles
- 10/10 I love the old girl
- When and if it dies I'll go looking for a late CJ '85/'86 I like simple things that I can fix.


Wifes

- 2013 118d
- Bought it as a BMW corporate car this summer so no problems.
- 10/10 she likes it more than me I think :eek:
- I'd imagine she'll pick up another 1er in a few years.
 
AutoUnion39 said:
You bring up a good point here. The roads around here are also terrible... downright jarring in the winter time. I kept the base 18inch wheels on my X5 because the 19/21s would kill my back... not to mention, quality all seasons were not available. I would need to buy another set of wheels for the winter time. I had 20s on my old Q7 and it was quite the experience. My biggest regret... by far. I bent 2 wheels and the tires were crazy expensive.
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We had a 4.4i X5 with the 18” wheels vs. the sexier 20”, opted for those because the local BMW dealer had a killer deal on the 4.4i on the lot, but also because of all of your points. Ride quality, travel/weather, etc., especially in the “utility” (or “activity” in BMW parlance) vehicle.

Think I have a few pics somewhere ...
 
lowendlinux said:
Mine

- 99 Jeep Wrangler Sport
- Have had no major issues in 119,000 miles
- 10/10 I love the old girl
- When and if it dies I'll go looking for a late CJ '85/'86 I like simple things that I can fix.


Wifes

- 2013 118d
- Bought it as a BMW corporate car this summer so no problems.
- 10/10 she likes it more than me I think :eek:
- I'd imagine she'll pick up another 1er in a few years.
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I think they're "2ers" now
 
- Year/Make/Model - 2011 Audi R8
- Reliability - A few issues in the first 2months, all done under warranty. 8.5
- Satisfaction from 1-10 - 8
- Next car - Not known yet, but i never keep a car as long as I've had this one.
 
Year/make/mode - 2013/Buick/Verano

Bought a little less than a year ago. No problem of any sort since new.

Rock solid small sedan that is very quiet inside and has a sportier ride than with my previous Buick.
 
Had a 2004 Honda CR-V, which I loved to it's death (at 435,000 miles) when I hit a deer in July and the insurance company totaled it.

Now I have a 2014 CR-V which is great,

10/10 satisfaction: the thing gets great gas mileage (although I do mainly drive on Backroads/country roads, not much idling)

10/10 reliability: I have the 4WD model and haven't had to test it in snow yet (hope I don't really have to), runs great

It's too early to think about a new car yet, this one works just fine...
 
Applefan 2013 said:
Had a 2004 Honda CR-V, which I loved to it's death (at 435,000 miles) when I hit a deer in July and the insurance company totaled it.

Now I have a 2014 CR-V which is great,

10/10 satisfaction: the thing gets great gas mileage (although I do mainly drive on Backroads/country roads, not much idling)

10/10 reliability: I have the 4WD model and haven't had to test it in snow yet (hope I don't really have to), runs great

It's too early to think about a new car yet, this one works just fine...
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I say it constantly: Honda just gets this segment. The Honda, Acura CUVs have the Germans flabbergasted.
 
D.T. said:
Wow!

Though if the deer hadn’t intervened, you would’ve probably gotten another 250K miles out of it :D
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Being that I drive 70 miles each way to work every weekday, it would have only been about 5-6 years until I got a new car. I probably would have sold it to one of my younger cousins then.

And no matter how much we hunt around here, the deer will always be a nuisance, as will the tree-hugers who say that we shouldn't hunt the deer. The problem isn't so much that there are too many deer for the area; it's that much of their forests have been destroyed for homes, giving the illusion of an over-population of deer.
 
2011/Hyundai/Genesis 4.6L
No problems at all, "spirited" driving
9+ - bought it brand new in 2011 from dealer w3k miles on it for $35k
Next car? It may outlast me so we'll see...
30mpg from a 385HP V-8, what's not to like?
 

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Applefan 2013 said:
And no matter how much we hunt around here, the deer will always be a nuisance, as will the tree-hugers who say that we shouldn't hunt the deer. The problem isn't so much that there are too many deer for the area; it's that much of their forests have been destroyed for homes, giving the illusion of an over-population of deer.
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Yeah, we’re going to be in PA in a week, visiting some family, they’re in a pretty rural area outside of Pittsburgh - LOTS of deer, you really have to pay attention (typically over a week we see them several every day in their yard, and usually a few turkeys :D ).

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Gozar said:
what's not to like?
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Your lack of additional photos :D
 
Gozar said:
2011/Hyundai/Genesis 4.6L
No problems at all, "spirited" driving
9+ - bought it brand new in 2011 from dealer w3k miles on it for $35k
Next car? It may outlast me so we'll see...
30mpg from a 385HP V-8, what's not to like?
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Was considering a Genesis after I'm done with my CTS. Great car but I find the interior lacking. Seems fun to drive though?

^ I agree: more photos!
 
MICHAELSD said:
Was considering a Genesis after I'm done with my CTS. Great car but I find the interior lacking. Seems fun to drive though?

^ I agree: more photos!
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I have a blast driving it! I agree the interior is not on par with some of its competition but for the price I am more than happy. I figure it is about 75-80% of an E550 or 550i for about 60% of the price. I have yet to drive the 2015, kinda worried I will like it....
 
Applefan 2013 said:
Had a 2004 Honda CR-V, which I loved to it's death (at 435,000 miles) when I hit a deer in July and the insurance company totaled it.

Now I have a 2014 CR-V which is great,

10/10 satisfaction: the thing gets great gas mileage (although I do mainly drive on Backroads/country roads, not much idling)

10/10 reliability: I have the 4WD model and haven't had to test it in snow yet (hope I don't really have to), runs great

It's too early to think about a new car yet, this one works just fine...
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That's awesome, I recently got rid of my 2006 Honda Ridgeline just because I needed more than 5 seats. It had 150,000 miles on it and still ran great. I ended up buy a 2005 Honda Pilot used with just over 200k miles on it earlier this year and have put about 13k miles on it, and it runs excellent. Wonder how many miles I can go before it needs any major repairs.

Bought it cheap and the check engine light was on so I put new NGK plugs in it removed the intake manifold and cleaned out the carbon buildup and changed the EGR and it runs like butter and the check engine went off.
 
AustinIllini said:
I say it constantly: Honda just gets this segment. The Honda, Acura CUVs have the Germans flabbergasted.
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When it comes to the mainstream market, I think the Japanese have it cornered. Especially Honda and Toyota. Entry level? CRV and RAV4 are fantastic. Mid-size segment? The Highlander is the best in class... by far. Nothing comes close. The new Pilot is around the corner. VW has that stupid little Tiguan and they STILL don't have a 3 row crossover. WTF.

Luxury market is where the Germans dominate. The RDX is complete trash, next to its German rivals... and now the Lexus NX. Interior is low-grade, and its saddled with Honda's inferior AWD system, compared to SHAWD. It's downright hilarious that an almost $40k SUV doesn't have rear ac/heat vents and power telescoping/tilt wheel. MDX isn't bad... but it only sells because it's a good value. Not because it's a good car.

The contrast between Honda and Acura is nuts. I don't know Honda can make so many hits with their brand, but screw up Acura so much.
 
AutoUnion39 said:
Luxury market is where the Germans dominate.
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Not in the midsize SUV market. The Lexus RX and Acura MDX dominate.

The RDX is complete trash, next to its German rivals... and now the Lexus NX. Interior is low-grade, and its saddled with Honda's inferior AWD system, compared to SHAWD. It's downright hilarious that an almost $40k SUV doesn't have rear ac/heat vents and power telescoping/tilt wheel.
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The RDX is due for an upgrade, anyway. After the ILX upgrade next model year, the RDX should be next.

MDX isn't bad... but it only sells because it's a good value. Not because it's a good car.
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This is spoken like someone has never read a review.
C&D: From the producers of the NSX, the most athletic of three-row SUVs. So far.
US News: 2015 Acura MDX Reviews
The MDX is a fantastic car. It takes a pretty amazing car to be a "Good Value" at $50,000.

The contrast between Honda and Acura is nuts. I don't know Honda can make so many hits with their brand, but screw up Acura so much.
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Acura is the value marque in the luxury segment. The base TLX with the 2.4L engine has more standard technology than anything else on the market, and it has arguably the best transmission of any of its competitors (8 spd DCT). The same priced BMW is the 320i, which comes with no standard features and an underpowered 180 hp engine. The same priced Lexus comes with the world's worst V6.

The places where Acura falls short are where they run into Honda on one end and the high end sedan segment.

The ILX was a mistake. They put too much Civic in it and replaced a great car (the TSX) as the entry level market. They used the Civic's ancient hybrid system for the hybrid model as well. In search of "value", they made it too cheap.

The RLX is the more problematic entry. Honda built it on a stretched Accord platform, so you're stuck with FWD standard and while the 290 hp engine is no slouch, all that power to the front wheels is pretty disappointing. The FWD RLX basically killed any interest in the RLX name. This is too bad, though, because the Sport Hybrid RLX uses incredible technology to make it go. The multiple electric motors driven by gasoline power engine system works incredibly well and lives up to Acura's "Advance" slogan, but it's almost too little too late.

The TLX right now is Acura's best Sedan entry, with the SH-AWD V6 and the 8 spd DCT 2.4L I4 standing out in particular.

So what going forward? Honda North America has officially split Acura into its own brand, which is a good start. Honda's new Civic Type R in Europe looks fantastic and introduces the first turbo VTEC engine, which I expect will come to the US in the near future. The MMC ILX coming next year is getting the same 8 spd DCT with the 2.4L I4 standard from the TLX.

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In other news, this looks awesome.

Acura NSX coming to Detroit

 
Bliss……. no car, and have seldom had need for one. Rented or borrowed a car or pick-up on about 4 occasions over the past dozen years. A small 1997 Honda motorcycle, and a bicycle satisfy most of my humble needs.

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The last car I owned cost was a 1982 Honda City, which cost $800 16 years ago….. Got $400 for it a couple of years later. Reliable, and cheap to run @ 35 - 40 mpg. Satisfaction, and probably still had a couple or three good years left in it, but no longer required.
 
Gozar said:
2011/Hyundai/Genesis 4.6L
No problems at all, "spirited" driving
9+ - bought it brand new in 2011 from dealer w3k miles on it for $35k
Next car? It may outlast me so we'll see...
30mpg from a 385HP V-8, what's not to like?
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O'Really ? 30mpg ?

Methinks you are exaggerating a bit.

According to Edmunds, the Genesis 4.6 will get 17/25.

According to Fuelly, people get an avg. of 19.7 mpg in real world driving.

-t
 
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