Potential Apple Watch Ban Issued by U.S. Trade Tribunal in Masimo Patent Battle

[Crowbot]

I have often wondered why the ventral side of the wrist wasn't used, where there is less pigment. The sensors could be embedded in watch bands.

You want as little structure in the way between the emitter and detector. The finger is good because the distance between the elements is ideal. The wrist is good but the hand is subject to movement artifact. Some patients with tremors had to have the forehead sensors.

 

[onenorth]

There was an opinion column in yesterday's NYT about the ITC decision.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/30/...e_code=1.60w.tW5a.D3N5zzliJ_Tt&smid=url-share

It's not surprising that Masimo is challenging Apple in court as Masimo attempts to compete in the smart watch category. They also have a beef from when Apple poached their people.

But it also appears that Masimo admits Apple is using a different technology, which may explain why Apple was never interested in taking a license to Masimo's patents (that and the fact that some of Masimo's patent claims have since been invalidated).

Apple is right about one universal truth in patents: the best way to avoid these legal scrums is to keep innovating. When you fall behind the competition, don't lean too much on your patents to save you. The Masimo patents at issue date back to 2008. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[shpankey]

Because of patent trolls, and their ability to gain legal standing and favorable judgements, I have lost all faith in patent litigation. Very few people have any clue as to the validity of the patent infringement litigation. Most people simply run the case through the filter of their biases and spout opinions based on that.


Anti-capitalism? Apple is guilty.
Anti-big business? Apple is guilty.
Anti-Apple? Apple is guilty.
Apple Fanboy? Apple is not guilty.

I wish we had a good source for unbiased and knowledgable legal opinions on cases like this. If anyone knows one, please let me know.

Hoeg Law?

Richard Hoeg has a great youtube channel.

 

[onenorth]

Hoeg Law?

Richard Hoeg has a great youtube channel.

Might be better to hear from a patent attorney.

The problem here is that Masimo has been talking to the press and Apple isn't, so we're only getting one side of the story.

Practically speaking, a settlement is the most likely outcome. Forbes just published a story where Masimo's CFO is negotiating with Apple in public.