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Moving the goalposts yet again. It's no wonder you think tablets are toys - you don't actually use them for anything that you could already do on your phone. But it's OK, because it's not like you have a choice.

With iOS I can use a tablet for basic things (like you) or I can use a tablet for more complex things. I can choose to use it how I like because I have a wide range of options for Apps. With Android you only do simple things because there are no high-end Apps available. Which is what I've said all along.
Mt tablet usage is very different from my phone usage. I do not use a phone for watching sports, YouTube etc. I also do not use the phone for email or web browsing when at home. I generally do not use the tablet outside of the home (except when on vacation). Thus I do not need it for "complex" things. I have a much more capable desktop for that. The fact that you can use the tablets for complex things does not mean that you should. You just waste your time and get sub par experience.
 
Mt tablet usage is very different from my phone usage. I do not use a phone for watching sports, YouTube etc. I also do not use the phone for email or web browsing when at home. I generally do not use the tablet outside of the home (except when on vacation). Thus I do not need it for "complex" things. I have a much more capable desktop for that. The fact that you can use the tablets for complex things does not mean that you should. You just waste your time and get sub par experience.

I use a desktop, laptop and tablet for various things depending on task. I don't confine myself to a single device and try to do everything on that device. The same reason I own several cars and a truck. I have never claimed a tablet will replace a desktop/laptop. What I have always claimed is this:

Android tablets are useless for all but the most basic/simple tasks. iPads can be used for the mundane tasks or they can be used for more complex tasks running powerful software that simply doesn't exist on Android.

Your usage patterns don't change these facts.
 
Eventually, I’m sure there will be an option other than a smartphone... as far as your ONLY personal computing/communication device.
However, the reason that option does not exist today comes down to expectations and experience... not Apple trying to make more money.
You can’t enjoy consumable content on an Apple Watch (Netflix, YouTube, family photos, etc.), you can’t take photos on an Apple Watch, you can’t easily write posts like this one or respond to emails w/ more than just a word or two, comfortably. You can’t play full fledged games... and so on & so on.
In short. Giving an option of “hey, you can use this INSTEAD of a smartphone... go ahead and get rid of your phone!”

Well, lets start over. I was initially responding to a comment of someone who was looking for a standalone Apple Watch, which was an odd desire to have... imo. I should have actually asked... why would that person want a standalone Apple Watch? I mean.. by you mentioning "you can't enjoy consumable content on an Apple Watch," kind of proves my idea of having it tethered to an iPhone.

Whereas it's not "only" money that is driving Apple decision that the only way to use an Apple Watch is via an iPhone. As such, you just mention "comes down to expectations and experience." And I believe Apple wants to control their consumers expectations and experience.... that's why my belief in having a "standalone" Apple watch would not benefit Apple and it would be terrible for the consumer.

Apple provides a Apple Watch in two different categories with a GPS/WiFi model and a Cellular model... the idea of "eventually" it would be an option other than a smartphone seems far fetched. In that case why don't Apple give the iPad that option too. My reasoning behind having a cellular Apple Watch was to use it INSTEAD of a smartphone while removing myself of my phone on certain occasions.
 
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I use a desktop, laptop and tablet for various things depending on task. I don't confine myself to a single device and try to do everything on that device. The same reason I own several cars and a truck. I have never claimed a tablet will replace a desktop/laptop. What I have always claimed is this:

Android tablets are useless for all but the most basic/simple tasks. iPads can be used for the mundane tasks or they can be used for more complex tasks running powerful software that simply doesn't exist on Android.

Your usage patterns don't change these facts.
Do you use your sport car for moving furniture? Probably no. That would be like using iPad for productivity.
 
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Do you use your sport car for moving furniture? Probably no. That would be like using iPad for productivity.

Only according to you. Sorry to break it to you, but you don't speak for the entire tablet using world.

Good thing companies like Adobe don't listen to gloom & doom naysayers as you. Otherwise the the iOS App Store for tablets would end up looking like Google Play for tablets - pretty much useless.
 
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Do you use your sport car for moving furniture? Probably no. That would be like using iPad for productivity.

Define productivity then. It seems the critics all try to stack the deck by limiting productivity to stuff like excel or autocad which they know are easier to run on a desktop than a tablet. Which seems pretty disingenuous to me.

As a teacher, I don’t really do anything which requires a lot of specs, but mobility and ease of use do matter to me. My desktop can’t be used to annotate on pdf documents in notability, scan documents or take notes in a meeting. I have even edited a video in lumafusion and using the pencil feels more intimate and natural than a mouse. I get to share apps with my iPhone (and vice versa), and I like that my iOS devices are mirror images of each other.

My main two bugbears with my iPad at work is that the gmail app doesn’t allow me to natively attach files, and that Google docs still sucks (both the app and browser). But otherwise, everything else is great.

Sure, a Windows tablet equipped with stylus support could well perform the same tasks on paper, but the experience just isn’t the same. The app selection doesn’t seem as robust.

This in essence seems to herald back to the MAC vs PC debates all over again. People obsessing over specs and listing out what each device can do on paper, without realising that software makes all the difference in user experience. And for the work I do, I am now at a stage where I prefer iOS over macOS or windows.
 
Define productivity then. It seems the critics all try to stack the deck by limiting productivity to stuff like excel or autocad which they know are easier to run on a desktop than a tablet. Which seems pretty disingenuous to me.

As a teacher, I don’t really do anything which requires a lot of specs, but mobility and ease of use do matter to me. My desktop can’t be used to annotate on pdf documents in notability, scan documents or take notes in a meeting. I have even edited a video in lumafusion and using the pencil feels more intimate and natural than a mouse. I get to share apps with my iPhone (and vice versa), and I like that my iOS devices are mirror images of each other.

My main two bugbears with my iPad at work is that the gmail app doesn’t allow me to natively attach files, and that Google docs still sucks (both the app and browser). But otherwise, everything else is great.

Sure, a Windows tablet equipped with stylus support could well perform the same tasks on paper, but the experience just isn’t the same. The app selection doesn’t seem as robust.

This in essence seems to herald back to the MAC vs PC debates all over again. People obsessing over specs and listing out what each device can do on paper, without realising that software makes all the difference in user experience. And for the work I do, I am now at a stage where I prefer iOS over macOS or windows.
It has nothing to do with specs. Tablets win when mobility is involved (i.e. when one has to handhold the computer). Once you can sit, laptops win (except for the use cases where pen is beneficial). And when you have a desk, desktop is a king.
 
Well, lets start over. I was initially responding to a comment of someone who was looking for a standalone Apple Watch, which was an odd desire to have... imo. I should have actually asked... why would that person want a standalone Apple Watch? I mean.. by you mentioning "you can't enjoy consumable content on an Apple Watch," kind of proves my idea of having it tethered to an iPhone.

Whereas it's not "only" money that is driving Apple decision that the only way to use an Apple Watch is via an iPhone. As such, you just mention "comes down to expectations and experience." And I believe Apple wants to control their consumers expectations and experience.... that's why my belief in having a "standalone" Apple watch would not benefit Apple and it would be terrible for the consumer.

Apple provides a Apple Watch in two different categories with a GPS/WiFi model and a Cellular model... the idea of "eventually" it would be an option other than a smartphone seems far fetched. In that case why don't Apple give the iPad that option too. My reasoning behind having a cellular Apple Watch was to use it INSTEAD of a smartphone while removing myself of my phone on certain occasions.

Well put.

To be clear... when I say: “eventually there will be another option of a personal mobile computing/communication device, other than smartphone”, I was careful to NOT insinuate that option would be Apple Watch. I do not believe it will be either.
Pressed to guess... it took 12 years for smartphones to become as ubiquitous as they are now; so certainly 12 years after the arrival of the 1st wave of smart eyewear- it’s very easy to imagine someone using such a product, sans phone.
The main necessity on a personal computing device, is a large enough screen to view (and manipulate) content. Screens have skewed larger for years & years in a row.
The idea of replacing these phenomenal screens w/ one the actual size of a postage stamp, borders on ludicrous.
 
Well put.

To be clear... when I say: “eventually there will be another option of a personal mobile computing/communication device, other than smartphone”, I was careful to NOT insinuate that option would be Apple Watch. I do not believe it will be either.
Pressed to guess... it took 12 years for smartphones to become as ubiquitous as they are now; so certainly 12 years after the arrival of the 1st wave of smart eyewear- it’s very easy to imagine someone using such a product, sans phone.
The main necessity on a personal computing device, is a large enough screen to view (and manipulate) content. Screens have skewed larger for years & years in a row.
The idea of replacing these phenomenal screens w/ one the actual size of a postage stamp, borders on ludicrous.

What if it’s not a device, but a few of them?

I am imagining an Apple Watch as the brains and AR glasses as the screen. The glasses would essentially resolve the issue of the watch having such a small display. Maybe even Airpods for Siri support.
 
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4GB DRAM is just catching up to 4GB Moto G7 that has been as low as $200. For $750 starting price the iPhone Xr should really come with at least 6GB if not 8GB since it competes price wise with more feature rich Galaxy Note 10 256GB storage version.

While they're at it also put 4GB in the base iPad since it's gimped with only 2GB.
If you want to talk specs, look at the note 10.
Compared to other top Samsung flagships.

1080p screen, no SD slot, tiny battery, no headphone jack.

And people bash the iPhone XR.

The heresy!!!
 
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