Powerbeats Pro Feature IPX4 Water Resistance Rating

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple claims that its new Powerbeats Pro earbuds feature a "reinforced design" that makes them sweat and water resistant, but there are still a lot of questions about what that specifically means given that past Beats headphones have experienced failures due to moisture exposure.

    As it turns out, the Powerbeats Pro feature an IPX4 water resistance rating, which means they're certified to hold up to water splashing against the enclosure from any direction, but have the potential to fail when immersed or exposed to jets of water.


    The IP4X rating, as iMore points out, is mentioned in a reviewer's guide that was provided to media sites that have early access to the earbuds. It is not included in Apple's official marketing materials.

    Apple promotes the Powerbeats Pro as being resistant to sweat and water, making them ideal for working out and other fitness-related activities. The Verge was told in April that the Powerbeats Pro have been engineered to handle "all of your sweat without fail."

    It does not appear that Apple's earlier headphones, such as the BeatsX or the Powerbeats 3, have official Ingress Protection ratings, which may mean that they weren't subjected to testing.

    Apple's Powerbeats 3 earbuds were marketed as sweat and water resistant, but there have been reports of failures after extended sweat exposure, which leaves some questions about the Powerbeats Pro.

    With an IPX4 rating, the Powerbeats Pro should be able to survive sweat exposure, but we're not going to know how they hold up until users have had time to properly test them out over time.

    For comparison's sake, the current 2018 iPhones have an IPX7 rating and can survive total immersion in water. Powerbeats Pro should not be submerged in liquids with an IPX4 rating, and you're going to want to keep them as dry as possible.

    Avoiding sweat during physical activity is impossible, but keeping them out of the rain and the shower is advised, as is drying them off after a long workout.

    Article Link: Powerbeats Pro Feature IPX4 Water Resistance Rating
  2. DrJohnnyN Suspended


    Jan 27, 2010
  3. Baymowe335 macrumors 601

    Oct 6, 2017
    I’ve washed AirPods and they are fine, so I think Apple headphones are definitely resilient even if there is no water rating.
  4. 3rdiguy macrumors 65816


    Sep 17, 2012
    Will these work with Comply foam tips?
  5. yanksfan114 macrumors 6502

    Jul 30, 2011
    The XS has IP68 rating
  6. blairh, May 8, 2019
    Last edited: May 8, 2019

    blairh macrumors 68040


    Dec 11, 2007
    Curious when review embargo is lifted.

    Edit - So CNET dropped their review shortly after this comment but it's a pretty terrible review with no real world testing of battery life. I guess we will see real reviews very soon.
  7. alexandr macrumors 6502a


    Nov 11, 2005
  8. sotiredofsoup macrumors member

    Feb 1, 2010
    Santa Monica, CA
    My Powerbeats 3 finally gave up the ghost this past weekend exactly 2 years to the day from purchase. The number of times I had to leave them in the sun in a container of rice finally wore out the adhesive on the controller and it fell apart. I was getting the frequent red/white flashing error which always meant they need a few days to dry out (I'm training for a marathon in extremely sweaty fashion).

    I preordered the PBP as soon as they were available because I believe the wire and controller were the failure point on the PB3. I can't wait for them to arrive.
  9. afir93 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 5, 2018
    Isn't it already? Many sites/YouTubers have already put their first impression articles/videos up over the last 72 hours, it didn't seem like there was anything they weren't allowed to talk about. Proper reviews are going to take a few days, reviewers need time to test them.
  10. Rafterman macrumors 68020

    Apr 23, 2010
  11. racerhomie macrumors 6502


    Aug 14, 2015
    No. They will improve as time goes on. They still remain perfect, even in 2019.
  12. WestCoastCommodore macrumors newbie


    Jan 6, 2016
    This is a much needed improvement over the previous PowerBeats. I had two different sets fail from sweating during workouts, so hopefully these will last longer for those who will use them during workouts.
  13. afir93 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 5, 2018
    Generally I agree, Apple tends to undersell the water-resistance on their devices, there are reports of people dropping their iPhones >10m underwater and them still working fine afterwards, or putting their AirPods into the washing machine per accident and them coming out undamaged.

    But the Powerbeats 3 were a bit of an exception to this, as there were many people who had them fail on them after a couple months because of extensive sweating, which shouldn't happen so easily on headphones of that price that are advertised as sweat-resistant. They seem to have redesigned them quite a lot with the Powerbeats Pro, and the fact that there is no wire anymore probably also decreased the possible points of failure, so between this and the IPX4 rating, I'm hopeful that they have fixed this weakness with the Powerbeats Pro.
  14. az431 macrumors 65816


    Sep 13, 2008
    Portland, OR
    Why does this article state that Apple “claims” that they are water resistant when they are, in fact, IPX4 certified?
  15. neuropsychguy macrumors 65816


    Sep 29, 2008
    They basically are, even if not rated as such. I exercise with them and never have issues (and I tend to sweat a lot and live in a warm, humid climate). I wouldn't wear them in the rain without an umbrella; no need to take a chance.

    I'm looking forward to more water resistant AirPods though.
  16. edlex macrumors 68000


    Apr 14, 2010
    I had read in one of the other threads that Comply was in the process of testing them to see which work best and if they will work with the charging case.
  17. quietstormSD macrumors 6502a


    Mar 2, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    My Powerbeats 3 are pretty water/sweat resistant. I've sweated a ton and even dunk water on top of my head during long hot runs and they haven't failed me.
  18. D4rL0t macrumors newbie

    Dec 6, 2009
    ...not only impossible, it’s contradictory with the aims of a workout!
  19. blairh macrumors 68040


    Dec 11, 2007
    Yeah I guess. I don't know if you are allowed to do an unboxing or first hands-on but have to hold back the review. Maybe I'm wrong.

    In fact shortly after I wrote my post CNET dropped their review, but it seems pretty rushed. Didn't even test battery life. Trash review.
  20. Sikntwstd8 macrumors newbie


    Oct 22, 2003
    I wore my PowerBeats3 this past weekend for the Pittsburgh Marathon. It rained, a good bit, and I didn’t experience any water issues. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  21. H3LL5P4WN macrumors 68000


    Jun 19, 2010
    Pittsburgh PA
    Not cleaning your earbuds after use, let alone after a work out, is just nasty.
    --- Post Merged, May 8, 2019 ---
    Is that you, High-five Guy?
  22. euvnairb macrumors regular

    Oct 13, 2010
    Goleta, CA
    I agree - i think the failure point for the Powerbeats 3 were the wire and controller. I went through 3 sets and finally stopped using them on the 4th because the warranty was out. I have some cheap amazon versions without the controller and these have never failed me.

    I sweat A LOT so I'm hoping these work well for me. I'm going to test them out in my workout conditions (running and biking) before the return period ends.
  23. DrJohnnyN Suspended


    Jan 27, 2010
    Sure, buddy, keep dreaming.
  24. richman20 macrumors newbie

    May 21, 2014
    My Powerbeats 3 are the worst product I have ever purchased from Apple and I love Apple products. They were uncomfortable and didn't sound very good. The tips constantly fell off until eventually I lost 1. My AirPods are outstanding. Hopefully these new Powerbeats pick up on everything that is great about the Airpods but I see no reason for me to have both.

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