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Powerbeats Pro Feature IPX4 Water Resistance Rating

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Apple claims that its new Powerbeats Pro earbuds feature a "reinforced design" that makes them sweat and water resistant, but there are still a lot of questions about what that specifically means given that past Beats headphones have experienced failures due to moisture exposure.

As it turns out, the Powerbeats Pro feature an IPX4 water resistance rating, which means they're certified to hold up to water splashing against the enclosure from any direction, but have the potential to fail when immersed or exposed to jets of water.


The IP4X rating, as iMore points out, is mentioned in a reviewer's guide that was provided to media sites that have early access to the earbuds. It is not included in Apple's official marketing materials.

Apple promotes the Powerbeats Pro as being resistant to sweat and water, making them ideal for working out and other fitness-related activities. The Verge was told in April that the Powerbeats Pro have been engineered to handle "all of your sweat without fail."

It does not appear that Apple's earlier headphones, such as the BeatsX or the Powerbeats 3, have official Ingress Protection ratings, which may mean that they weren't subjected to testing.

Apple's Powerbeats 3 earbuds were marketed as sweat and water resistant, but there have been reports of failures after extended sweat exposure, which leaves some questions about the Powerbeats Pro.

With an IPX4 rating, the Powerbeats Pro should be able to survive sweat exposure, but we're not going to know how they hold up until users have had time to properly test them out over time.

For comparison's sake, the current 2018 iPhones have an IPX7 rating and can survive total immersion in water. Powerbeats Pro should not be submerged in liquids with an IPX4 rating, and you're going to want to keep them as dry as possible.

Avoiding sweat during physical activity is impossible, but keeping them out of the rain and the shower is advised, as is drying them off after a long workout.

Article Link: Powerbeats Pro Feature IPX4 Water Resistance Rating
 

blairh

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Curious when review embargo is lifted.

Edit - So CNET dropped their review shortly after this comment but it's a pretty terrible review with no real world testing of battery life. I guess we will see real reviews very soon.
 
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sotiredofsoup

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My Powerbeats 3 finally gave up the ghost this past weekend exactly 2 years to the day from purchase. The number of times I had to leave them in the sun in a container of rice finally wore out the adhesive on the controller and it fell apart. I was getting the frequent red/white flashing error which always meant they need a few days to dry out (I'm training for a marathon in extremely sweaty fashion).

I preordered the PBP as soon as they were available because I believe the wire and controller were the failure point on the PB3. I can't wait for them to arrive.
 
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afir93

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Curious when review embargo is lifted.
Isn't it already? Many sites/YouTubers have already put their first impression articles/videos up over the last 72 hours, it didn't seem like there was anything they weren't allowed to talk about. Proper reviews are going to take a few days, reviewers need time to test them.
 
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WestCoastCommodore

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This is a much needed improvement over the previous PowerBeats. I had two different sets fail from sweating during workouts, so hopefully these will last longer for those who will use them during workouts.
 
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afir93

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I’ve washed AirPods and they are fine, so I think Apple headphones are definitely resilient even if there is no water rating.
Generally I agree, Apple tends to undersell the water-resistance on their devices, there are reports of people dropping their iPhones >10m underwater and them still working fine afterwards, or putting their AirPods into the washing machine per accident and them coming out undamaged.

But the Powerbeats 3 were a bit of an exception to this, as there were many people who had them fail on them after a couple months because of extensive sweating, which shouldn't happen so easily on headphones of that price that are advertised as sweat-resistant. They seem to have redesigned them quite a lot with the Powerbeats Pro, and the fact that there is no wire anymore probably also decreased the possible points of failure, so between this and the IPX4 rating, I'm hopeful that they have fixed this weakness with the Powerbeats Pro.
 
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Why does this article state that Apple “claims” that they are water resistant when they are, in fact, IPX4 certified?
 
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edlex

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Will these work with Comply foam tips?

I had read in one of the other threads that Comply was in the process of testing them to see which work best and if they will work with the charging case.
 
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blairh

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Isn't it already? Many sites/YouTubers have already put their first impression articles/videos up over the last 72 hours, it didn't seem like there was anything they weren't allowed to talk about. Proper reviews are going to take a few days, reviewers need time to test them.
Yeah I guess. I don't know if you are allowed to do an unboxing or first hands-on but have to hold back the review. Maybe I'm wrong.

In fact shortly after I wrote my post CNET dropped their review, but it seems pretty rushed. Didn't even test battery life. Trash review.
 
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Avoiding sweat during physical activity is impossible, but keeping them out of the rain and the shower is advised, as is drying them off after a long workout.

Not cleaning your earbuds after use, let alone after a work out, is just nasty.
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I wore my PowerBeats3 this past weekend for the Pittsburgh Marathon. It rained, a good bit, and I didn’t experience any water issues. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is that you, High-five Guy?
 
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euvnairb

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My Powerbeats 3 finally gave up the ghost this past weekend exactly 2 years to the day from purchase. The number of times I had to leave them in the sun in a container of rice finally wore out the adhesive on the controller and it fell apart. I was getting the frequent red/white flashing error which always meant they need a few days to dry out (I'm training for a marathon in extremely sweaty fashion).

I preordered the PBP as soon as they were available because I believe the wire and controller were the failure point on the PB3. I can't wait for them to arrive.

I agree - i think the failure point for the Powerbeats 3 were the wire and controller. I went through 3 sets and finally stopped using them on the 4th because the warranty was out. I have some cheap amazon versions without the controller and these have never failed me.

I sweat A LOT so I'm hoping these work well for me. I'm going to test them out in my workout conditions (running and biking) before the return period ends.
 
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richman20

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My Powerbeats 3 are the worst product I have ever purchased from Apple and I love Apple products. They were uncomfortable and didn't sound very good. The tips constantly fell off until eventually I lost 1. My AirPods are outstanding. Hopefully these new Powerbeats pick up on everything that is great about the Airpods but I see no reason for me to have both.
 
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