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Re: Re: Re: ?

Originally posted by JBracy
Actually that's $125 MORE than the 15" PB with SuperDrive, BT, AP, 60GB HD, 512MB RAM. Check the AppleStore. $2,649
I did. Check my comments. First, I spec'd 1GB of ram (add $300 to your pricing). Yes, you can get 3rd party RAM but a) that's not exactly a valid comparison of pricing, and b) for business use, its very convenient to be able to use one company for failures, warrantee work, et cetera.

Now add the 3 year APP (as I mentioned). Yes, all $350 of it. Makes a pretty good price difference, and it merely gets the coverage up to what Dell's including. Apple doesn't even offer the onsite service that Dell does (which is why I didn't include it in my quoted quote). As the price goes, you're already over $500 more than the Dell offering.

Whoops, we didn't catch the 802.11 a/g cards (to be fair, now add the price of a combo PCMCIA card to the apple quote). Or the extra 32mb of graphics memory. Etc. And we're still dealing with an 867mhz G4 machine at these numbers (yes, its only $250 more for the 1ghz, but I was trying to get a true feature/price comparison before).

Look, I like the PowerBooks. I think they're great machines. I recently bought a 12" for my future in-laws to use around the house. Put a decent resolution LCD and a 1.2ghz 970 in one and I'll buy it today (double the expected specInt makes a big difference when it comes to compile times). But going around claiming either that the intel-powered offerings are very inferior (which they're not these days), have poorer battery life, or are more expensive (hardly) doesn't help anyone. Slanted comparisons don't really help much either.

-Richard
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: ?

Originally posted by rjstanford
I did. Check my comments. First, I spec'd 1GB of ram (add $300 to your pricing). Yes, you can get 3rd party RAM but a) that's not exactly a valid comparison of pricing, and b) for business use, its very convenient to be able to use one company for failures, warrantee work, et cetera.

Now add the 3 year APP (as I mentioned). Yes, all $350 of it. Makes a pretty good price difference, and it merely gets the coverage up to what Dell's including. Apple doesn't even offer the onsite service that Dell does (which is why I didn't include it in my quoted quote). As the price goes, you're already over $500 more than the Dell offering.

Whoops, we didn't catch the 802.11 a/g cards (to be fair, now add the price of a combo PCMCIA card to the apple quote). Or the extra 32mb of graphics memory. Etc. And we're still dealing with an 867mhz G4 machine at these numbers (yes, its only $250 more for the 1ghz, but I was trying to get a true feature/price comparison before).

Look, I like the PowerBooks. I think they're great machines. I recently bought a 12" for my future in-laws to use around the house. Put a decent resolution LCD and a 1.2ghz 970 in one and I'll buy it today (double the expected specInt makes a big difference when it comes to compile times). But going around claiming either that the intel-powered offerings are very inferior (which they're not these days), have poorer battery life, or are more expensive (hardly) doesn't help anyone. Slanted comparisons don't really help much either.

-Richard

OK I didn't catch the Apple Care, but really I wouldn't bother. I'd get the top end 15" upgrade to 512MB/1DIMM, add BT, and buy 3rd party RAM to bring it to 1GB for less than the price of your Dell and with a SuperDrive.
 
Re: Re: ?

Originally posted by rjstanford
One question. Have you checked out the new Centrino models? Its easy to bash a company based on prior experience with them, but there are now several shipping intel models running ~1.6 (+/-) ghz P4M chips with 5-7 hours of battery life. Attack them for being clunky, or bash the OS, or whatever, but the 2 hour battery life of the original P4 (non-M) systems isn't really an issue any more.

Combine that with the prices (below), and the intel notebooks are fast becoming a very appealing threat. Take the Dell D800 for example...

Sorry, i like looks in a laptop, and that laptop is fugly.
 
All I Care About

I will be happy with a 1 Ghz 15" PowerBook in an aluminum case with superdrive under $2500. The titanium cases with their peeling paint are hideous. (Sure they looked nice--for about a week after you got them home and the paint started peeling off. I'm NOT getting another Ti.)

What are the chances that I will get an Aluminum 15" (OF ANY KIND) by the WWDC?
 
Originally posted by TomA
I will be happy with a 1 Ghz 15" PowerBook in an aluminum case with superdrive under $2500. The titanium cases with their peeling paint are hideous. (Sure they looked nice--for about a week after you got them home and the paint started peeling off. I'm NOT getting another Ti.)

What are the chances that I will get an Aluminum 15" by the WWDC?
Apple should announce Aluminum 15" Powerbooks at WWDC. I'm predicting they'll be 970s.
 
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
I don't who told you we'd see iMacs, but we definitely won't see PowerPC 970 iMacs until next year at the earliest.

As for iBooks, I'm going to provide two corrections:
1. We probably won't see them at WWDC. Although they are due for an update and would make an awesome One more thing...

What are you talking about, they just recently updated the iBooks.
 
Re: All I Care About

Originally posted by TomA
I will be happy with a 1 Ghz 15" PowerBook in an aluminum case with superdrive under $2500. The titanium cases with their peeling paint are hideous. (Sure they looked nice--for about a week after you got them home and the paint started peeling off. I'm NOT getting another Ti.)

What are the chances that I will get an Aluminum 15" (OF ANY KIND) by the WWDC?

I don't see how there couldn't be some form of a 15" Al coming out. Supplies of current 15" are dwindling, and prices just dropped $200.
 
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