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PowerBook G5 - 'Going to be a while'

Re: Re: Re: Fine for PowerBooks - what about iBooks?

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I agree, but not for the same reason.

THe G4 you could say the same thing for regarding AltiVec. But the G4 switchover took forever. Why? Low quantities. The G5 switchover will be quicker. Why? IBM needs more volume from Fishkill, and more G5's would be great for that. Also, a one-processor product lineup and quick G5 migration across the line--not for 64-bitness alone, but because the chip is so pimp--will be advantageous for Apple.
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well still, altivec only enhances processing, but once 64bit is the standard, you would have to make everything 64bit, no 64bit application is going to work on 32bit hardware. either way, i expect everything to be G5 by mid 2005
 
Originally posted by WK2003
hmm...i hope Powerbook G5 doesn't come out any time sooon, as i just got my sweet 15" Al-book at 1.25GHz....it's more than i'd ever need as a college student....

And for SiliconAddict: i feel sorry for u that u have ONLY $3000 to spend on a notebook running all your pro apps....as for apple vs. PC....who buys a Bentley cuz it has the fastest and technologically-advanced engines???:eek:
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Make no mistake about it. I didn't just plunk down 3000 off the money tree. I've been saving since early summer for a new notebook. This is more then a little annoying and excuse me for wanting something compairable to the PC world's computers. Again, as I've stated before, I have no problems handing over a few extra hundred for a quality notebook as long as its speed is about equal to that of the competition. The benchmarks I posted don't reflect this. Also this isn't about pro apps and their uses, even though I do plan on doing FCE video editing on it, its about future proofing the system as much as possible. Don't you think at some point Apple is going to release a version of OS X that takes better advantage of the G5's 64-bit ness. The much touted 64-bit OS revolution everyone keeps stating is on the way.. Yes for now the only reason for a 64-bit processor is RAM but long term the OS and the apps will be able to better utilize that 64-bit pipe. I would perfer a laptop that is ready for that day rather then have to upgrade yet again when that day arrives.
 
Re: Re: yeah

Originally posted by revenuee
from my knowledge of the compound H2O, it is actually one of the better liquids to use

it has a very high specific heat capacity, it takes a long time for its temperature to raise when compared to other liquids

and it's readily available
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H2O would be a poor choice for the fact that below 32 degrees F or 0 degrees C it freezes. Say you live up north and happen to forget your Powerbook out in your car overnight during the winter, not a good deal!
 
Re: Re: Re: yeah

Originally posted by Abercrombieboy
H2O would be a poor choice for the fact that below 32 degrees F or 0 degrees C it freezes. Say you live up north and happen to forget your Powerbook out in your car overnight during the winter, not a good deal!
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Excellent point

Hows this for a contra?

when the water freezes, you've got ice, keeping your processor even colder

yes i won't be surprised if you tell me that this is a terrible defense. LOL :D :) ;)
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
When it freezes, it also expands. Ice is less dense than water.
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i had thought about that as well, so then i concluded that there would be enough space to account for this expansion. :D
 
Re: PowerBook G5 - 'Going to be a while'

Originally posted by Macrumors
One subsequent rumor hinted that Apple was testing liquid cooling to overcome these obstacles.
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I can see it now, water cooling on a laptop, wait a sec I just have to set up the radiatior before I turn it on.

However water cooling on the tower G5 or a G5 Xserve would be a plus, but I can't see apple selling external radiators.
 
Originally posted by Sheebahawk
I think I remember the task of putting a g4 in a powerbook seemed daunting back then. I've got faith that whatever apple does'll tur out to be the best portable in its time.
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You said it! I know quite a few folks who said, when the G4 tower came out, that it would be years before we would see a G4 portable, because how in the world could you get a monster like the G4 into a portable. And then, in Jan 2001, not only do we see a portable g4, but in a 1 in thin laptop!
 
Still Moto? Or maybe IBM

If Moto can't deliver a faster G4 for powerbooks, does anyone think an Altivec enhanced 750gx (IBM) could be branded G4 and used in the next PB revision?
 
Re: Still Moto? Or maybe IBM

Originally posted by dieselg4
If Moto can't deliver a faster G4 for powerbooks, does anyone think an Altivec enhanced 750gx (IBM) could be branded G4 and used in the next PB revision?
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the G3's life is through. apple will just keep the G4 around in whatever form untill everything is G5, because, eventually, 64bit will become standard. the G4 will still do ok in low end machines up untill mid 2005, in which i predict everything will become G5.

and the 750gx doesn't have altivec, that was only a rumor.
 
Re: Still Moto? Or maybe IBM

Originally posted by dieselg4
If Moto can't deliver a faster G4 for powerbooks, does anyone think an Altivec enhanced 750gx (IBM) could be branded G4 and used in the next PB revision?
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It's possible, but then again, so are alien abductions. There's no evidence for it. I wish people would shut up about it.
 
For sure, moving the iBook to the G4 is a nail in the G3 coffin. Apple is consolidating architectures.

The G5 is definitely the wave of the future. The question is, which variant of the G5 will go into the portables? The 90nm 970? The 980? Or the cut-down 970 that's rumored to go into the new Xbox?
 
Hmm, gotta love wild and uninformed speculation masquerading as fact, here's my contribution:

Remember the Osbourne? The early announcement of their next release killed the product and the company because subsequently no-one was buying their current product. So of course Apple isn't going to tell everyone about the G5 pb waiting in the wings. I would like to see it earlier rather than later and I'm voting for mid-2004 at the latest. Why?

1. Jobs hates Motorola
2. Motorola had great difficulty providing G4 chips with even a minor speed bump. There's no way they're going to be able to provide any significant speed improvements in the near future.
3. As reported in Mac Rumors, IBM is sampling 90nm G5 chips that will run cooler at similar speeds with volume production Q2 (plus IBM appears to be able to deliver when they say they will).
4. Apple is going to be pulling out the stops to get these things into the powerbook line because despite the moofing and notwithstanding decent product sales, the last powerbook update was underwhelming.
4a. Apple must have been preparing for this for some time so the chipset to go with the new processor has been developed in parallel.
5. I want one. Instead of buying the new 15" AlBook I bought a 7200rpm 60GB drive for my TiBook 667 plus a copy of 10.3 and guess what, it's like a whole new machine. So I can wait a while. As an aside, what other company delivers a new operating system that makes your current hardware go faster? Normally an OS upgrade is closely followed by a hardware upgrade.

To beat up on those Windows notebooks Apple is going to have to deliver a higher resolution screen which I think was missing from the last revision. A faster hard drive as standard (this is the premium product line right?), plus a faster processor that is demonstrably equivalent to or faster than the PC world, and all this in a fabulous enclosure because we Mac dudes like our boxes pretty.
 
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