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Powerbook G5 Hints?

this whole lack of PB talk from Apples point of view probably means that either NOTHING AT ALL is going to happen, or that something really big will happen. but you didnt need me to tell you that, its pretty much the atmosphere now.

i dont know Apple well enough yet to make this assumption, but is it possible that IBM could be making a totally seperate 64bit Processor? only called a mobile G5 for the sake of the G series? it may very well be a G4.5, a 64bit enabled G4.
 
Ok this might be a stupid question so please excuse...

Ive noticed that some of u guys in this forum work for apple resellers. If something was going to be released on Tuesday wouldnt you have the boxes out the back of the shop by now? I dont know how Apple works (Ive never bought a mac before and im eagerly awaiting Tuesday to get a 15" powerbook) . Does apple release products on their websites well before they get shipped to the reseller stores?

If they do release something on Tuesday and I buy it straight away from the Australian online official Apple store how long will I have to wait to get it? Im very impatient.... :)
 
digitalbiker said:
Gates seemed unpeturbed.
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That's my point exactly.

Everything about Gates and Microsoft is "Hey come on board, we're not quite finished yet, but have a peek," while everything about Apple says SECRET. With that is a price to be paid, namely, that many interpret that corporate behavior as arrogance. It's irrelevant that the end product is indeed better. Perception.

The day that Apple sees an increase in CPU and OS market share is the day Apple releases information and beta versions of everything they make. So that, like Microsoft releasing poorly designed, "unfinished" products, third party developers invest time and money into "molding" their own products into the Apple foundational design. Once these developers commit to that investment, you can bet that they are gonna want to be paid back, so they promote their products, which in turn promotes Apple.

The trade-off, of course, is that the end result may suck. Too much compromise. But boy, does the pocket-book feel good.

After 21 years of using Macintosh and nearly 30 years of using Apple, I am convinced that there are two reasons why I will never use another platform of computer other than Apple, and the reasons are interrelated. [1] Apple products work, efficiently and elegantly, period. And [2] because achieving efficiency and elegance takes more time, requires less compromise [hint - keep everything in-house], costs more money, and demands that product design be in an actual working state when coming to market, Apple NEEDS to be secret, which leads us back to point number one. It's a circle, you see. One that works, unfortunately, for only about 3% of all computer users.
 
you'll need to learn patience, Grasshopper

inlimbo said:
I dont know how Apple works (Ive never bought a mac before and im eagerly awaiting Tuesday to get a 15" powerbook) . Does apple release products on their websites well before they get shipped to the reseller stores?

If they do release something on Tuesday and I buy it straight away from the Australian online official Apple store how long will I have to wait to get it? Im very impatient.... :)
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Apple's relationships with their resellers have been strained by the "preferential" treatment that the Apple Stores (both online and brick-and-mortar) seem to get as far as product allocation. See http://www.tellonapple.org/news.php for more info.

Someone else will need to comment about the situation in Australia, however.

Apple also has a history of long backorders whenever a new product is introduced. Although it is annoying to the buyer, it helps maximize their profit.
  • They don't wait until they have a big stock on hand before they announce. That would imply a big inventory, and Apple tries very hard to keep inventory as small as possible. ("Inventory" is money that's tied up, not making more money. Very bad on Wall Street.)
  • Apple tries to size production lines for the long-term demand - they don't open lots of extra factory lines to meet the initial demand. That would be more expensive, and could generate bad press ("layoffs") when the extra lines were closed.
  • Apple is always able to claim that the long waits are due to "unexpected demand for the exciting new product", thereby generating additional buzz and publicity. Have you ever seen an Apple product that didn't have "unexpected demand" when new? Even duds like the Cube had long waits at introduction.

Grasshopper, you'll need to learn patience if you want to follow the way of the Mac.... Perhaps you should read the Ferengi "Rules of Acquisition" while you wait, those rules will help you understand the workings of 1 Infinite Loop. ;)
 
AidenShaw said:
If you're running an NT-based system, BSODs should be extremely rare. Even many posters on this forum will agree that NT is normally quite stable.

If you're getting them frequently, something is very wrong. Daily is quite absurd. I have literally several hundred XP systems in my lab that have been up since they were rebooted to install SP2 several months ago. The last BSOD that I got on my dual Xeon workstation at work happened because I removed a NIC while the machine was running (those Dell's are *so* quiet you need to double-check that they've been shut down).

Some suggestions:

- You might have bad memory. Download the memtest86 program from http://www.memtest86.com/ . It's a free ISO image of a bootable CD that you can run to do very thorough memory testing of just about any x86 system. An indispensible tool....

- You might have a buggy device driver. Check that you have the latest WHQL driver for your video card, and perhaps any other devices. Check the manufacturer's website for upgrades to the NIC and other embedded devices. Make sure that firmware is up-to-date, sometimes new drivers haven't been well tested against old versions of firmware.

- You might have defective devices - keeping track of what you were doing right before the BSOD might help narrow down the possibilities here.

- You might have a bad CPU or motherboard. Truly random crashes can be due to a bad or poorly seated CPU or card. Many times I've fixed a "possesed" machine by reseating the CPU, memory, cards and all other cables and connections.

Daily blue screens are not a feature of Windows, your system is sick.
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This is a Dell laptop so I'm not going to look inside. Maybe the ones in my dept should just be replaced when they get the blue screens. We just mostly play Doom all day anyway. If we could all get G5 Powerbooks, we could play Halo.
 
Rootman said:
This is a Dell laptop so I'm not going to look inside.
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You could still download the memtest86 cd image (http://www.memtest86.com/) and see if it's memory.


Rootman said:
Maybe the ones in my dept should just be replaced when they get the blue screens.
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Good idea, Michael Dell needs the money.


Rootman said:
We just mostly play Doom all day anyway. If we could all get G5 Powerbooks, we could play Halo.
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If you're serious (about playing Doom, that is), it is possible that you have a video driver problem. 3D games really put stress on the driver....

It's pretty easy to get a new video driver from Dell.

- go to http://support.dell.com
- in the "service tag" box, enter the 7 digit alpha-numeric service tag from the sticker on the bottom of the laptop
- enter your O/S, then scroll down to find the video driver
- download the file, and run it
 
I was thinking since apparently Apple didn't buy any ad time for the Super Bowl, what is the next big event watched worldwide? It's the Academy Awards on Feb. 27. and this being the year of HD...
 
koa said:
I was thinking since apparently Apple didn't buy any ad time for the Super Bowl, what is the next big event watched worldwide? It's the Academy Awards on Feb. 27. and this being the year of HD...
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Oh, I dunno. I think Feb. 14 is pretty big all by itself. Maybe that's the point -- instead of a big event, Apple could choose a holiday for release.

I think the 14th is the date we'll see Tiger, and the new powerbooks, be they new G4s or G5s, will come with Tiger preloaded. Apple may announce earlier than that, say this Tuesday or next, with the 14th being the shipping date. They've already announced Tiger at WWDC last year and previewed it at MWSF this year -- they don't need another event to promote it, they can release it any time. The new powerbooks would be able to ride the accompanying wave of publicity.
 
Caiwyn said:
Oh, I dunno. I think Feb. 14 is pretty big all by itself. Maybe that's the point -- instead of a big event, Apple could choose a holiday for release..
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Flowers? I'm getting my honey a G5 Powerbook!
 
DHagan4755 said:
Tiger hasn't even gone to beta stage yet.
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According to...?

SFAICT, seeding to developers/tester constitutes Apple's normal beta programs and they've been doing that since WWDC last year.

Maybe you meant "release candidate"? Even then they don't do a formal RC release - it's just continued seed releases right up until it goes gold master.
 
Put the CRACK PIPE DOWN

There is Absolutly no way Tiger will be ready anytime soon.
The latest build is completly bug filled.
Safari Hangs
Crashed Itunes.
Crashed Virtual PC.
Crashed MS Office.
Locks up all the time. (5 or 6 times a day)
I could go on and on.

Edit: Hardware tested on: PB 15" Aluminum 1.5 Ghz; Dual Mac G5 2.0 Ghz; Xserve G5( tested 10.4 server on here)
 
~loserman~ said:
There is Absolutly no way Tiger will be ready anytime soon.
The latest build is completly bug filled.
Safari Hangs
Crashed Itunes.
Crashed Virtual PC.
Crashed MS Office.
Locks up all the time. (5 or 6 times a day)
I could go on and on.

Edit: Hardware tested on: PB 15" Aluminum 1.5 Ghz; Dual Mac G5 2.0 Ghz; Xserve G5( tested 10.4 server on here)
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Oh right, and which "official" bit torrent site did you get this from ? :)
 
Hmmm....

Here's an odd idea....I still believe the G5 is farther off BUT......

The first Mac was introed during the Super Bowl. What is to stop Apple from introing the new PowerBook G5 during a Super Bowl Ad?? I mean they are also going to have the Pepsi/iTunes deal (I SAW AND BOUGHT MY FIRST CAP!!....it was a loser...note....Mountain Dew makes the tilt thing harder....). It would be a smash hit. They could even do something weird.....like make the Powerbook in the same colors as the iPod Mini.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Yah I think I'm 100% certain now that I'm going to hold off getting any Mac until WWDC. I could get a mini now but I'd be kicking myself if Apple came out with a G5 PowerBook midyear. Here's hoping its true.

Now bring on all the "expert" naysayer :rolleyes:
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Naw dude, get the cut rate mini and the powerbook :D What's an extra $500?
 
jmurray said:
The day that Apple sees an increase in CPU and OS market share is the day Apple releases information and beta versions of everything they make. So that, like Microsoft releasing poorly designed, "unfinished" products, third party developers invest time and money into "molding" their own products into the Apple foundational design. Once these developers commit to that investment, you can bet that they are gonna want to be paid back, so they promote their products, which in turn promotes Apple.
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Maybe I'm misunderstaing what you're saying, but isn't Apple doing that with Tiger, when they give developers prereleases or betas to work with the system to find bugs and so that they can develop new apps that work with the OS? I think Apple has also released beta version of their apps like FCP and Keynote, so that they can be tested before they are released in their "final" version. There's always a x.x.1 or x.1 update a couple of weeks after the product is released anyway.
In terms of hardware, I think Apple has almost always kept secrecy, with the expection of the iMac G5, because they stopped making G4's before they could finish the G5. That wasn't entirely Apple's fault, but if it had been finished on time, the iMac would have been released before the Paris Expo. I wonder if that would have happened? :confused:
In that situation they did tell people what was going on, because there was still demand for iMacs, but there were no more iMac G4's to sell.
I think we all know how many of us would buy a PBG4 right now if Apple said it would release a PBG5 next month.

I still say we're going to se something more than a speedbumped G4 or an advanced release of Tiger. Why would Apple give us Tiger now for free, anyway, after all the buzz they've made about it.
 
Superbowl

I'm definitly going with a superbowl announcement, especailly with the iTunes NFL downloads
 
oskar said:
I think Apple has also released beta version of their apps like FCP and Keynote, so that they can be tested before they are released in their "final" version. There's always a x.x.1 or x.1 update a couple of weeks after the product is released anyway.
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Your'e right about that, my mistake.

But my point is historically, Apple has been hush-hush, while Microsoft has not. And I think just like Sony hanging on to Beta when the whole world went VHS, Apple has actually revelled in its secret supremacy, which I feel has cost them market share.

Don't misunderstand, I am willing to wait longer and pay more for products that are done right, but something tells me the whiff of greenback that iPod has provided has changed Jobs and Co. We'll see.

PS Gut feeling is speed bump before G5PB.
 
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