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I hate rebates...
Ok. Rebates are calculated model for keeping money.
But I am wondering, why does Apple have to wait for some "show" to release product.
"Hey Steve?"
"Hey what?"
"Um, look, can we hold up production to say, um, Labor Day?"
"Why?"
"WELL, its Labor Day, and heck, the staff has been hard at work with the new packaging and.."
"Hmm, you are right! Lets have a picnic theme and announce the 'World's Fastest Desktop' with potato salad and corn-on-the-cob! It's a new kernel right?"
(schlep laughs at Steve affable humor..much like Peter from Family Guy)
"Yeah, let's do it. That way, we can rid our exisiting inventory to almost nothing! And units won't ship till November! Just in time for the holidays!"
(calls IBM in Fishkill..."hey, can you get 3.2Ghz...hhm...you don't say...you think? really! Cool!")
"Oh, there is a sale at Nordstroms...they have black shirts for $50 on sale..."
I'm not buying a G5 now. if I have to wait till WWDC, I can wait till they get the bugs outta that model...likely the 2005 mustang will be out by the time I see a G5...dual 3.0ghz...
Ok. Rebates are calculated model for keeping money.
But I am wondering, why does Apple have to wait for some "show" to release product.
"Hey Steve?"
"Hey what?"
"Um, look, can we hold up production to say, um, Labor Day?"
"Why?"
"WELL, its Labor Day, and heck, the staff has been hard at work with the new packaging and.."
"Hmm, you are right! Lets have a picnic theme and announce the 'World's Fastest Desktop' with potato salad and corn-on-the-cob! It's a new kernel right?"
(schlep laughs at Steve affable humor..much like Peter from Family Guy)
"Yeah, let's do it. That way, we can rid our exisiting inventory to almost nothing! And units won't ship till November! Just in time for the holidays!"
(calls IBM in Fishkill..."hey, can you get 3.2Ghz...hhm...you don't say...you think? really! Cool!")
"Oh, there is a sale at Nordstroms...they have black shirts for $50 on sale..."
I'm not buying a G5 now. if I have to wait till WWDC, I can wait till they get the bugs outta that model...likely the 2005 mustang will be out by the time I see a G5...dual 3.0ghz...
Interesting pattern
With the apple store now saying this: $500 save on a G5 - 23 inch HD screen Combo. Between March 28, 2004, and June 26, 2004 I think we won't see anything tomorrow. It's kind of funny because first the rumors said "January 26 we will see Powermac updates) and then "No new Powermacs in February" then came "Powermac update: March 23 / 30" And now we can expect to see "No new Powermacs in April" I guess.
Hopefully they will announce those 3 Ghz machines at WWDC if nothing happens before that, because I think everybody will be very disappointed if they will only come up with max dual 2.4s at WWDC. Then everybody here will start screaming: "Jobs is a liar. He promised 3 Ghz within a year"
With the apple store now saying this: $500 save on a G5 - 23 inch HD screen Combo. Between March 28, 2004, and June 26, 2004 I think we won't see anything tomorrow. It's kind of funny because first the rumors said "January 26 we will see Powermac updates) and then "No new Powermacs in February" then came "Powermac update: March 23 / 30" And now we can expect to see "No new Powermacs in April" I guess.
Hopefully they will announce those 3 Ghz machines at WWDC if nothing happens before that, because I think everybody will be very disappointed if they will only come up with max dual 2.4s at WWDC. Then everybody here will start screaming: "Jobs is a liar. He promised 3 Ghz within a year"
Mac-Xpert said:
That is a very tempting offer. Thank you for posting the link Mac-Xpert!
With the problems that I have heard about Rev. A, my plan is to wait. Really wasn't planning to purchase at this time.That is amazing that my prediction may actually be true. Now if Steve will just follow through with the 3.0 dual at WWDC.
I don't care about the offer, My boss is paying anywaywdlove said:That is a very tempting offer. Thank you for posting the link Mac-Xpert!
That is amazing that my prediction may actually be true. Now if Steve will just follow through with the 3.0 dual at WWDC.
But I would love to have a dual 3 Ghz though. But I would have gone for a 2.4 tomorrow as well!
So by managed growth, I mean a company that can meet it's debt service, not one of the companies that is hoping it can meet it's debt service before the bill comes due -- because they're in a speculative market and "think" growing fast enough through mergers & acquisitions. In that case they usually start paying silly numbers for new revenue and raising red flags.Namacste said:
But even in a speculative market there's usually somebody who cares about the long term, the customer.
Got MILK? Where's the WET clean up crew? Not again! Yep.
a. Shamrock
b. Borden's
c. Carnation
d. Desert Market brand
e. Ewe milk (for lambs)
f. Fry's brand (to eat with Hopi fry bread)
g. Mother's milk (leche) Yum!
h. none of the above
MILK...all gone!
PRECISELY. And the MILK is...Sun Baked said:
a. Shamrock
b. Borden's
c. Carnation
d. Desert Market brand
e. Ewe milk (for lambs)
f. Fry's brand (to eat with Hopi fry bread)
g. Mother's milk (leche) Yum!
h. none of the above
MILK...all gone!
You been good!
Sun Baked said:
It's such an oversimplified perspective that I can't disagree with you.
There is no "hope" either it does or it does not. Banks & financiers routinely assess a company's ability to make its interest payments. If banks don't see clear evidence that the company will make the payments, then guess what? They don't get the loan. But does it mean no one will offer the loan? Of course not, some VCs specialize in financing risky companies (with several conditions of course). If they're short term investors, they're banking on explosive growth.
Making a blanket statement that managed growth is preferable to explosive growth is just plain wrong. Does Mike Miliken ring a (ma) bell?
If they're customers, they're probably not in it for the short term.Namacste said:
But I can see why short term investors would rather care more about the money they make than a customer being serviced.
Buy a car, and who cares that the car company won't be there at the end of the warranty period. Didn't hurt the short term Daewoo investors one bit when they pulled out of the US market during the bankruptcy.
So I won't bother arguing that managed growth is better for the customer, than explosive growth when I'm talking to an speculative investor that only thinks in the short term.
Sun Baked said:
Granted nobody wants to be the person that bought a car a month before the company goes out of business. But when was the last time someone thought: "I need a new car, I wonder how Toyota is managing its debt lately?"
It might be that managed growth is "better" for the customer in the long term. But as a consumer I'd be more concerned about quality, customer service, reliability...
Let's not write off powermac updates till WWDC guys. There are still some reports that are optimistic, namely from MacOSRumors and Macrumors.
You guys trust Arn, right?
You guys trust Arn, right?
Remember Apple before Jobs came back, they lost quite a few sales due to people think the company's going out of business sale would happen before the end of the warranty -- even though the three concerns you named have not been addressed yet.Namacste said:
invaLPsion said:Let's not write off powermac updates till WWDC guys. There are still some reports that are optimistic, namely from MacOSRumors and Macrumors.
You guys trust Arn, right?
I think PMG5 updates will in the least be announced at WWDC along with specs and some demos of performance against the PC world. They may take 3 months to actually ship though.
Steve could cop out and wait for Paris in hopes that any technical problems holding back the G5-3GHz are resolved by then but that would be a bit gutless...
aswitcher said:
I think that a release at Paris would be great, in fact, that's probably what will happen.
I think this because MacWorld Paris is usually held in mid-late September, but now it was forwarded to the last day of August, conveniently before the end of summer. This way Steve can release the powermacs in summer therefore still keeping his promise.
Sun Baked said:
I don't mean to be on your case Baked, I just like talking to you although I am skepticle that you own any stock.
Apple lost sales for many, many reasons before Jobs came back. Also, the argument could be made that Apple is still losing sales as evidenced by declining market share.