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Originally posted by kansaigaijin
they don't bother to read the tech sheets or check the architecture page, they just look at the mhz numbers and whine. a lot of brainwashed people
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Unfortunately, the Xserve hype on Apples website is the same as for the previous bunch. Do a search on Google and find the cached Technical sheet for the "old" PowerMac MDD and you will see. Also, for information on how important this Xserve technology really is with the 7450 refer to Barefeat.com. Tests of the Quicksilver vs. Xserve vs. MDD are performed there.
All that aside, 1.42 7450 must be fast, but not as fast as the Xserve tech. will help the 74xx and beyond to be.
Also, Apple is doing an excellent job with their hardware and software any way you try to cut it.
 
ALL the Mirror Drive Door PowerMacs are XServe technology - it's just another way of saying they are using the same chipset (UniNorth/Keylargo) and have DDR memory.

Should be interesting to compare the UniNorth revision numbers between the XServe, old MDD, and the new MDD.
 
Yes, but also to earlier

Originally posted by Abstract
Does this X-Serve Technology bear any significance to this recent update or not? I don't think it does, but I want to hear it from someone who's not guessing like I am. ;)
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The Xserve was introduced last spring and then the technology created for it, pertaining to the motherboard (ie. I/O integration, DDR, etc.), was then used for the MDD introduced last summer. The only question was if the new 1.42's had something new in that regard and the answer is no. These for all intents and purposes are speed bumps plus FW800, AE, 4x DVD-R, and bluetooth. And realistically this is probably more to introduce the AE and Bluetooth completely into the lineup (Thus, the upcoming very soon iMacs, etc.). Because why would they want to continue making the old airport cards, which I am sure will be discontinued in a matter of months or less. And the introduction of Bluetooth into PowerMacs sort of screams the posibility of wireless keyboards, etc. later. Because Bluetooth phones w/ your PowerMac really does not make much practical sense to most users. But, I digress.

CMH
 
Originally posted by Abstract
Does this X-Serve Technology bear any significance to this recent update or not? I don't think it does, but I want to hear it from someone who's not guessing like I am. ;)
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If it were truly X-Serve technology you'd be running a entirely new PCI bus (XServe is 64-bit/66 MHz) and running the ATA-100 buses off the PCI bus in Apple Drive modules.

Since nothing has really changed, except for moving the Airport from the ATA bus to PCI bus, adding Firewire 800 (which may have only needed a new Firewire PHY - the chip acting as a hub/power), and making room for blue tooth...

It's doubtful the words XServe Technology has any bearing on the new MDD machines. They applied equally well to the old MDD machines (DDR support in the UniNorth).

XServe Technogy means nothing, it's OLD news....

[edit - Corrected a letter mistake PHY, Don't forget that snazzy new serial port the XServe is sporting ;)]
 
Once in a while they might produce a fairly speedy chip!
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Tee hee hee!

Wait, I don't know if I'm laughing because this could be true, or laughing because it's crap... methinks the latter. :p

Lately, everything coming out of Moto has been garbage. New T7xx series phones, the silver one with the color screen? There are plenty of other color phones that stomp on it. And that's the opinion of MANY reviewers, not just me. And their V70, the one that rotates open, the one that everyone said was sooooo cool... just a repackaged V.7xxx series phone! Still garbage, but in a flashy new outfit. Truth is, Moto just can't cut it - here at work, surrounded by masses of equipment from many companies, and the only one that has a Moto processor at it's heart is my Apple computer. They're just getting stomped on by a ton of other companies it seems - Sanyo, Samsung, and Sony-E in mobiles, and Intel, Hitachi, and TI in the (embedded) proccessor market.

While it's nice to see the PowerMacs updated, I'd really like to see a REAL UPGRADE - just like going fom the old CRT iMacs to the new LCD iMacs. Something REALLY BIG. And at the heart, new processors from NOT MOTOROLA! This upgrade feels like a holdover - perhaps good things are on their way.
 
Originally posted by JtheLemur

This upgrade feels like a holdover - perhaps good things are on their way.
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That sounds familiar. I thought the first round of MDDs were supposed to be holdovers with their "fake" DDR until the next round of G4s came out that could actually take advantage of it.
 
They're not overclocked

Originally posted by Freg3000

Ok, I don't get this at all. When the 1.25 Ghz came out, everyone said, "it's just a overclocked 1.0 Ghz!" Now the 1.42 Ghz comes out, and some say it's a 1.25 Ghz that is overclocked.
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No one has every said (correctly) that the chips are oveclocked. That's a myth, it's not true. It's like the myth of a good Pauly Shore movie. The whole point of the paragraph you quoted was to say that they are NOT overclocked.
 
No

The new is no different the old. These do not take full advantage of the DDR because of the "bottleneck" on this way out of date Motorola processor. But the monitors sure are spiffy and effectively decreasing DVD burn times by two is probably pretty nice too.

CMH
 
Thankyou for shopping...

I was bored while doing dome design...

(I know there's a funny pictures thread but I thought it might be slightly topical...)
 

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xserve updates next?

The xServe was the big dog at launch but now it's been met and passed in two revs of the desktop. I wonder what they are holding out for?

I'd have to assume:
  • Apple won't devote R&D unless the product as a run long enough to recoup cost
  • Apple will, at some point, push the xServe to a new platform (ie. new chipset, new processor)
  • The xServe's low volume makes it an attractive platform to launch new technology

If that is all true, could we assume one of the following?:
  • Apple has foregone regular xserve updates, waiting for all the parts to materialize for a major overhaul.... or
  • the xServe is marketed as a stand alone server (web server, mail server...), not a 1U number cruncher... so faster processors aren't a big concern since the rest of the system can't keep up in I/O anyway..... or
  • Maybe Apple will release a rack server that IS designed to be a number cruncher, so they aren't concerned about keeping the CPU power of the xServe on the {Motorola} bleeding edge?

I'm sincerely hoping it's the first reason... :) :D
 
Noise levels of previous Mac lineup

Now that the new lineup is here, I really wanted to purchase the discounted Dual 867. Does anyone have real comparisons about the noise levels of these PowerMacs? I have a Dual 450 (Gigabit Ethernet). Is the Dual 867 any noisier than this bunch?:confused:
 
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