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PowerMac and Xserve Revisions at MWSF 2004?

Re: I hate to be the spoiler...

Originally posted by ShnikeJSB
<This newer process means cooler chips, which mean 64 BIT POWERBOOKS!!!!

YIPPIE!!

You all didn't think Apple wouldn't be the first to produce a 64 bit laptop now did you?>

I hate to spoil your fun Sailfish...

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9486,00.html
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darn,

Well if Apple says it's the first 64 laptop then I guess I'll have to believe it. ; )

Let's see how we can say it with it sounding like it is anyway?

"The first 64 bit portable laptop"
"The first 64 bit personal laptop"
"The first 64 bit affordable laptop" (yea right)

Ain't propoganda wonderful?

"The first 64 bit watercooled laptop" (now that's a possiblity from what I've read)

"The first 64 bit watercooled, fuel cell laptop" (just don't bring it on a plane with you)

BOOM!
 
Originally posted by fussball
If Apple update the G5 towers and XServes, along with some i-applications.. I wonder if still hoping for PB updates will be too much?
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Absolutely. We always over-expect in the rumor community, so there is always some disappointment.

The exciting part is that we don't know which of the 10-20 rumors will actually come true, so we get to pour our expectations in our favorite item(s). So keep hoping for improved laptops, towers, servers, applications, cheap iPods, video iPods, LCDs, or whatever.
 
It certainly would make sense to put a G5 in the XServe (well, duh, I hear you saying). Given that they're going in server rooms, noise isn't an issue - so they could put a big ol' honkin' fan in the thing and have it sounding like a jet engine.

G5 powerbooks... I know there are a tiny number of people who would actually make good use of these. A larger number would just think they need it. My 1.25GHz G4 Powerbook does just fine by me, and I haven't yet had a "heck why is this taking so long?" moment. :) For that matter my previous computer was a Dell laptop with a 600MHz PIII in it - once I put enough RAM in the thing it didn't have any significant speed issues either. For most people processor speed no longer matters, because the pace of improvement (even by Motorola) has outpaced what peoples' apps need for the most part. It's all pretty much marketing anymore for the personal computer market. Dell says you need a 2.4GHz P4 for "basic Web browsing and e-mail", for goodness sake! :-D Gotta sell new computers somehow!! But if you put a good video card in a machine and enough RAM, the processor speed is not going to be an issue.
 
it strikes me that there are no rumors about new moto chips, so if we get a chip with 1.6 Ghz clock, it will come in the form of the 970, or the mythical new750.

and coolkamio- do you really think that apple could get better battery life than tadpole's and voodoo's?
if both of the existing mobile64-bit chipsets: amd and sparc yield a poor 1.5hrs battery life, apple's desktop-style 64bit chip will not have better battery life

as for weight- the wallstreet was 7.8 lbs..

originally posted by coolkamio
8lbs+ with a 15" screen and a theoretical battery of 3Hours (1,5Hours really) IS NOT TRULY A LAPTOP IS A PORTABLE COMPUTER..
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Originally posted by fussball
If Apple update the G5 towers and XServes, along with some i-applications.. I wonder if still hoping for PB updates will be too much? It's all I really want, come on guys!
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In previous updates apple has rarely done three products at one time. xServe by itself would be huge news. Consider making a big mac cluster with xServes instead of Powermacs.

Interesting to say the least. Although I wonder about the cooling. Assuming a multiple U setup, 9 fans? Maybe they'll even jump to a 4 processor setting and finally take the xServe to a professional level.
 
Originally posted by ~Shard~
I'm pretty sure the rumors are true and we will definitely be seeing these speed bumps @ MWSF. Ah, I can't wait to hear all the complaining. Remember all those crybabies who complained of being ripped off after buying 1.8 G5s, when the DP 1.8 G5s were then released only 2 months later? I can hear the posts being typed up as we speak, in anticipation: "I just got my DP 1.8 GHz G5 (or DP 2.0 GHz G5) a month ago and now it sucks! I got so ripped off man! How can Apple do this to me!!!"

And I will experience much enjoyment responding to those posts. :cool:
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got a kick out of your post, we had so many years of little to no advancement with moto, we were immune to this kind of thing but now IBM has come along and we have PROGRESS! How are we going to be able to deal with it i just dont know.:D
 
Originally posted by Mr.Hey
You're salivating at the mere idea of it now!.....remind me to stay clear of you when this happens.
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You know it, Mr. Hey. It's what I live for. :cool:

(I need an "evil happy face icon" to express these types of sentiments...)
 
Re: AppleInsider says...

Originally posted by From Win to Mac
that we'll get DUAL 2.0, DUAL 2.2 and DUAL 2.4 Ghz in January. This means that the price for the low-end PowerMac will go up again, to the level it was when they launched the G5 :mad:

Oh well, i'll have to pay 300$ more. :p
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If the low-end goes to G5 launch prices, you'll still be getting a dual 2.0 for only $1999! That's $1000 cheaper than it is right now. How is that a bad thing?
 
Originally posted by jouster
Sheesh, does anyone read before they post? Did it really need FIVE people to post about there already being 64 bit notebooks?
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My apologies - I amdit I am guilty of reading a new thread, and replying to posts as I read them, while thoughts are fresh in my mind. If I had read all of them to begin with, I probably wouldn't have posted, you're right.

You got me! ;)
 
Originally posted by x86isslow
it strikes me that there are no rumors about new moto chips, so if we get a chip with 1.6 Ghz clock, it will come in the form of the 970, or the mythical new750.

and coolkamio- do you really think that apple could get better battery life than tadpole's and voodoo's?
if both of the existing mobile64-bit chipsets: amd and sparc yield a poor 1.5hrs battery life, apple's desktop-style 64bit chip will not have better battery life

as for weight- the wallstreet was 7.8 lbs..
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Are u talking about a apple laptop announced 6 years ago?
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_300.html

Only 5 years ago and..
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_333.html

5,9lbs...

The newton weight much more than today pda's...

Wake me up when i can buy a 12" ~2kg laptop with 4 to 5+hours with a 64bit processor.. (Belive me, Apple will do it before anyone, ALWAYS DO IT)

The G5 at 130micras uses less power than athlon 64, at 90 micras with powertune technology it will be the perfect companion for a mobile digital video studio..
Message to Apple:
High Performance
High Battery
Lightweight machine
Bring it on!!!
 
Originally posted by ethernet76
In previous updates apple has rarely done three products at one time. xServe by itself would be huge news. Consider making a big mac cluster with xServes instead of Powermacs.

Interesting to say the least. Although I wonder about the cooling. Assuming a multiple U setup, 9 fans? Maybe they'll even jump to a 4 processor setting and finally take the xServe to a professional level.
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while the Xserve is due for an update, the Expos have traditionally been the platform to highlight Apple's consumer products, e.g. the iMac launch of 2002.
 
There is no reason why Apple could not release the Dual 2.6 GHz as a "Build-to-Order" option... that way they could charge $4000+ (with hefty amounts of RAM) and not have to worry about supply delays.
 
If a dual 2.4 is the best Apple can do for January, I won't be saying "Wow!" More like "Yawn." However if the Cube were to return with a G5 for less than $1500 I would be pleased.

A super expensive high end tower for chips in limited supply is a good idea.
 
Do the math...

Let's do the math on a 42U rack:

Supposing the Xserve stays in it's current 1U form factor...

42 Xserves
84 processors (dual in each machine)
84x2.6 Ghz = 218.4 Ghz per rack!!!

Now, times that by the number of racks in the Virginia Tech cluster (Big Mac). That's quite a bit of power!:D

And I would be happy to have 1 measly 1.6 Ghz G5... :p
 
Re: Do the math...

Originally posted by geerlingguy
Let's do the math on a 42U rack:

Supposing the Xserve stays in it's current 1U form factor...

42 Xserves
84 processors (dual in each machine)
84x2.6 Ghz = 218.4 Ghz per rack!!!

Now, times that by the number of racks in the Virginia Tech cluster (Big Mac). That's quite a bit of power!:D
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*IF* there was a 2.6 Xserve released, you would only be required to have 21 racks to equal the processing power of VT. That means you can have the same processing with 1/6th the space. That would likely lower the cooling requirements and lower the over all cost.

[edit] Of course I meant a dual 2.6 Ghz.
 
My wish list for MYSF
Single 2.0, Dual 2.2 Dual 2.4
DDR-II 533
A second drive bay for 2 optical drives and 4 Hard drives
Another PCI slot allowing use of the latest Nvidia videocards and still have three usuable slots
2 more USB 2.0 slots on the back and a second one on the front
1 more Firewire 400 and 800 on the back.
 
Originally posted by jouster
Sheesh, does anyone read before they post? Did it really need FIVE people to post about there already being 64 bit notebooks?
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Yes ;), Look, they are excited about rumored products. Not to say the thought of 2.6 G5 PM's aren't awesome though. I just hope that we get a new line of drivers for the PM's vid cards, I want to know that these babbies are getting full use of AMD and Nvidia's offerings. Also....it might be nice to have a revison of those apple "pro" speakers. :p just some thoughts
 
Originally posted by Steradian
I just hope that we get a new line of drivers for the PM's vid cards, I want to know that these babbies are getting full use of AMD and Nvidia's offerings. Also....it might be nice to have a revison of those apple "pro" speakers. :p just some thoughts
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How about a 2-button mouse too?

Kay, JUST KIDDING, before people start ripping into me for saying that... ;)
 
Originally posted by BenRoethig
My wish list for MYSF
Single 2.0, Dual 2.2 Dual 2.4
DDR-II 533
A second drive bay for 2 optical drives and 4 Hard drives
Another PCI slot allowing use of the latest Nvidia videocards and still have three usuable slots
2 more USB 2.0 slots on the back and a second one on the front
1 more Firewire 400 and 800 on the back.
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Nice, thought I'd like them to be all dual, and add ECC memory and integrated fibrechannel on the mid and highend model, so that any doubts about PowerMacs not being workstations can be cleared away.
 
I think that once a G5 finds its way into a Server, a lot of companies will be looking to purchase an apple server. The added power of a G5 is amazing. However, compared to even that of higher end processors, such of which the G5 is based off of, major enterprises are still going to want those higher end servers.
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couldn't agree with you more animemaster ;)
 
I hope for the day when speed bumps aren't taken as huge advancements in the mac community. I find myself saying, "Oh, they have a 3.2 Pentium now, how cute."

As opposed to the 2 month hype here.
 
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