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PowerMac G5 Revision in Jan 2004?

Originally posted by Falleron
No need to get personal...
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I think it was a joke guys... btw, chicks who dig guys who talk, also dig guys who are overly sensitive. 🙂

My Powerbook 1GHz is grindingly slow... it really bugs me to click FILE in dreamweaver.. and having to sit and wait for it to pop-up... ugh, we need g5 powerbooks.

As for a g5 iMac.. sure sure, but let's get our priorities lined up first.

Powermac, Powerbook, xserve, then it doesnt matter... I'm willing to pay for cutting edge.. just give me something that's sharp! 🙂
 
Negative vote?

10 people have voted this story as negative?! How is this negative? I suppose we should have a "believable, unbelievable" from now on...
 
Originally posted by cr2sh
My Powerbook 1GHz is grindingly slow... it really bugs me to click FILE in dreamweaver.. and having to sit and wait for it to pop-up... ugh, we need g5 powerbooks.
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Sorry I thought you said "Dreamweaver is the friggin' slowest web design app I have ever used in my entire life on my rocket 1GHz laptop!" which would be a closer approximation of true 😛


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Motorola = Disappointment since 1983.
 
Re: Faster!

Originally posted by yamabushi
If the max speed is only 2.5GHz in 1Q 2004 I will be disappointed. 🙁 I want to see Macs so fast that benchmark test results will be beyond debate. Sorry but 2.5 is just a ho-hum upgrade. 3.0 in January would be a spectacular upgrade, even if IBM could only make future improvements of 500MHz every six months. I hope we see faster speeds than 2.5 in January but I won't hold my breath.🙄
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Oh, come on... 🙂 We've been getting 100 to 250 MHz upgrades (or less) for the past 3 years. Granted, the more MHz you start with, the more you need to grow proportionally... but just the fact that IBM and Apple can boost a machine that is already on par with any PC even faster is great.

You do bring up an interesting point, however. I think Apple may have an Ace up it's sleeve. Perhaps that can pull out a 2.8 GHz part for some uber configuration?
 
Originally posted by encro
Sorry I thought you said "Dreamweaver is the friggin' slowest web design app I have ever used in my entire life on my rocket 1GHz laptop!" which would be a closer approximation of true 😛


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Motorola = Disappointment since 1983.
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Amen! Dreamweaver is slow on both PC and Mac... it might be the most sluggish high profile commercial app I have ever used. Seriously. I'm not trying to bash it, it's just true from my perspective.
 
Originally posted by Frobozz
Amen! Dreamweaver is slow on both PC and Mac... it might be the most sluggish high profile commercial app I have ever used. Seriously. I'm not trying to bash it, it's just true from my perspective.
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Well GoLive is right there with it and I was thinking of switching to dreamweaver because GoLive was so slow... well I'll probably still swith.. 🙄
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: What ?

Originally posted by IndyGopher
Yup. Damn that Steve Jobs... I bet he sneaks into IBM's labs and screws with their designs just to make it take longer to reach 3GHz.

The only TUNE he's singing is whatever timeframe IBM hands him. He got a little over-anxious, said they'd be out in a year, and someone from IBM pulled him aside and told him to relax the time-frame a bit. There's no way you can pin a delay in a SPEED BUMP on him.
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Just stating the facts. At WWDC, Jobs said, "IBM and Apple are today announcing......" As he didn't say "Apple is today announcing...", I take that to mean he said it with IBM's concurrence. Now the timeframe has changed. Just calling 'em as I see 'em.
 
Originally posted by nighthawk
So IBM is packing the equivelent of 4 1.6 GHz 970 CPUs in a single 1U rack mount space. That sounds pretty encouraging for the XServe.

What do you think would get better performance: Dual 2.0 GHz or Quad 1.6 GHz?
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Quad... of course it depends on what you are using it for (database stuff I would presume).
 
Originally posted by dieselg4
A guy at CompUSA told me they were not, saying somehting about the CPU and the Board being built speciically for each other. Whether or not he knew what he wwas talking about is anohter matter.
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He did. System bus is running 1/2 speed of the proc.

This is a good way of explaining the relative cost of a G5 system versus P4 sytems.
 
Originally posted by coolfactor
I was wondering why American's pronounce "badminton" as "badmitten".. cuz they spell it that way! Sorry, off topic.

I think Apple needs to keep pushing forward with the development of their systems, but also keep upping the ante on the overall user experience. I just purchased a 1GHz eMac, and it's no faster than my 500Mhz iBook in terms of performance and productivity. That was a shocker to me. Maybe the extra 512MB RAM that I'm getting will make a difference.
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coolfactor is right!
But then, coolfactor is ALWAYS right!
He is SOOO COOL!
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: It is great that Apple may be starting to catchup

Originally posted by mvc
Ahh I was wondering if someone would drag Schroedinger's poor confused cat into this.
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Now, what if we throw in Pavlov's dog into the same box with Schroedinger's cat...would they both be dead, or just one of them?
 
Originally posted by i_wolf
mvc: dude there are many aspects of my life and interests that i have. computing happens to be one of them. i come here because its a tech/computer forum where i would imagine like minded people reside. when im out with mates we take footie, films, women etc... If i want to do that il talk to my mates. if i want to talk comp il come in here. whats the problem.. what have i said that has offended you?? All i have done is mention a few facts....
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Relax, its a joke, I am glad you have a life, so do I, but you have to admit your posts take a lot of reading - perhaps splitting it into more paragraphs would help. It's not like you are the only one, but when two techos start a major argument and begin quoting each other furiously, the posts tend to become enormous and unreadable, which benefits no-one's argument or those others who read the board.

Thats my opinion, but maybe it's just the graphic designer in me crying out for "more white space!"
😛


Edit - the Graphic designer in me fixng sum speling mistaks
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: It is great that Apple may be starting to catchup

Originally posted by edenwaith
Now, what if we throw in Pavlov's dog into the same box with Schroedinger's cat...would they both be dead, or just one of them?
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Ha - well they would both be dead if the box was under the tree that fell in the forest while nobody was listening. 😛
 
Originally posted by tomdavies
Believe it or not, the existence of faster computers does not make yours slower!
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But it can lead to Gigahertz Envy.

A faster processor is like viagra for my soft ware. 😉
 
Re: Negative vote?

Originally posted by Frobozz
10 people have voted this story as negative?! How is this negative? I suppose we should have a "believable, unbelievable" from now on...
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It would be good to have "believable, unbelievable" as well as "good, bad". 2 distinct ways of responding to rumors of an Apple TV or whatever.
 
Re: What ?

Originally posted by IndyGopher
The only TUNE he's singing is whatever timeframe IBM hands him. He got a little over-anxious, said they'd be out in a year, and someone from IBM pulled him aside and told him to relax the time-frame a bit. There's no way you can pin a delay in a SPEED BUMP on him.
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I'm sure that could have happened, but if he is the head of Apple then he kinda represents where Apple is going.

But rather than imply Steve should have my values - how would he react if Apple has a subcontractor (X) building iMacs and they promise January, then turn around and say they're late because some other group (Y) hasn't given them the widgets they need - who's he going to blame X or Y?

(Sorry 🙂 - this may be a little personal - my ISP was down for a while and said I shouldn't complain to them because it was their wholesaler's fault. Not good enough.)
 
Originally posted by encro
my rocket 1GHz laptop!" which would be a closer approximation of true 😛
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I guess its all about perspective. From the cockpit of my rocketship.. things look pretty darn slow. 🙂
 
Re: Re: hmmm . .

Originally posted by vannote
These IBM processors are based on IBM's own PowerPC designs for it's own high-end servers, Power4, Power5, etc...

Considering IBM is waging it's own performance wars with other HPC (High Performance Computing) hardware vendors, they wont let these processor designs get stagnant for a heartbeat.
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speaking of which...

That may be why we haven't seen updated Xserves. In fact, I worry that there might not be more Xserves any time soon. With IBM's server leaning, I think there would be some toe-stepping if the two ended up competing in the server market with IBM's processors.

I wonder if there is some sort of implicit understanding regarding Apple's position in that market, and if the incredible cluster power of the PowerMac G5's was not irksome to IBM (thus prompting them to respond with PPC970 blades).
 
Re: It is great that Apple may be starting to catchup

Originally posted by RichardCarletta
How fast does the fastest personal computer realy need to run to make people happy ?
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I want my Mac to scroll thru a long HTML page in Dreamweaver the same speed my Atari 1040ST scrolled thru a lengthy text file in Tempus, back in 1986. We're talking 68000, 1MB RAM, 8MHz.
 
Re: Re: Faster!

Originally posted by Frobozz
Oh, come on... 🙂 We've been getting 100 to 250 MHz upgrades (or less) for the past 3 years.
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That's why we could use a large boost right now to catch up to where we ought to be. We've been starved for years and need a feast to fatten up again.
You do bring up an interesting point, however. I think Apple may have an Ace up it's sleeve. Perhaps that can pull out a 2.8 GHz part for some uber configuration?
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I would be very happy to see 2.8GHz. I might even stop my whining for more power for several months.😀
 
Dual 1.8 G5 Monday?

Has anyone heard of a rumor that as early as this Monday, that the Current middle range G5, the 1.8Ghz one, will become a dual processor machine? Perhaps the line up would be a dual 2Ghz, a dual 1.8Ghz mid range and 1.8Ghz entry level? I heard this from a poster on a MacOS X list hosted by themacintoshguy.com, they claimed to hear it from a dealer.
 
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