But memory is so cheap, another 256MB wouldn't cost hardly anything, especially with the kind of bulk buy orders they can put through.DTG said:
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PowerMac G5 Updates - March 23rd?
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That'll be on my lady's birthday! I hope I don't get too excited about one of those events that I forget the other!
Face it, it's about due, so there's no real surprise. My guess after that is the top end PM will get another lift in Aug-Sep time along with the PB range. Then a G5 iMac by Christmas and a chocolate coated iBook in time for Valentines.
Ignoring all of that puff though, I was expecting a better graphics card. Perhaps that'll be later.
Face it, it's about due, so there's no real surprise. My guess after that is the top end PM will get another lift in Aug-Sep time along with the PB range. Then a G5 iMac by Christmas and a chocolate coated iBook in time for Valentines.
Ignoring all of that puff though, I was expecting a better graphics card. Perhaps that'll be later.
Kid Red said:
Maybe they dont have enough of those chips for the xserve G5 and the powermac. It seems there has been much larger demand for the xserve G5 than Apple were expecting. More likely just to differentiate the models though I guess. Dual 2 to Dual 2.4GHz wouldnt be a very wide spread for the product line, many people would maybe just plump for the dual 2 and stack up the RAM and graphics card rather than go for the top of the line, I sure would.
DTG said:
Somehow I doubt.
I do find it interesting that they are all duals, this might be to distance them from the new G5 iMAC!
Kid Red said:
Yup this surprises me. I woudl imagine that dual 2GHz will be the bottom line.
However, again I'm a bit surprised about such a "small" speed bump. Especially since we know that the 970FX is scaling well to 2.5GHz and beyond according to IBM whitepapers. Also Steve's promise last Summer that this Summer we would be seeing 3GHz PowerMacs now looks a bit off the mark. I think if this is the update that is due, its a bit disappointing. Also AMD is due to hit 2.4 to 2.6GHz if you believe roadmaps shown by the inquirer in the April May time frame. To remain an x86 killer the G5 needs that extra oomph.
I think its good the G5 is getting a speed bump, but if this rumor holds through, it would mean that a 3GHz G5 is a lot longer off than this Summer and more than likely the end of the year. I just had my hopes up is all!
Ho hum
No big boost on the mid and top of the line, but the entry DP 1.8 is nice. Hopefully they can deliver it at $1599 like the DP G4 867 was when that was the low end. At that price, I'd bite! But 400 MHz or 20% after 7 months on the high end is pretty sad. You'd also think a top of the line machine would have more than 512MB RAM and 160GB HD. I think the weird thing about this rumor is that it overlaps with the current RAM promotion, unless there is some specific wording in that offer about what macs it applies to by model #. It will be an even bigger disappointment if these don't ship immediately. I'm beginning to think that when Jobs said the G5 would be at 3GHz in year last June, he meant within IBMs labs, just as the G5 was a 2GHz that time last year, but took another 4 months to ship in volume. I think October is now probably a good bet for the 3GHz G5. Also, remember the new 90nm G5 has more pipeline stages so don't look for proportionate scaling (i.e. like the G4 733 was only marginally faster than the older G4 version 533).
No big boost on the mid and top of the line, but the entry DP 1.8 is nice. Hopefully they can deliver it at $1599 like the DP G4 867 was when that was the low end. At that price, I'd bite! But 400 MHz or 20% after 7 months on the high end is pretty sad. You'd also think a top of the line machine would have more than 512MB RAM and 160GB HD. I think the weird thing about this rumor is that it overlaps with the current RAM promotion, unless there is some specific wording in that offer about what macs it applies to by model #. It will be an even bigger disappointment if these don't ship immediately. I'm beginning to think that when Jobs said the G5 would be at 3GHz in year last June, he meant within IBMs labs, just as the G5 was a 2GHz that time last year, but took another 4 months to ship in volume. I think October is now probably a good bet for the 3GHz G5. Also, remember the new 90nm G5 has more pipeline stages so don't look for proportionate scaling (i.e. like the G4 733 was only marginally faster than the older G4 version 533).
Sounds good (was hoping that a 2.3 would be the mid range and 2.5 the upper)
Also, what about a pro video card? And the displays.....hopefully there will be more available soon in terms of rumors to back this up.
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Also, what about a pro video card? And the displays.....hopefully there will be more available soon in terms of rumors to back this up.
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The timing seems about right, but the specs look a little strange to me. If these are correct, then Apple will not be selling any machines with 2.0GHz processors, starting in only 2 weeks. That would suggest there should be a lead time on the current dual 2Gigs as purchasing would stop and production would wind down. You don't run full-tilt and then suddenly stop making an item.
So, either Apple has nerves of steel and will risk simply not having any 2GHz's for sale between the time they run out and the time they release the new ones, or we should see wait times on the 2's grow in a fairly linear fashion between now and then.
Another couple possibilities would be an education-only version with a single 2GHz CPU, or perhaps the rumor is just off on the specs and the low ends will be 2's instead of 1.8's. (I hesitated to point this out, frankly, because someone will absolutely pipe up with the notion that Apple will be putting the 2GHz CPUs in Powerbooks... Hope springs eternal)
So, either Apple has nerves of steel and will risk simply not having any 2GHz's for sale between the time they run out and the time they release the new ones, or we should see wait times on the 2's grow in a fairly linear fashion between now and then.
Another couple possibilities would be an education-only version with a single 2GHz CPU, or perhaps the rumor is just off on the specs and the low ends will be 2's instead of 1.8's. (I hesitated to point this out, frankly, because someone will absolutely pipe up with the notion that Apple will be putting the 2GHz CPUs in Powerbooks... Hope springs eternal)
So what happened to the 2.5/2.6 Ghz we heard of before? Could it be they tried them but couldn't get them to run cool enough?
Anyway, if they are immediately available on the 23rd I'll be happy, then I can finally upgrade from my noisy Dual 867 windtunnel.
Anyway, if they are immediately available on the 23rd I'll be happy, then I can finally upgrade from my noisy Dual 867 windtunnel.
gwuMACaddict said:WOOHOO!!!!
Exactly how I was feeling about it.
Tho I want Apple to keep the same price framework.
I like the headlessMac alternative to the iMac at that entry level price point.
I suspect the price on the entry PowerMac will go up now.
I am glad I didn't wait when they were introduced. I have fully enjoyed by G5 since September. Hopefully it will come down in price so every Mac lover could own one.
Some_Big_Spoon said:
Well the 256 RAM would be the same amount of RAM as the 1.6 PowerMac has now....so maybe it's just to push the lowest system's price even lower.
Whenever these new powermacs show up, I also hope there are display updates. It would be nice to have them fit the aluminum theme.
Low memory is good
Frankly, I'm glad that they will have (if they come out) such a low amount of memory. Apple gouges consumers on memory. Take a look at the apple store. To upgrade to the full 8GB of memory on a PMG5 costs more than the computer itself (US$4,950)! Why not just head over to www.coastmemory.com and get the same 8GB of memory for US$2,152? That's less than HALF the price! For the same freakin' memory!
Frankly, I'm glad that they will have (if they come out) such a low amount of memory. Apple gouges consumers on memory. Take a look at the apple store. To upgrade to the full 8GB of memory on a PMG5 costs more than the computer itself (US$4,950)! Why not just head over to www.coastmemory.com and get the same 8GB of memory for US$2,152? That's less than HALF the price! For the same freakin' memory!
Believe it when I see it.
Always one to be hopeful, but I am waiting to see it.
All the rumors have pointed to Macworld. Then to February. Then to March. Then some point to the Developers Conference (maybe the 3.Ghz).
Well, its been 10 months since the first G5 was announced and I hope the delays are justified. (Was it held up due to QC? Was it help up because of nVidia or ATI card production? Is the latest 10.3.3 seed the OS for the new machines? Will we see 8x DVDR?)
Crossed fingers here.
Always one to be hopeful, but I am waiting to see it.
All the rumors have pointed to Macworld. Then to February. Then to March. Then some point to the Developers Conference (maybe the 3.Ghz).
Well, its been 10 months since the first G5 was announced and I hope the delays are justified. (Was it held up due to QC? Was it help up because of nVidia or ATI card production? Is the latest 10.3.3 seed the OS for the new machines? Will we see 8x DVDR?)
Crossed fingers here.
IndyGopher said:
You could also see a G5 2GHz in a 20" iMac and G5 1.8GHz in the 17" iMac. Hope springs eternal.
lasuther
MrToast said:
sheesh. i couldn't agree more. some of us are geeks who know how to buy our own parts and put things together. i wish apple has a configuration like this: Processor, Motherboard, Case, Power Supply. I know where to buy the hard disk, ram, and burner myself for half the cost of all their parts.
Photorun said:Yay! Now where the hell are the new monitors?
I agree! At least some update on the monitors would be nice, if just a change in look to match the G5. But, at least this update is coming before April (if true). This would still put them on track for a 3Ghz machine to be shipped by Sept. Now, if these are annonced on March 23 but don't ship until May, that would be a problem.
Time line:
2.0 G5 announced July (late June) shipped Sept.
2.4 G5 announced March (6 months from last Sept.)
3.0 G5 announced July (late June WWDC) ships Sept.??
Limited on purpose?
Maybe they limit the speed to 2.4 Ghz on purpose now, so when they introduce the 3.0 Ghz it will look like a nicer upgrade.
Early rumors of the rev B going all the way to 2.7/2.8 Ghz would make the introduction of the 3.x Ghz machine in August/September a less impressive update, while going from 2.4 to 3.0 of maybe even 3.2 will be great.
Maybe they limit the speed to 2.4 Ghz on purpose now, so when they introduce the 3.0 Ghz it will look like a nicer upgrade.
Early rumors of the rev B going all the way to 2.7/2.8 Ghz would make the introduction of the 3.x Ghz machine in August/September a less impressive update, while going from 2.4 to 3.0 of maybe even 3.2 will be great.
i_wolf said:
Steve never said "3.0 GHz by the Summer 2004", he said "3.0 GHz within a year". This was back in September when he said that (though the first G5's didn't actually ship until October), and it's March now, so it looks like Apple could be on track with their 3GHz claim, boosting CPU speed every 6 months.
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