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MacRumors will influence Apple.

Easy solution
All the MacRumors readers that really want to steer Apple should form an interest group, pool finances and aggressively buy Apple stock. Eventually (within 5-6 years given availability) you may become a majority share-holder and can dictate the company's stance and product development cycle.
Otherwise just sit here and wait for the product you want, Apple is a publicly owned company that with the grace of it's board and shareholders can just let it all go and give up on high-tech and make yo-yo's and you as consumers can do nothing about it.
The company very obviously tries to excite it's consumers and that is it's part of the loyalty arrangement, and when it does excite then it's consumers buy the exciting products completing their half of said arrangement.
If only Apple was a state run department and all citizens were due their allowance of it's production run.
 
This thread is wayyyyyy to old.

This thread should have been closed 1 month, and 2 days ago!!!! :rolleyes:

Its very simple! updates sometime between now and the end of WWDC! Be Happy!
 
AppleJustWorks said:
This thread should have been closed 1 month, and 2 days ago!!!! :rolleyes:

Its very simple! updates sometime between now and the end of WWDC! Be Happy!

I'm also amazed with the longevity. This is a G5 rumors thread, so as long as there is something to talk about it will continue. If true it still has another 2 months and 2 days to live. :D
 
My disgust over the delay is not with the lack of increase in chip frequency or 90 nm 970 or whatever, it is with the shoddy construction of the rev a g5's- I'm waiting for a reliable successor. I'd be more than happy to buy one if it weren't for the fan control problems and the terrible (i mean TERRIBLE) noises from the power supply. Apple has not resolved these problems for rev. a customers- they claim to have solved the noises with new power supplies but it doesn't solve the issue- check out digidesign forums and apple support for the many-thousand-thread-long posts about these issues remaining...if Apple support doesn't delete them first to try and cover up the problem (reminder of logic board lawsuits anyone?). I personally know 2 people who bought rev a g5's, and both of them have had to have them worked on. If not for this- I'd gladly shell out for a dual 2.0- until then- more of the long long wait.
 
lucky me

Bhennies said:
My disgust over the delay is not with the lack of increase in chip frequency or 90 nm 970 or whatever, it is with the shoddy construction of the rev a g5's- I'm waiting for a reliable successor. I'd be more than happy to buy one if it weren't for the fan control problems and the terrible (i mean TERRIBLE) noises from the power supply. Apple has not resolved these problems for rev. a customers- they claim to have solved the noises with new power supplies but it doesn't solve the issue- check out digidesign forums and apple support for the many-thousand-thread-long posts about these issues remaining...if Apple support doesn't delete them first to try and cover up the problem (reminder of logic board lawsuits anyone?). I personally know 2 people who bought rev a g5's, and both of them have had to have them worked on. If not for this- I'd gladly shell out for a dual 2.0- until then- more of the long long wait.

We must be pretty damn lucky. Our dual 2GHz works just fine. We do get the processor whine but that is fixed by a simple cpu register modification (one command in a shell)
I've worked on a number of G5s and I've thought they were all excellent, quality machines.
 
Bhennies said:
My disgust over the delay is not with the lack of increase in chip frequency or 90 nm 970 or whatever, it is with the shoddy construction of the rev a g5's- I'm waiting for a reliable successor. I'd be more than happy to buy one if it weren't for the fan control problems and the terrible (i mean TERRIBLE) noises from the power supply. Apple has not resolved these problems for rev. a customers- they claim to have solved the noises with new power supplies but it doesn't solve the issue- check out digidesign forums and apple support for the many-thousand-thread-long posts about these issues remaining...if Apple support doesn't delete them first to try and cover up the problem (reminder of logic board lawsuits anyone?). I personally know 2 people who bought rev a g5's, and both of them have had to have them worked on. If not for this- I'd gladly shell out for a dual 2.0- until then- more of the long long wait.


Exactly! This is a huge reason why we need regular updates more than once a year that I have overlooked. When a problem like this occurs, they rarely change the manufacturing process.... they just adopt a policy that people who call in to complain get a new part sent to them. That just isnt the way to do business. Im sure more than just a few people have had the problems, didnt call, and just made a decision to not buy Apple in the future, Audio professionals especially.

Another thing that MANY have demanded is room for two optical drives and more than 2 internal bays. In such a robust machine it makes no sense to have such limited expandability. Sure, Firewire 800 is great and so are external enclosures... but they cant replace internal SATA on the bus.
 
Palador said:
Exactly! This is a huge reason why we need regular updates more than once a year that I have overlooked. When a problem like this occurs, they rarely change the manufacturing process.... they just adopt a policy that people who call in to complain get a new part sent to them. That just isnt the way to do business. Im sure more than just a few people have had the problems, didnt call, and just made a decision to not buy Apple in the future, Audio professionals especially.

Another thing that MANY have demanded is room for two optical drives and more than 2 internal bays. In such a robust machine it makes no sense to have such limited expandability. Sure, Firewire 800 is great and so are external enclosures... but they cant replace internal SATA on the bus.

I've actually heard a lot of complaints about the Firewire 800 ports. According to Barefeats.com the G4 smokes the G5 in F800 speeds. There is just some problem with the G5 F800 implementation. So F800 drives aren't a viable alternative to internal drives.
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Downdivx said:
I've actually heard a lot of complaints about the Firewire 800 ports. According to Barefeats.com the G4 smokes the G5 in F800 speeds. There is just some problem with the G5 F800 implementation. So F800 drives aren't a viable alternative to internal drives.
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You are right in that there have been some problems with the firewire in the G5 -- but there is already word that this is fixed in the new G5s.

Another argument for getting a FW800 drive is that the Apple Stores carry a nice little converter cord so you can use the drive on FW400 ports in older Macs.

I'm not arguing against internal drives -- its just that an external is perfect for some people.
 
ffakr said:
We must be pretty damn lucky. Our dual 2GHz works just fine. We do get the processor whine but that is fixed by a simple cpu register modification (one command in a shell)
I've worked on a number of G5s and I've thought they were all excellent, quality machines.

I do find it to be interesting to two divergent views of the Rev. A G5. Also get a positive view at the Apple Store, which is to be expected. :confused:
 
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