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PowerMac G5 Upgrades Announced (Officially)
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Some audio, I am in the process of acquiring software for this Macintosh, since everything I have is for Classic macs.
I am going to give Final Cut a try, so Video will come soon
Im in Australia, there are next to no refurb mac's available... if there are any at all.Multimedia said:
Multimedia said:OK. But is +600 MHz Really Worth Waking Up For? I think I'll hit the sack until the dual dual processors hit the streets. But you won't have to wake me up for that cause the earth will be rumbling all over the world.
Um, I agree...except it would be +300 Mhz...we are already at 2.7ghz.
gorkonapple said:
Welcome to 2004. These drives cost less than $40-50 for a 16x DL writer and the media is damn expensive - $5+ vs 20c for single layer.
i just sold a 20" 1.8GHZ G5 iMac because I didn't feel any significant speed gains.
All I really care about is being able to open large images quickly. processing is not so important, that's why they invented batching... but it's the loading that is the pain. and we're only talking like 8mb raw and jpegs here...
do you guys think a dual 2ghz would make a big difference? I had 1gb of ram in the imac. would have more really help? where is my bottleneck do you think? the video card?
I don't care about 3d. i don't play games...
i'm frustrated with apples hardware at the moment... the dual 2ghz is the most i could afford but i honestly doubt it would feel so much better. *sigh*
any advice?
All I really care about is being able to open large images quickly. processing is not so important, that's why they invented batching... but it's the loading that is the pain. and we're only talking like 8mb raw and jpegs here...
do you guys think a dual 2ghz would make a big difference? I had 1gb of ram in the imac. would have more really help? where is my bottleneck do you think? the video card?
I don't care about 3d. i don't play games...
i'm frustrated with apples hardware at the moment... the dual 2ghz is the most i could afford but i honestly doubt it would feel so much better. *sigh*
any advice?
Yeah, but don't forget the rumors that new iMacs will be out in less than a week, with 20" iMac 2.0GHz G5 with more RAM, larger hard drive, dual layer SuperDrive, making it more than a $500 difference, I'd say.xsnightclub said:
Had to reply to this!
You dolt , they did! It's called 56K V.94! Wake up!!!
For all those who don't know, yes, i know it was a joke!
nrd said:I'm still waiting for them to put in something faster than a 56k modem. This is such a let down. Damn you Apple! Why won't you listen to us!
You dolt , they did! It's called 56K V.94! Wake up!!!
For all those who don't know, yes, i know it was a joke!
internet access
Access to the internet in most of the US, for which broadband isn't yet available!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gopher said:
Access to the internet in most of the US, for which broadband isn't yet available!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I believe this mini update indicates (hopefully) that Apple will be back to a 6-8 month upgrade cycle on the Powermacs, like they used to do. So that would mean that they'd be due for a refresh around the Paris Expo, hopefully we'll see 3Ghz, or dual core, or at least PCIe.
here's to hoping, sad that on the day the Powermacs are updated I am waiting for the next one...
here's to hoping, sad that on the day the Powermacs are updated I am waiting for the next one...
Mostly because Apple dropped the ball and we all bought the Dell 2005FPW already.JRM PowerPod said:
Actually, nice to see the price drop. Makes the decision a little harder, but not much.
Anyone know?
If Apple stores are having a 10% off deal for Tiger on Friday, can I combine that 10% with an education discount for a 20% discount? If so, i'm cleared to purchase a new 2Ghz PM (those who call it lame, remember, we're not all upgrading from a 1.25 Dual G4 - This is to replace a G4 400Mhz)
Otherwise, Dual 1.8 would be nice too!
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If Apple stores are having a 10% off deal for Tiger on Friday, can I combine that 10% with an education discount for a 20% discount? If so, i'm cleared to purchase a new 2Ghz PM (those who call it lame, remember, we're not all upgrading from a 1.25 Dual G4 - This is to replace a G4 400Mhz)
Otherwise, Dual 1.8 would be nice too!
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MustardMan said:
I am in the same boat. I have been planning on a G5 for months, could have gotten a dual 2 for months, thought I would wait it out.
In the end, with the wait, I got a dual layer drive and a dropped LCD price.
So my order for a Dual 2.3 Ghz G5 and 23" LCD just went in with my corp discount. Add another drive and some RAM from NewEgg and we are good.
BZ
Apple ignores the mid range
So much for purchasing my first Apple system. I have been stalking the PM 1.8 single for months now and was anticipating a new price point and / or upgraded features with todays updates.
Based on extensive review of forum posts, I expected that the 1.8 single would either have a significant price drop or have upgraded features along with a minor price cut.
1- Faster processor 2Ghz
2- More memory 512MB
3- Bigger Hard drive 120 to 160
4- Upgraded video
My approach was that a minor price drop and at least 2 of the 4 upgrades above meant that I would probably make the purchase and 3 or 4 of the points above along with even a minor price drop meant that I would pull the trigger. I even had the courtesy discussion with the wife unit to let her know that I was planning a purchase.
But NO Steve Jobs shut me down and went 0 for 4. Plus OMG he kept the same price point on the 1.8 single. WTF is up with that? The $1499 hasnt been a reasonable value for that system and it is now even more pathetic.
Apple doesnt market a system for someone that wants an intermediate performance G5 with the option for upgrades. I do not want any part of an AIO system and Im left with the cute but crippled G4 mini or a grossly overpriced and feature poor 1.8 single nothing in between.
So much for purchasing my first Apple system. I have been stalking the PM 1.8 single for months now and was anticipating a new price point and / or upgraded features with todays updates.
Based on extensive review of forum posts, I expected that the 1.8 single would either have a significant price drop or have upgraded features along with a minor price cut.
1- Faster processor 2Ghz
2- More memory 512MB
3- Bigger Hard drive 120 to 160
4- Upgraded video
My approach was that a minor price drop and at least 2 of the 4 upgrades above meant that I would probably make the purchase and 3 or 4 of the points above along with even a minor price drop meant that I would pull the trigger. I even had the courtesy discussion with the wife unit to let her know that I was planning a purchase.
But NO Steve Jobs shut me down and went 0 for 4. Plus OMG he kept the same price point on the 1.8 single. WTF is up with that? The $1499 hasnt been a reasonable value for that system and it is now even more pathetic.
Apple doesnt market a system for someone that wants an intermediate performance G5 with the option for upgrades. I do not want any part of an AIO system and Im left with the cute but crippled G4 mini or a grossly overpriced and feature poor 1.8 single nothing in between.
snofseth said:
Well, these are PowerMacs, not iMacs. So it doesn't matter what graphics card the computer comes with, because you can replace it later if you don't think it's fast enough. However, you can't turn a single CPU machine into a dual CPU machine. So it seems like a no-brainer to me...get a refurbished dual 2.0, and then get a 9600, 9800, or X800 depending on how much you want to spend on the graphics card.
--Eric
For me this is disappointing. I love my current PM and was really hoping for a nice upgrade to push me into buying a new one. You know, dual core, PCIe, Blu Ray, etc. Anything. Instead, Apple releases machines that (multiprocessors aside and FW800) are technically inferior to my current machine.
When I finally do upgrade my PM I suspect I'm going to take a real bath. My machine will be 2+ years old at that point.
When I finally do upgrade my PM I suspect I'm going to take a real bath. My machine will be 2+ years old at that point.
Maybe. I just sold my 20-month-old dual 2.0 G5 PM, which I purchased at an EDU price, and made a few upgrades, for about $300 less than I paid for the thing. So to loose $300 over 20 months isn't a bad investment at all.Don M. said:
At this point, I'm not much of a power user, didn't really use the Pro features of the Power Mac (no PCI cards, no FW800, Radeon 9800 was nice for games), but I feel the updated iMac 2.0GHz G5 that is rumored to have 128MB video RAM and many other upgrades, will be fine for me. So I'm doing a slight "downgrade," but the iMac should be perfect for me, not to mention high WAF (wife approval factor), moreso than the tower and Dell LCD.Kerry Sanders said:
I just went for the 2.3 over the 2.0 for the upgrade ability since I am still using my original 350Mhz G4 Sawtooth that I have put multiple drives, video cards and proc upgrades in and it will now go on to a new life at the office.
For me, dual was the only option and the ability to go to 8GB of RAM and not having to replace the 160GB drive (I needed 250 and got another 250 GB to pair it with) was the deal.
BZ
Hard time figuring out how I feel about these upgrades for lack of a better word. The CPUs still are at the very least respectable. Sorry guys but they arent the leader of the pack anymore but they are at least in the ballpark compared to the G4 vs. the rest of the industry. So really no complaints there. YET. If Apple is still on single core, less then 3Ghz by Mac World
. The thing Im eyeing is the GPU. WTF? Why is the uber top of the line dual CPU Power Mac only shipping with 9600 and not the 9800 which can be had as a BTO feature for just under half a grand more. That, IMHO is pure, unfiltered BS. If the high end PowerMac is suppose to be high end then put high end components in it! This is the love hate relationship Im building with Apple. They pull these kind of stunts to squeeze as much money from the user as humanly possible and let me guess..you cant buy a 9800 post purchase to upgrade the system? Or can you?
Its enough to make a guy want to gnaw on his arm in frustration.
Its enough to make a guy want to gnaw on his arm in frustration.
Well the refurb 2GHz Dualies for $1649 are already gone. That was the first decent deal on a powermac since the DP 867, and it lasted all of 30 minutes. way to go Apple! I actually almost bit, given what I could ebay my MDD for. I guess I'll have to wait another year--another lost sale for Apple.
I actually almost bit, given what I could ebay my MDD for. I guess I'll have to wait another year--another lost sale for Apple.
SiliconAddict said:
Any word yet on what version of the 9600 the new pro machines are using? No sign of XT or PRO anywhere so they are probably the bottom basement versions. A two-year-old 9500 PRO would eat those non-pros, that's the real shame.
Man Look here !!!
Some of you still think that there will be a upgrade on WWDC ! Simple answer NO !!! A PowerMac has average lifetime of 6 to 8 Months so there will be no update !
For the others here we will see a update for the Single 1.8 G5 because he cam up in October or november if i remember right and apple has still some machines so we must wait a bit and see a update for this to in the next weeks or month !
I think we weill see a all ne PowerMac on Paris Expo or at latest in SF 06 (but i think thats too late) This PowerMac will have Dualcore above 3 GHz and alle this things like PCI-E etc and of course a Tower Revision but i think it will get a new name maybe G6.
Some of you still think that there will be a upgrade on WWDC ! Simple answer NO !!! A PowerMac has average lifetime of 6 to 8 Months so there will be no update !
For the others here we will see a update for the Single 1.8 G5 because he cam up in October or november if i remember right and apple has still some machines so we must wait a bit and see a update for this to in the next weeks or month !
I think we weill see a all ne PowerMac on Paris Expo or at latest in SF 06 (but i think thats too late) This PowerMac will have Dualcore above 3 GHz and alle this things like PCI-E etc and of course a Tower Revision but i think it will get a new name maybe G6.
Go to the Apple Store, under "Mac Accessories" click "Displays" and you will see:SiliconAddict said:
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Special Edition - For G5
$399.00
has 256MB DDR memory, but $400 is a chunk of change. Maybe you can find one on ebay or elsewhere for less
Abercrombieboy said:
Well..in my opinion, I'd rather wait for 3-4 months for a machine with more improvements. I mean, come on, it takes Apple 10 months to bring out this kind of update? I think Apple should've introduced this update (a lot) earlier. And now what? Another 10 months before we get to see another update? I think Apple disappointed (or should I say worried) me a little bit with this update, knowing that this will be the top-of-the-line machine for Apple for the next year to come. This update really has nothing for us to be excited about..