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PowerMac G5 Upgrades Announced (Officially)

840quadra said:
I understand what you are saying.

however, it is still a crippled system when compared to the old model. And the poster has a good point, Apple now and in the past has made a habit to cripple machines, to make the higher end models more appealing.
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What you're missing is that these are *speed* bumps as well as feature bumps. The old 2.0 DP wasn't "crippled" and dropped to the DP entry level slot; it got a speed bump to 2.3Ghz along with the feature bumps. What was the 1.8DP got a speed bump to 2 Ghz and feature tweaks.

The old model of the 2.0 DP machine has been discontinued and has been *replaced* by the 2.3Ghz machine.

Snark
 
Apple switching to Intel-compatible chips this year?

I got this from slashdot. Someone found this quote in Paul Thurrott's blog, "
This one's bizarre, but we heard at lunch today that Apple is unhappy with the PowerPC production at IBM and will be switching to Intel-compatible chips this very year. Yeah, seriously."

Here is the link: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=46175

This was posted yesterday and is something that was heard over lunch at the WinHEC conference yesterday. I don't know if he heard it from someone talking out their lowest orifice or what. But, lack of system archcitecture development over the last year in the PowerMac line indicates that something major is in the works. Or, at least I would hope. This is nothing but pure speculation but show that the "Apple to Intel-compatible CPUs" rumor is making its rounds in the upper echelon of the IT world.

AGP 8x?!? Damn, out of this world! That is some mind blowing tech.
 
jauh said:
don't think the new G5s will be a big hit, if hit at all...
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They haven't been since introduction. Look at PM sales the past 2 or 3 quarters, they suck.
 
Dell 2005FPW Currently $1,019.15 plus tax = $1,111.23 in CA

Don M. said:
Mostly because Apple dropped the ball and we all bought the Dell 2005FPW already. ;)

Actually, nice to see the price drop. Makes the decision a little harder, but not much.
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Hey Don! I'm with you. I just pulled the trigger on one of those during this outrageous sale Dell is having until midnight tonight plus a 1600 x 1200 UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1" for only $616.09 including tax. Dell is definitely the way to go. Plus the stand is superior. Saved a ton of money even over the new Apple Display prices. ;)
 
Cant believe this. I am not that happy about the current Powermacs. I might well have bought a new 2.7Ghz machine but I wont be now because I cant get the graphics card I need! I need the X800 (or something with an ADC) because it has an ADC port on it. I have an older Apple LCD + would not be able to use it with the current machines.

Get this, APPLE LCD, and cant be used with an APPLE MACHINE!

I know you can get an adapter, thats not the point.
 
ATI Has Plenty of Solutions For You

Falleron said:
Cant believe this. I am not that happy about the current Powermacs. I might well have bought a new 2.7Ghz machine but I wont be now because I cant get the graphics card I need! I need the X800 (or something with an ADC) because it has an ADC port on it. I have an older Apple LCD + would not be able to use it with the current machines.

Get this, APPLE LCD, and cant be used with an APPLE MACHINE!

I know you can get an adapter, thats not the point.
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ATI Has Plenty of Solutions For You WITH ADC Ports. And including the X800 you think they don't offer for only $499. :p
 
HelloKitty said:
Well..in my opinion, I'd rather wait for 3-4 months for a machine with more improvements. I mean, come on, it takes Apple 10 months to bring out this kind of update? I think Apple should've introduced this update (a lot) earlier. And now what? Another 10 months before we get to see another update? I think Apple disappointed (or should I say worried) me a little bit with this update, knowing that this will be the top-of-the-line machine for Apple for the next year to come. This update really has nothing for us to be excited about..
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This is not necessarily the case....
Look at it this way....
First Apple can't release what they can't get from IBM.
Second.
Suppose Apple is ready for the dual core line of PowerMacs now but can't get a sufficient supply of the CPU's from IBM yet.
If this is the case it would make sense for them to speed bump them and wait until dual core supply reaches their needs.
It is still very possible that we will see a dual-core PowerMac update by AUG/SEPT.
 
Not again...

Yeah, blame IBM. Once again, we fall behind the Windows market's performance. Apple could have chosen to go elsewhere, remember.. Intel and AMD are both shipping dual core chips already, and IBM were supposed to be the leader in this tech. They've really screwed up their chip development lately, probably by moving all their best people to CELL.

Frankly, it's a good job Apple has the iPod - without it, they would be in dire, dire straits right now. Things better turn around soon in the Pro market - we only have so much brand loyalty and it's getting stretched pretty thin.
 
Falleron said:
Yeah, I would buy the X800 separatly but the cost is high. I may as well go with the current top of the range nivdia + get the adapter from Apple (£65 I thinK). Could be used later on then in a different machine. I just dont know, it does put the price right up though.
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I have an X800, and it's a great card - my recommendation would be to buy one and leave the nVidia cards alone.
 
Well, for whatever it's worth, Apple has at least one happy customer with these barely-updated PowerMacs. I ordered a 2.7GHz machine this morning to replace my 1GHz TiBook as my primary machine. I've been itching for something with a bit more power since the middle of last year or so, and any PowerMac bump was going to be enough to get me to pull the trigger.

Sure, I'd have been happier to see PCIe or some more substantive improvements over the previous top end model, but frankly I'd have been happy buying the 2.5GHz that was for sale last week.

I'll be happy to see quad-core dual-proc 970MP boxes, too, whenever those things hit the street, but I can't justify waiting for them.
 
Dropping the single 1.8??

www.apple.com/powermac ignores the 1.8 entirely! Is it EOL'd?

Choose Wisely

The Power Mac G5 product line comes in dual 2.0GHz, dual 2.3GHz and dual 2.7GHz configurations to support your creative endeavors. They all feature a 16x SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) as standard equipment across the line. And of course they come with one FireWire 800 port, two FireWire 400 ports, three PCI-X or PCI expansion slots, three USB 2.0 ports, analog audio in, analog audio out, optical S/PDIF in, optical S/PDIF out, front headphone and speaker jack and built-in Gigabit Ethernet — all as standard equipment. All models are AirPort Extreme-ready and feature an optional internal Bluetooth module.
 
AidenShaw said:
ps: Note that the name is "double layer", not "dual layer". Let's not add confusion by using the wrong name - since when you go to buy blank disks they'll be labeled "double layer"
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I've seen more references to dual layer than double layer. Sony, for one, calls their burners dual layer.
 
qubex said:
So the ****ty updates were for real. Woe is me. Lets hope there is Something Else just around the corner, because Steve's Reality Distortion Field is starting to wear thin.
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Actually, the worse is the lack of PCIe. This is where the whole industry is heading, its lack is unexcusable. You would get a fine processor, but will not be able to buy any high end graphics card...

If only they had a single 2-2.5 Ghz proc with 1 PCI and 1-2 PCIe slots... for 1500$....
 
AidenShaw said:
ps: Note that the name is "double layer", not "dual layer". Let's not add confusion by using the wrong name - since when you go to buy blank disks they'll be labeled "double layer"
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Don't know about the states but over here its been "Dual Layer" since the format was launched back in 1997.
 
Anyone know...

...the specs on both the Dual 2 and Dual 2.3 list just the Ati Radeon 9600 as the GPU, anyone know if this card can be used to leverage Core Image in Tiger? The Tiger: Core Image page lists the 9600XT, but not the 9600.

Just wondering if how to factor this into my purchase considerations.

Thanks
 
nagromme said:
I wish they had G6s etc. but they're certainly not slow!

http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/

And they're cheaper now by up to $450--if you get a display, at least. (The top Mac no longer needs a $450 GPU upgrade to run the 30"... and the other two sizes of display have dropped in price.)
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You'll notice, of course, that they didnt include any specs for games, lol
 
~loserman~ said:
This is not necessarily the case....
Look at it this way....
First Apple can't release what they can't get from IBM.
Second.
Suppose Apple is ready for the dual core line of PowerMacs now but can't get a sufficient supply of the CPU's from IBM yet.
If this is the case it would make sense for them to speed bump them and wait until dual core supply reaches their needs.
It is still very possible that we will see a dual-core PowerMac update by AUG/SEPT.
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I agree with you, and I strongly hope that Apple will bring us another update later this year (with the 970MP, of course). Looks like Apple and IBM just doesn't have the 970MPs ready at this moment.

But I still think that if Apple had introduced this update earlier, it would make their users happier, and make the PM sales better by sending out the message:

"For you folks who need a machine desperately right now, we've got you a deal. But for those who wants a powerful machine, wait for a while, and we'll give them to you later this year."

Let's wait and see what Steve says on this year's WWDC..
 
rolley said:
Actually, the worse is the lack of PCIe. This is where the whole industry is heading, its lack is unexcusable. You would get a fine processor, but will not be able to buy any high end graphics card...

If only they had a single 2-2.5 Ghz proc with 1 PCI and 1-2 PCIe slots... for 1500$....
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Yes, I'm inclined to agree.

Plus, as a low-level programmer, I've learnt to despise the U3 system controller with a vengeance. The thing is awful. It really needs to be replaced/updated. (Hint: it's the reason the G5 machines consistently perform worse on sustained disk I/O than the G4 machines that came before them, except for the PowerMac G5 in RAID configuration.)
 
qubex said:
Yes, I'm inclined to agree.

Plus, as a low-level programmer, I've learnt to despise the U3 system controller with a vengeance. The thing is awful. It really needs to be replaced/updated. (Hint: it's the reason the G5 machines consistently perform worse on sustained disk I/O than the G4 machines that came before them, except for the PowerMac G5 in RAID configuration.)
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I dont understand the rants for no PCI-X? you can get it on BTO, so if you need one get one, and quit complaining.

or am I missing something?

also the apple site now says Tiger is available in stores now!?!?

trout
 
Trout74 said:
I dont understand the rants for no PCI-X? you can get it on BTO, so if you need one get one, and quit complaining.

or am I missing something?
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PCI Express and PCI-X are two completely different interfaces. PCI-X (the interface used by the PowerMac G5s) is an server-orientated expansion bus, basically a higher-speed extension of regular PCI that has been around for a decade. PCI Express is a completely new technology that has been appearing on Wintel machines for about a year now. PCI Express works as a general system bus, as does PCI and PCI-X, but really it is intended as a replacement for AGP, the graphics architecture. All new high-performance graphic cards are designed for PCI-Express, and AGP support is dwindling. Leaving out PCI-Express in a supposedly high-performance orientated machine as the PowerMac is inexcusable.

Hint for the future: don't tell people to quit complaining until you're sure you haven't missed anything. It doesn't exactly work in your favour.
 
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