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PowerMac G5 Video Card [Best AGP & PCI]
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That's a good boy. If you ever need to know anything on this subject, this is the man to talk to
That's a good boy. If you ever need to know anything on this subject, this is the man to talk to
Looks like I've gotten in good early, eh?
NK
I don't know but I'm running a great 2.7ghz with a 6800 Mac OEM card DDL Ultra and it is as fast if not faster than my Mac Mini 2.26 and the graphics response is BETTER.
Those old stock Mac Ultra 6800s are GREAT on the Powermac G5s. This is as fast if not faster than the Nvidia Quadro on my Powermac Quad and I don't know why... I've got eight gigs of ram compared to twelve gigs in my old Quad.
Those old stock Mac Ultra 6800s are GREAT on the Powermac G5s. This is as fast if not faster than the Nvidia Quadro on my Powermac Quad and I don't know why... I've got eight gigs of ram compared to twelve gigs in my old Quad.
BFG 6800 Ultra OC Flashed: Only one DVI port works, and strangely
First off, thanks for all the hard work. I have it running the 2130 OEM ROM and the 2119 OEM does the same thing: only one DVI port works. The one nearest the card bottom.
What's weird is, you have to plug in a DVI monitor at the top of the card, wait, then plug it back in the bottom. Sometimes it takes a time or two.
After that, if you sleep it, or reboot, you have to do it again.
Can't complain I got it for $60 shipped.
The other strange thing is clocking it at 425 mhz core, which is how it came from BFG (hence the OC) gives my graphic artifacts, but I'm guessing that's just some sort of timing issue.
I'm willing to live with the OEM core speed of 400, as it runs cooler I'm sure.
Running in a G5 2.7 dual, with two Y cables feeding the card molexes and the DVD writer.
If I have two different monitors hooked in, the monitors icon at the top next to the timeclock 'sees' the same monitor twice, the one on the working DVI port.
Any ideas on how to get both working or get rid of having to plug into each a time or two? Have not tried a DVI-VGA adapter yet.
First off, thanks for all the hard work. I have it running the 2130 OEM ROM and the 2119 OEM does the same thing: only one DVI port works. The one nearest the card bottom.
What's weird is, you have to plug in a DVI monitor at the top of the card, wait, then plug it back in the bottom. Sometimes it takes a time or two.
After that, if you sleep it, or reboot, you have to do it again.
Can't complain I got it for $60 shipped.
The other strange thing is clocking it at 425 mhz core, which is how it came from BFG (hence the OC) gives my graphic artifacts, but I'm guessing that's just some sort of timing issue.
I'm willing to live with the OEM core speed of 400, as it runs cooler I'm sure.
Running in a G5 2.7 dual, with two Y cables feeding the card molexes and the DVD writer.
If I have two different monitors hooked in, the monitors icon at the top next to the timeclock 'sees' the same monitor twice, the one on the working DVI port.
Any ideas on how to get both working or get rid of having to plug into each a time or two? Have not tried a DVI-VGA adapter yet.
Did you use the DVI enabled ROM my buddy Arti wrote?
If not, I am amazed you have DVI at all....sounds like you didn't
The ones here?
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2
All of those are for the 6800 GT, and I have an ultra, so the core is faster. Or am I supposed to use the 6800GT ROM and then use graphiccelerator?
I just need a little hint or two, I'm pretty familiar with the tools and process.
The "DVI Enabled" ROMs were written because the OEM Mac ROMs gave VGA only. Fact that you got DVI at all is interesting.
Take a "DVI Enabled" 6800GT ROM and change the device id...from memory you need to change it from 45 to 40 but you should double check that. The device id will either be right before or right after "de10" id you do a search.
You can up the core and RAM speeds to Ultra if you feel the urge. Nice thing is you can reflash in OSX. Just be sure you get device id right.
Take a "DVI Enabled" 6800GT ROM and change the device id...from memory you need to change it from 45 to 40 but you should double check that. The device id will either be right before or right after "de10" id you do a search.
You can up the core and RAM speeds to Ultra if you feel the urge. Nice thing is you can reflash in OSX. Just be sure you get device id right.
Dvi/vga
So do you lose VGA and gain DVI or will I have VGA and DVI now on both DVI ports?
Listing of device ID's from Nvidia:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...e5ST8DNKB_chte7pw&sig2=JTC5cHRzuwd3us2vGNfstQ
From that, 6800 GT is 45 , 6800 Ultra is 40
Might as well up the core and RAM to stock 6800 Ultra speeds, the core will still be 6% lower than the BFG 6800 Ultra OC speed, which is what I have.
It's in a 2.7 dual system, which I'm going to guess maybe runs a little cooler than the air cooled G5's.
So do you lose VGA and gain DVI or will I have VGA and DVI now on both DVI ports?
Listing of device ID's from Nvidia:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...e5ST8DNKB_chte7pw&sig2=JTC5cHRzuwd3us2vGNfstQ
From that, 6800 GT is 45 , 6800 Ultra is 40
Might as well up the core and RAM to stock 6800 Ultra speeds, the core will still be 6% lower than the BFG 6800 Ultra OC speed, which is what I have.
It's in a 2.7 dual system, which I'm going to guess maybe runs a little cooler than the air cooled G5's.
I answered my own question
Card is BFG 6800 Ultra OC. (speeds from BFG are 450/550 vs OEM Ultra 400/500 speed)
I went ahead and did the following:
1. downloaded DVI Enabled (Arti) rom for 6800 GT
2. Changed the speeds to 400/550 (stock 6800 Ultra Speeds) using graphicclerator
3. Edited the device ID to 40
4. flashed the ROM
VGA (using DVI to VGA adapter) and DVI both work on either port at boot. DVI works for two monitors (1 each port) after boot. Desktop spans. (probably works during boot too, I just forgot to try).
VGA and DVI can be plugged and unplugged into either port at will after boot.
So, looks like 100% working, and no downsides. I am going to keep the stock OEM GPU/RAM speeds as an earlier test showed setting the speeds to 450/550 6800 Ultra OC stock speeds had artifacting, at least in World of Warcraft. Plus, clocking it down a little will keep it cooler and make it live longer.
Now, where do I send the ROM?
Card is BFG 6800 Ultra OC. (speeds from BFG are 450/550 vs OEM Ultra 400/500 speed)
I went ahead and did the following:
1. downloaded DVI Enabled (Arti) rom for 6800 GT
2. Changed the speeds to 400/550 (stock 6800 Ultra Speeds) using graphicclerator
3. Edited the device ID to 40
4. flashed the ROM
VGA (using DVI to VGA adapter) and DVI both work on either port at boot. DVI works for two monitors (1 each port) after boot. Desktop spans. (probably works during boot too, I just forgot to try).
VGA and DVI can be plugged and unplugged into either port at will after boot.
So, looks like 100% working, and no downsides. I am going to keep the stock OEM GPU/RAM speeds as an earlier test showed setting the speeds to 450/550 6800 Ultra OC stock speeds had artifacting, at least in World of Warcraft. Plus, clocking it down a little will keep it cooler and make it live longer.
Now, where do I send the ROM?
Forgive my ignorance, but what are you using to overclock the GPU? I have a Dual 2.7 (GeForce 6800 Ultra) and a Quad 2.5 (Quadro FX4500), and am wondering if there is a good upgrade path for both of them.
x800xt : 640x480 only? And fan runs 100% on 10.5.8
I have a red PCB ATI Card, and VGA and the DVI port (using a VGA adapter) work, but I couldn't select anything other than 640x480.
The fan ran at full speed too.
You have to install the ROM Xtender as a minimum to get higher resolutions. there is also a control panel. You can get them from ATI if you select OS X 10.4 as your OS in the download support area.
I have been writing these experiments up at:
http://rcbullock.blogspot.com/2010/03/flashing-old-pc-cards-to-work-with-macs.html
OS 10.5.8 on a dual 2.7, have successfully made an FX5200, 6800 Ultra, and an X800XT. Not always a clearcut process, but read the above blog post.
I have a red PCB ATI Card, and VGA and the DVI port (using a VGA adapter) work, but I couldn't select anything other than 640x480.
The fan ran at full speed too.
You have to install the ROM Xtender as a minimum to get higher resolutions. there is also a control panel. You can get them from ATI if you select OS X 10.4 as your OS in the download support area.
I have been writing these experiments up at:
http://rcbullock.blogspot.com/2010/03/flashing-old-pc-cards-to-work-with-macs.html
OS 10.5.8 on a dual 2.7, have successfully made an FX5200, 6800 Ultra, and an X800XT. Not always a clearcut process, but read the above blog post.
id a g70?
anyone know how to identify the g70 version vs. the v71? I'm going to search on ebay...
thx,
brad
anyone know how to identify the g70 version vs. the v71? I'm going to search on ebay...
thx,
brad
Well, almost every graphic card has a sticker on the back, with some information like the ROM version, for example "5.70............" (this is the one for the flash process) or just the version of the GPU like "G70", maybe you should try brands like:
BFG, XFX and PNY
On the back of the Box there is a little window where you can see this sticker. Saludos!
@bbowens: Don't buy any of these.
In contrary to its descrpition, it's not flashable (until somebody of ROM geniuses will write proper ROM - this could never happen
So, could we assume this means you have tried?
Please tell us more.
Fortunately i don't had to (but i'm still thinking about it - it's tempting, but i'm not ROM genius, not yet). There are two threads about unsuccesful flash of one of these cards. One thread on strangedogs, second on Aquamac's forum (you know something about it, don't you? - my nick there is blacksheep).
These cards have G70 7800 GTX chip on AGP (x2 keyed!) PCB, but with disabled pipes (16 only) and lowered clocks (i think it's due to lesser memory chips used).
In my country this card is not worth it's price - about $100 (for less i get Gainward Bliss). But if i ever will have a chance to get it cheaper, maybe i will take the challenge, who knows
- my nick there is blacksheep).These cards have G70 7800 GTX chip on AGP (x2 keyed!) PCB, but with disabled pipes (16 only) and lowered clocks (i think it's due to lesser memory chips used).
In my country this card is not worth it's price - about $100 (for less i get Gainward Bliss). But if i ever will have a chance to get it cheaper, maybe i will take the challenge, who knows
the 512mb vram had me questioning it; haven't seen any reference to one of these with more than 256mb...
@bbowens: Don't buy any of these.
In contrary to its descrpition, it's not flashable (until somebody of ROM geniuses will write proper ROM - this could never happen
I don't think you are allowed to sell outside of the marketplace in these forums. It's against the rules here and could get you banned .
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I don't think you are allowed to sell outside of the marketplace in these forums. It's against the rules here and could get you banned
Oops, my bad. I haven't made any contacts or actions on my previous post, nor will I until I have a Marketplace forum thread.
*backs out slowly*
*runs*
