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PowerMac G5s - on or around Jan 20th?

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To all you pessimists...

Have you noticed that the pessimists are the ones who don't have the money to buy the new G5s whent hey come out, unlike some others. Don't let this start MacWorld War 3 tho.:D
 
Re: To all you pessimists...

Originally posted by invaLPsion
Have you noticed that the pessimists are the ones who don't have the money to buy the new G5s whent hey come out, unlike some others. Don't let this start MacWorld War 3 tho.:D
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Through seeing my iMac, my parents are ready to try the Mac once more (they and their business once used Fat Macs, SE, SE40, a couple more around this time, and a MacII, & I think a IIci ??... then Windows 95 onwards).

They want an iMac for now, to do video work with... and they want it now. I've persuaded them to wait 1 more week (though they'd waited for Jan 6 too).

So my Pessimistic outlook is that the new iMac G5 will be released in 2 weeks, based purely on my past experience with Murphy's Law.
 
I'd say, if you don't see an announcement by Monday... tell your parents to buy an iMac now. If the release of a new iMac isn't tied to the 20th anniversery.. who knows when it will get rev'ed.

I think Apple will move the whole desktop line over to the G5 soon.. but I have no idea what their time table will be.
 
I agree.

Originally posted by ffakr
I'd say, if you don't see an announcement by Monday... tell your parents to buy an iMac now. If the release of a new iMac isn't tied to the 20th anniversery.. who knows when it will get rev'ed.

I think Apple will move the whole desktop line over to the G5 soon.. but I have no idea what their time table will be.
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I have to agree with you. There is going to be a long wait for an iMac G5 if it doesn't happen soon. I'd love to think otherwise, but I just don't think it.
 
I see PM speed boosts and new LCD displays before the G5 iMac, so I'm thinking the new iMac won't be unveiled for a couple more months at least.
 
Originally posted by ~Shard~
I see PM speed boosts and new LCD displays before the G5 iMac, so I'm thinking the new iMac won't be unveiled for a couple more months at least.
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You know your probably right but the iMac and eMac lines are begging for a revamp given the poor sales performance. Maybe the 20th anniversary will see all the desktops updated... wishful thinking...
 
Originally posted by aswitcher
You know your probably right but the iMac and eMac lines are begging for a revamp given the poor sales performance. Maybe the 20th anniversary will see all the desktops updated... wishful thinking...
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Oh I completely agree - the lines are definitely due for updates, and I'd love to see them sooner rather than later, but just thinking realistically. I'd love to see a nice surprise around the 20th as well!
 
20th Anniversary Mac??

I was looking on www.crucial.com
and found something interesting..........
Click on where it says "Step One" to select memory for an Apple Comuter..........then click on "Step Two"
Where it says "Choose your Apple Product line" from the drop down menu - the First Item says "20th Anniversary Mac"
Whats this?? Does Crucial know something we dont?
Why list that as a Product Line??
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Anyone else ever see this??:confused: :confused:
 
RD RAM in new macs?

Following the crucial lead and chosing the 20th anniversary mac....
I get this message - followed by this help file....


http://www.crucial.com/store/listmo...le&productline=20TH+Anniversary+Mac&submit=Go

We're Sorry!
No products are currently available for the system you selected. Your system may require proprietary or non-standard parts. If your system requires RDRAM or Rambus technology

Rambus DRAM
Rambus memory (RDRAM®) is a revolutionary step from SDRAM. It's a memory design with changes to the bus structure and how signals are carried. Rambus memory sends less information on the data bus (which is 16 or 18 bits wide as opposed to the standard 64 or 72 bits) but it sends data more frequently. It also reads data on both the rising and falling edges of the clock signal, as DDR does. As a result, Rambus memory is able to achieve effective data transfer speeds of 800MHz and higher.

Another difference with Rambus memory is that all memory slots in the motherboard must be populated. Even if all the memory is contained in a single module, the "unused" sockets must be populated with a PCB, known as a continuity module, to complete the circuit.

Rambus DRAM modules are known as RIMM™ modules (Rambus inline memory modules). Rambus memory supports both ECC and non-ECC applications.

http://www.crucial.com/library/ddr_vs_rdram.asp

While the whole file implies RDRAM is little used...yet... maybe this is the next big leap by Super Stevie!

The delay sucks but rumors rock!
 
My Conversation with Crucial

I copy and pasted so please read this backwards thanks......

John>I see that you dont carry the memory - Question is - Where did CRUCIAL get that "Product Line" from??
Carmen>Unfortunately, we do not carry the memory that you require, please check back with the manufacturer of your system, or with the place of purchase.
John>See that product line listed? Called the 20th Anniversary MAC? Is this a new product Crucial antisipates to come out soon? What memory would it use? Why is that Product Lised on the drop down menu?
John>http://www.crucial.com/store/listmo...le&productline=20TH+Anniversary+Mac&submit=Go
Carmen>Can you forward me that link please.
John>Apple 20th Anniversary MAC
Carmen>What is the make and model of the system or the make and model of the motherboard you are wanting to upgrade?
John>Under the Memory Selection for an Apple Computer You List a Product Line "20th Anniversary MAC" What is this product? Is it New? Comming out soon? Or is that a Typo?
Carmen>Hello John. How can I help you?


After I said that she disconnected me!!!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
hahahahahah

Sounds like the old Cheech and Chong bit...

Is that you Pedro?

No it is not me...don't open the door?

What Pedro...

etc...etc...
 
Originally posted by iriejedi
hahahahahah

Sounds like the old Cheech and Chong bit...

Is that you Pedro?

No it is not me...don't open the door?

What Pedro...

etc...etc...
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If I remember correctly it was "Dave' - not pedro - though perhpas this was regional for you?

"Dave's not here, Man" - was the bit - went on for about 10 minutes- though at the time my time-sense may have been warped/affected
 
Ram is new... I think

Originally posted by aswitcher
Yeah but this RAM mentioned, is that new or old?
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.Full story...With link that was like Next Generation Memory....
http://www.crucial.com/library/ddr_vs_rdram.asp

FYI - Crucial's site is at this moment 'unavailable' - see it 20th anniversary Mac is listed later on today.....


The Crucial Technology Web site is currently unavailable!

To better serve the system-specific needs of our customers, we are performing scheduled maintenance to our Web site.
We expect to have the Web site available shortly. Thank-you for your patience.

I:confused:
 
Re: Ram is new... I think

Originally posted by iriejedi
.Full story...With link that was like Next Generation Memory....
http://www.crucial.com/library/ddr_vs_rdram.asp

FYI - Crucial's site is at this moment 'unavailable' - see it 20th anniversary Mac is listed later on today.....


The Crucial Technology Web site is currently unavailable!

To better serve the system-specific needs of our customers, we are performing scheduled maintenance to our Web site.
We expect to have the Web site available shortly. Thank-you for your patience.

I:confused:
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Sounds revolutionary and expensive... But great for gaming is attractive...
 
Crucial...

People this is no lead.... it's the 20th anniv. Mac released in 1997. The whole bit about Rambus (Introduced with the Pentium 4 and eventually faded out of the mainstream with the more cost effective DDR) is just saying IF your system requires rambus, not that the TAM does.

Apple 20th Anniversary Mac memory -

64mb edo, buffered, non-parity, 60ns, 5v, 8 x 64


http://discountram.biz/apple/20th Anniversary Mac.shtml
 
Re: Dualies

Originally posted by Downdivx
Going just slightly off topic,
I had a discussion with a friend of mine the other day and we agreed that multiple processors are probably the future of computers.
Its getting harder and harder to make faster and smaller CPUs. Smaller and faster raises heat concerns. You need special (and usually new) manufacturing facilities that are extremely expensive to create and can only be used for a short time before new processes require a new facility.
At the same time you're moving away from a perfectly good processor in which you have millions of dollars invested.
Add the rise of distributed processing into the mix.
It seems to me that it would be much cheaper to build multi-CPU computers than to keep building faster and smaller chips. New motherboards would be significantly cheaper to create and could use existing CPUs. A little bit of software trickery to spread the load across several processors and boom, you can exponentially increase the speed of computers without serious startup costs.
That's just my two cents, does anyone else agree?
W
PS: So I guess Apple's dual PM line is just another example of how its ahead of the curve.
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As a brief reminder to those with an Apple history ...

Daystar made a Quad processor Mac clone back in the day. So maybe something "better" than duals are on the horizon. :)

One can dream ... no ?!?!?!?
 
Re: Re: Dualies

Originally posted by Mr Maui
As a brief reminder to those with an Apple history ...

Daystar made a Quad processor Mac clone back in the day. So maybe something "better" than duals are on the horizon. :)

One can dream ... no ?!?!?!?
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I'd love to see that!

One question though - my understanding is that only VERY few programs actually use both processors to make them run faster - for games etc... aren't we really still talking about a single processor effort?

Also - Im not up to speed on OS X these days - but how does it handle memory allocation? Will I still have to set min and optimal memory for every program well in excess of mfg's specs... or does OS X adjust and take what is needed?
 
New Stuff

I was in atendance yesterday Fri. Jan 23rd at the Graphics of the Americas Convention in Miami Beach and Apple Computers was mysteriously missing.
Could it mean new computers and moniters??
They wouldn't bring out of date computers and moniters if they were going to update in the next few days or weeks would they?
 
Re: Re: Re: Dualies

Originally posted by iriejedi
I'd love to see that!

One question though - my understanding is that only VERY few programs actually use both processors to make them run faster - for games etc... aren't we really still talking about a single processor effort?
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No. Even if your app is single-threaded (does not distribute tasks well) like some older QT codecs, the rest of the OS including the gui will move to the other proc to keep the system responsive.

Also - Im not up to speed on OS X these days - but how does it handle memory allocation? Will I still have to set min and optimal memory for every program well in excess of mfg's specs... or does OS X adjust and take what is needed?
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The latter is correct.
 
Re: New Stuff

Originally posted by djbahdow01
I was in atendance yesterday Fri. Jan 23rd at the Graphics of the Americas Convention in Miami Beach and Apple Computers was mysteriously missing.
Could it mean new computers and moniters??
They wouldn't bring out of date computers and moniters if they were going to update in the next few days or weeks would they?
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Or maybe Apple decided not to attend the show after big MAcworld and NAMM expenditures
 
Yeah! inventories are down ...

As Arn posted on the new Happy 20th Birthday thread, G5 inventories are down.

I just checked a few sites that actually post inventory numbers and availability waits, and they all seem to be 7-10 days, up from 2-3 days just a week or two ago.

So maybe our G5's will be coming this next week after all. As always, we'll soon see.

Happy 20th, Mac!

Edit - Here's hoping the r.2's new motherboard continues to refine performance bottlenecks and give us more of the G5's power! Let's make those Apple engineers WORK for their stock options!
 
Refurb dual 2.0's are available on Apple Store for $2399. This is the first time I've seen them there. (These wouldn't be Va. Tech machines would they?)
 
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