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Originally posted by ryan
Apple store employees have no inside knowledge of future Apple products beyond what they read on the rumor sites. So your friend's, friend is getting their information from sites like this one and not some secret memo the employees get each week.

Yes that is very true, I have been told that over and over. Just prior to the Keynote on Tuesday at my local Apple Store, the store manager sat in front of me. Someone ask him a question, "I don't know anymore what to expect than you do."
 
Originally posted by neonart
Im going crazy waiting for new G5's.

Here's what I wonder... Will Apple do single or dual processors in the low end machine?

Hopefully, it will be a dual with either 2.2-2.8 Ghz? I wish Apple would get rid of the 1.6GHz G5 and make the dual 1.8 their low-end model.:)
 
Originally posted by neonart
Im going crazy waiting for new G5's.

Here's what I wonder... Will Apple do single or dual processors in the low end machine?

Yeah I've been wondering the same thing. I'm hoping that the dual 2.0 will become the low-end with simalar pricing to the current 1.6.

It would be really cool if they released something new on or around the 24th. But I think if they are going to release something for the aniversary it would be something more special. Maybe G5 iMacs. Or possibly, although I highly doubt it, G5 PowerBooks (hey, they got them in the Xserves :D)
 
true

my credit card is just waiting for Apple to update their G5s. hopefully, it'll be a dual, or at least single 2.2 in the low-end, cause it's the only one i can afford.

It's brutal because i bought for 1500$CAN worth of stuff, like a MiniDV camcorder, a screen and 5.1 speakers (boxing day), and it's all in the box, just waiting for the G5 !!!
 
Originally posted by JoeRadar
Actually, I am pretty surprised at how little Apple store reps know about anything. Whenever I ask our local Apple store reps a question, they are almost always wrong. Apple needs to step up their training.

I just bought Panther today and asked the guy in the store when iLife '04 would arrive here in Korea. He pointed to the old iLife and said it was over there. No, I said, the new one with GarageBand in it.

Deer in the headlights.

Finally, he said, "Oh, we don't have that yet." (In his defense, it's not even advertised on Apple Korea's site yet.)

Squire
 
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Originally posted by From Win to Mac
my credit card is just waiting for Apple to update their G5s. <snip>
Mine too! I plan to get the middle or high-end machine built to order. I'm hoping for 8x SuperDrives in all models (and dual processors in at least the middle- and high-end models, preferably in the low-end model as well). I haven't bought anything special to use with the G5 when it arrives.
 
Fortunately (or unfortunately), my 17" iMac suits all my desktop needs. I really need a new laptop, though. The smaller, the better, as far as I'm concerned. I hope that they throw the G5 in all three PowerBooks and not just the big two.

Squire
 
Well, I have ordered my dual 1.8 on the 8th of December and it's speculated to be here the end of January... So hopefully they have thrown in a couple of faster proc's! :D Six weeks for only the PM, this is very long! It was however BTO, Bluetooth, no modem, combodrive and Ati 9600. But whenever I assemble it in the Applestore it says delevery in 5-7 business days. So why does it takes more then 6 weeks?! Called the Applestore last week and they said that they where just starting production again...

Also, in the new speculated line up, the low end model is always a single proc! It will probably be the 2.0 @ 90nm. Maybe we even see an option for a second optical bay in the new release. The procs are producing less heat, so less cooling/smaller heatsinks required -> More space to put something else in! (eventhough the procs are on the other side of the G5 then the optical drive).

The iMacs will probably get the old procs @ 90nm. Single 1.6, 1.8, and 2.0.
 
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Originally posted by From Win to Mac It's brutal because i bought for 1500$CAN worth of stuff, like a MiniDV camcorder, a screen and 5.1 speakers (boxing day), and it's all in the box, just waiting for the G5!!!
You're not alone. I have a ProTools|HD3 Accel rig (megabucks:() with $1400 worth of rackmount Glyph firewire drives waiting for an announcement...
Originally posted by From DreadnoughtMaybe we even see an option for a second optical bay in the new release. The procs are producing less heat, so less cooling/smaller heatsinks required -> More space to put something else in!
Yeah, that's another reason I'm waiting-- Hoping they'll find room for more than one extra hard drive and maybe an extra PCI-X slot.
 
They've done duals across the board in the PowerMac line before - my guess is that will happen only when the iMacs are upgraded to a g5 or a different form factor G5 will become available.

I'm hoping on the 20th as well ;)

D
 
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
still like this concept.

Oh my god please let that horrible concept die. That is still the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

Man, lets hope for updates this month.
 
I'm sure this year will be just like last year, with many new exciting updates announced every Tuesday or so for the next couple of months. I'm thinking PM updates in a couple weeks, and then who kows what - LCDs? Can't wait to see what all comes out these next few weeks...
 
superbowl?

remember some time ago when someone said that chiat the apple ad agencia has started working in ad for the superbowl, now the original mac ad was featured in the superbowl, this year there will be the pepsi one with the itunes promotion, but will be a good reason to invest in the second ad for apple this year.
So maybe they will have something else to announce or just say "we told you 1984 wont be like 1984, 20 years of innovation from the original mac to the ipod"
 
Originally posted by agreenster
Oh my god please let that horrible concept die. That is still the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

Man, lets hope for updates this month.
how come you dont like it? a cool screen, wireless keyboard & mouse, a cool enclosure that can hold several harddrives and a cpu in the bottom with heatsink on top rather then sticking a cpu on its side. remember heat goes up. did you see the film of this thing? very cool and i would buy one today if they had it. plus its smaller then the 40 lb monster we have now. I hope we get more then just a ipod commercial( yawn)
 
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
how come you dont like it? a cool screen, wireless keyboard & mouse, a cool enclosure that can hold several harddrives and a cpu in the bottom with heatsink on top rather then sticking a cpu on its side. remember heat goes up. did you see the film of this thing? very cool and i would buy one today if they had it. plus its smaller then the 40 lb monster we have now. I hope we get more then just a ipod commercial( yawn)

the film was crap - sorry - and I'll wager agreenster would agree with me on that one. jerky camera movement, and the thing looks like a prop from an old star trek movie. It doesn't have the clean lines of the iMac or PM.

The screen is a great concept, though and a little better thought out.

D
 
well im surprised i really liked the styling but what turns one person on turns another off. I was turned off big time when the G5 was shown after seeing so many cool concepts of what it might look like. i will admit it looks better in person though a smaller unit would fit into my desk like my quicksilver.
 
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Originally posted by restiffbard
The original Mac was released on the 24th right? So, why not release a new Mac on the 24th of this year? If you're gonna have a birthday have it on the right date. OK, so the 24th is a Saturday, then the 26th.

I think the "year of the Mac" will run out like this:

in the next 3-4 months we'll see new consumer Mac updates or redesigns.

Sometime in the summer we'll be seeing the PowerMac edge up to the promised 3GHz.

Before the end of the year we'll see G5s in Powerbooks.

And before Christmas we'll see the iPod mini drop in price.

This seems terribly easy to believe and I know its very broadly stated but I think the best way to keep eyes on Apple for the 20th year is to not rest on one's laurels. If Apple keeps up a steady stream of new product announcements then everyone will be turning to Apple every other month or so.

You don't celebrate a big anniversary in one swift punch on one date. You drag it out and make the entire year a veritable party.

Couldn't agree more, except I think the iPod mini dropping in price is a long shot.

We can hope!
 
You know Apple is going to suck and make the bottom model a SP 2.0 GHz... they're going to be too cheap to make them duals across all three models.

Also, as before, be prepared to wait a hell of a long time for the top model... so you can settle for the middle model for awhile if you actually want it anytime soon... probably 2.4 top and 2.2 middle is my guess.

I also bet they won't upgrade the superdrive to 8X yet either... probably very minor upgrades overall.
 
If Apple has a lot of chips, whats to say they wont release 4 models at a time instead of 3, that way they can space pricing even more.
 
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
You know Apple is going to suck and make the bottom model a SP 2.0 GHz... they're going to be too cheap to make them duals across all three models.

Why does that mean Apple sucks? I agree with Dont Hurt Me, that's a jump in 400 MHz, far more of a speed boost than we ever saw out of Moto!

Why would this suck? The 2.0 GHz machine are screamingly fast, and as a low-end machine would be amazing!

And as for being "too cheap" to make them all duals, that makes no sense at all. These new processor speeds are going to be great as it is, without the need for duals across the board. This does not make Apple cheap - they're upgrading their products - do you want them to upgrade more? So what you're saying then is that you're never satisfied and want more, more more? Okay, I know what people like you are like, I've run into them many times before....

Originally posted by ZildjianKX

Also, as before, be prepared to wait a hell of a long time for the top model... so you can settle for the middle model for awhile if you actually want it anytime soon... probably 2.4 top and 2.2 middle is my guess.

What are you basing this on? The extraordinarily long shipping delays on the initial batch of G5s was due to a vareity of factors, in case you didn't know that, including Virginia Tech getting the first 1100, and also the simple fact that this was a brand new system, brand new chip, brand new everything! Since these are just speed bumps with relatively minor hardware updates compared to the initial required updates and redesign of the G5 system, I don't see why there would be long delays. Please back up your claim with some facts and a constrcutive argument and I will gladly listen.
 
New PowerMac Enclosure?

Because the 90nm chips radiate less heat, maybe the PowerMac enclosure will get an update at some point this year (probably later, rather than sooner, because it would be a huge development expense to change the design of the box). The current G5 towers are jam-packed with cooling fans. Perhaps cooler chips will bring a smaller form factor. After all, Apple did manage to cram the new 90nm chips into those skinny X-serves.
 
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
You know Apple is going to suck and make the bottom model a SP 2.0 GHz... they're going to be too cheap to make them duals across all three models.

Yeah, just to reiterate, this is silly.

If they do go with a single, it is not because they are cheap, it is because the consumers are cheap. No matter how you do the math, one processor costs less than two, and there are people out there who only want to buy one. If Apple can shave some $ off the price and pick up a larger segment, while upselling to folks who do want duals, they will.

Also, the bottow of the line one is supposed to be where Apple cuts corners. You want a "not cheap" one, I am sure Apple will have something for you.
 
Originally posted by Wombatronic
Yeah, just to reiterate, this is silly.

If they do go with a single, it is not because they are cheap, it is because the consumers are cheap. No matter how you do the math, one processor costs less than two, and there are people out there who only want to buy one. If Apple can shave some $ off the price and pick up a larger segment, while upselling to folks who do want duals, they will.

Also, the bottow of the line one is supposed to be where Apple cuts corners. You want a "not cheap" one, I am sure Apple will have something for you.

Exactly - well said. I'll never understand people who make comments like ZildjianKX's above. <shrugs shoulders>
 
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