PowerPC G4 Quicksilver Need OS

Perkla

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Hi

As the topic says i have a G4 Quicksilver made in 2001, i have original install CD´s that is version 10.4.8 its two CD´s but i cant install it on the computer. i dont know why, i trying to hold option button on boot and a screen shows up, but it cant find the CD that is in the tray, i have tried another optical drive as well with the same results. I dont know why i cant install this OS on this computer, i am in very much need of a OS that i can install and use... 10.4 is what i need.

Specs
Quicksilver 2001
800Mhz
1.25Gb ram
40Gb HDD + 160Gb HDD (for storage)
ATI 32Mb GPU
CD-RW Optical drive

Anyone have any suggestions for me ? Anyone have a version 10.4 ISO file that i can burn and boot and install with ? Or where can i find one ?

Thanks...

// Perkla
 
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DeltaMac

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10.4.8 would not be original to your G4, and would likely be for an intel Mac
PPC Macs, such as your G4 NEVER came with 10.4.8, and that system simply won't boot, nor install on your G4, completely useless for your G4.

As 10.4.8 DVDs will be grey in color (not black), they are for a specific model Mac, not your G4.

Agree with Dronecatcher. You can download a disk image for 10.4 from that site. Burn the image to a DVD, and you can then use that for the install.
Scroll further down that page, just above the comments. It has a few notes that are relevant if you want a DVD that you can use to install Tiger on your G4.
Your quicksilver G4 might even have a CD-RW burner. If so, you will need to either replace that optical drive with a DVD burner, or use an external burner to make the installer DVD.
 

Perkla

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10.4.8 would not be original to your G4, and would likely be for an intel Mac
PPC Macs, such as your G4 NEVER came with 10.4.8, and that system simply won't boot, nor install on your G4, completely useless for your G4.

As 10.4.8 DVDs will be grey in color (not black), they are for a specific model Mac, not your G4.

Agree with Dronecatcher. You can download a disk image for 10.4 from that site. Burn the image to a DVD, and you can then use that for the install.
Scroll further down that page, just above the comments. It has a few notes that are relevant if you want a DVD that you can use to install Tiger on your G4.
Your quicksilver G4 might even have a CD-RW burner. If so, you will need to either replace that optical drive with a DVD burner, or use an external burner to make the installer DVD.
So i can burn the 10.4 that i am downloading now on a DVD and boot with my Quicksilver with the standard optical drive ? or what do you mean i have to do.. ? i have no idea what optical drive is in it right now, and yes i have several newer macs with DVD burners in them that i can burn with.
[doublepost=1492033615][/doublepost]I also heard that dmg files are not bootable... ??
 

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"Bootable" comes when you burn the DVD, using the .dmg file as the source for the DVD.
You also need to make sure that you use a DVD -R, and not a DVD +R, as Apple drives probably won't boot if you burn to a DVD +R.

If the optical drive is original, it may be listed on the serial number label on the back panel of your Quicksilver.
Or, you can remove the drive from your Quicksilver, so you can look at the manufacturer's label on the drive. You can the search for the model number. That will tell you the drive specs (it may not be the original optical drive, but it will have a label on the top side of the drive).
 

Perkla

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"Bootable" comes when you burn the DVD, using the .dmg file as the source for the DVD.
You also need to make sure that you use a DVD -R, and not a DVD +R, as Apple drives probably won't boot if you burn to a DVD +R.

If the optical drive is original, it may be listed on the serial number label on the back panel of your Quicksilver.
Or, you can remove the drive from your Quicksilver, so you can look at the manufacturer's label on the drive. You can the search for the model number. That will tell you the drive specs (it may not be the original optical drive, but it will have a label on the top side of the drive).
Yeah i have DVD-R discs around.. and i have a DVD rom around i can install in it so that it can read DVD´s... would that do it ?
 

Perkla

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Anything other than the base model Quicksilver should have shipped with a Superdrive.
On the back of the computer it says that mine has a CD RW ... so i put in a DVD rom drive and now the 10.4.6 is installing.. i hope it will be flawlesss its at 10% only so there is alot of things that can go wrong still..
 
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Perkla

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Installation went smooth last night, and i did the 10.4.11 update from the Update centre so now i am running 10.4.11.
 
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Congrats ;p You can always try Leopard if you fancy that! Best way for me was to download a DMG to restore and then I restored it via the Tiger DVD. Using Dual Layer DVDs is a pain and stripping Leopard to a single layer DVD is a pain and a half.
 

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Congrats ;p You can always try Leopard if you fancy that! Best way for me was to download a DMG to restore and then I restored it via the Tiger DVD. Using Dual Layer DVDs is a pain and stripping Leopard to a single layer DVD is a pain and a half.
Leopard is very slow if you have stock GPU in Quicksilver, you need some graphic card with Core Image. Also it is good to have at least 1 GB RAM. You can also make dual boot with Mac OS 9. For OS 9 are lots of great games and productivity software
 

Perkla

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i think that 10.4.11 is the newest OS i can run on my Quicksilver.. down below are the specs of it

800Mhz
1.25Gb ram
40Gb HDD + 160Gb HDD (for storage)
ATI 32Mb GPU
CD-RW Optical drive

Only thing that i noticed is that the webpages does not show properly, i think some plugin is missing or something like that, i am using safari and i am not sure what version i can run on the 10.4.11... i have to look it up.
 

TheMrKocour

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i think that 10.4.11 is the newest OS i can run on my Quicksilver.. down below are the specs of it

800Mhz
1.25Gb ram
40Gb HDD + 160Gb HDD (for storage)
ATI 32Mb GPU
CD-RW Optical drive

Only thing that i noticed is that the webpages does not show properly, i think some plugin is missing or something like that, i am using safari and i am not sure what version i can run on the 10.4.11... i have to look it up.
Safari is outdated, it will be better to get TenFourFox with tweaks or Webkit web browser.
 

KawaiiAurora

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i think that 10.4.11 is the newest OS i can run on my Quicksilver.. down below are the specs of it

800Mhz
1.25Gb ram
40Gb HDD + 160Gb HDD (for storage)
ATI 32Mb GPU
CD-RW Optical drive

Only thing that i noticed is that the webpages does not show properly, i think some plugin is missing or something like that, i am using safari and i am not sure what version i can run on the 10.4.11... i have to look it up.
I'd recommend TenFourKit or OmniWeb. Leopard runs ok on my PowerBook G4 without CI support so eeh. Disable spotlight and beamsync and you're ready to go. Leopard Webkit makes Leopard worthit
 

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i think that 10.4.11 is the newest OS i can run on my Quicksilver.. down below are the specs of it

800Mhz
1.25Gb ram
40Gb HDD + 160Gb HDD (for storage)
ATI 32Mb GPU
CD-RW Optical drive

Only thing that i noticed is that the webpages does not show properly, i think some plugin is missing or something like that, i am using safari and i am not sure what version i can run on the 10.4.11... i have to look it up.
Bottomline is, your Mac can largely still do what it was designed to do when new - listen to/produce music, edit/watch DV/SD video, graphic design, photo manipulation etc however, going online will require some homework.
Browsers have to be optimised, Flash hacked, adverts blocked, javascript blocked - luckily all the info is in this forum :)

You can put Leopard on your Mac with some hackery and it will give you more scope for software but it will not be as fast as Tiger - all depends on what you do with it.
 

Perkla

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I am no Hacker so i will not try to do anything that i cant really understand, some apps would be cool to have though.. and maybe a decent web browser as well. I rather have a fast computer than a slow computer. i have several newer Mac´s so i am not really in need to do anything that need hacking to get it to work on this Quicksilver.

How ever.. its always good with information.. as i said some type of appstore would be cool.. apps to install and use just as is.. :D
 

Perkla

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Also.. i cant get the CD tray open.. hmm, i dont know why that is, the eject button on my keyboard does not work, i am using an early iMac keyboard from 2006, everything else work on the keyboard but not open the CD tray.. any suggestions what i could to... i can open the lid and take something tiny to try to reach the button the CD it self, but thats not so cool... its much cooler to just press the eject button.
 

Dronecatcher

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Also.. i cant get the CD tray open.. hmm, i dont know why that is, the eject button on my keyboard does not work, i am using an early iMac keyboard from 2006, everything else work on the keyboard but not open the CD tray.. any suggestions what i could to... i can open the lid and take something tiny to try to reach the button the CD it self, but thats not so cool... its much cooler to just press the eject button.
Tiger version is towards the bottom:

https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33099/disceject
 

Perkla

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I'd recommend TenFourKit or OmniWeb. Leopard runs ok on my PowerBook G4 without CI support so eeh. Disable spotlight and beamsync and you're ready to go. Leopard Webkit makes Leopard worthit
I went to lowendmac.com but i cant really se an obvious link for downloading this browser.. it seem like i have tweak it and do things to get it to work ? i am not in to hacking at all so i need something that is just plug and play...
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Bottomline is, your Mac can largely still do what it was designed to do when new - listen to/produce music, edit/watch DV/SD video, graphic design, photo manipulation etc however, going online will require some homework.
Browsers have to be optimised, Flash hacked, adverts blocked, javascript blocked - luckily all the info is in this forum :)

You can put Leopard on your Mac with some hackery and it will give you more scope for software but it will not be as fast as Tiger - all depends on what you do with it.
That means flashing the bios and make it a newer model than it is ? I did that with an early intel mac mini some years ago so that i could put in more memory, also i changed the CPU from a single core 1.8Ghz to a core 2 duo 2.16Ghz.. wow what a difference it made..