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What will the haters say when Apple announces 2010 Q3 results are best ever? Or the fact that iPhone 4 & iPad are still flying off the shelves? Remember - I haven't even bought an iDevice yet. If Apple can ever figure out how to sell ME on the iDevices they will completely dominate the industry.
 
SJ has just been named #1 CEO in America by Fortune magazine. Ives #1 designer. Together they're the best team in tech. :apple:
 
Here's the thing that will force a recall: the Federal Trade Commission investigating whether Apple deliberately sold a defective product and tried to hide this fact. If they find out this is true the FTC could force Apple to recall the iPhone 4 until Apple does a hardware fix for the problem, which could cost Apple billions of dollars in revenue as Apple is forced to redesign the iPhone 4 to fix this problem and from a potential major drop in the share price of Apple as investors lose confidence in the company.
 
Here's the thing that will force a recall: the Federal Trade Commission investigating whether Apple deliberately sold a defective product and tried to hide this fact. If they find out this is true the FTC could force Apple to recall the iPhone 4 until Apple does a hardware fix for the problem, which could cost Apple billions of dollars in revenue as Apple is forced to redesign the iPhone 4 to fix this problem and from a potential major drop in the share price of Apple as investors lose confidence in the company.

IF the FTC would make that ruling then yeah the AAPL stock would take a huge hit. No doubt about it. But it's not gonna happen. I bet most FTC administrators are iPhone users. :p
 
What will the haters say when Apple announces 2010 Q3 results are best ever?
The superiority by commercial success argument, really? The Apple community has categorically dismissed that argument for about 25 years now, with counter-arguments along the lines of "so 1 billion flies can't be wrong, eh?"
 
The superiority by commercial success argument, really? The Apple community has categorically dismissed that argument for about 25 years now, with counter-arguments along the lines of "so 1 billion flies can't be wrong, eh?"

The difference is AAPL generates these profits by offering genius, quality products to the consumer and MSFT did it by illegal monopolist behavior. Windows has always been a crap OS, I'll admit that being a life-long user. Heck, back in 1995 what ELSE was there to buy except a Windows PC?
 
If you believe a recall is inevitable, time to short the Apple stock. I mean, what do you think the cost of recalling potentially 2 million phones would be? Oh, and by the way, how about a class action lawsuit related to AT&T exclusivity? Not that that's a guaranteed win for the class, but the specter of losing such an action can't help the profit prospects for Apple.

Change: Down 5.49 (2.13%)

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I think a huge part of the problem is that the iphone does not switch from 3G to edge fast enough when the signal drops.

I have been testing this out by manually turning 3G on and off and comparing signal strength and call quality. On edge at my house, I get significantly stronger signals and have yet to drop a call. On 3G at my house I get 1-2 bars, and it never switches to edge, even when the signal drops to zero bars. The calls have dropped 6 or 7 times, and not once did it switch to the edge network.

On my old iPhone 3G, the signal would routinely switch to edge whenever the signal dropped down to about 1 bar.

AT&T says the 3G network is everywhere edge is in my neighborhood, but the fact remains that the edge only setting gets better reception & fewer dropped calls. Perhaps that's because the edge network is less congested.

I suggest Apple looks into a firmware update that switches voice calls to edge faster when the signal degrades.

This sounds like what I had happen today. Holding the phone with the corner covered, I eventually lost my3G signal. After several seconds, it switched over to edge and the signal went back up.
 
Buy Apple stock

My recommendation....buy Apple Stock now. The stock is down on this "recall" issue and believe me.....it is a "buy". Apple always recovers and this will be no exception.

Even if Apple has to recall 2-3 million iphone 4g's it should only cost about $100 million. That is totally manageable for Apple and pales in comparison when the projection is for sales of 7.5 million iphones in the June quarter and 40 million in 2010. The stock is valued at only 18.6 percent of 2010 value and projected to be 15+ percent in 2011.

By the way, I have owned every iphone since the first generation and I cupped my hands over the edges of my 3gs and after 7 seconds or so guess what? The signal strength went down.
 
So the £600 question. Do I keep my order or cancel and see what Apple decide is the correct course of action before taking delivery ?

I had a play with a friends and could see the signal drop but it did not disappear completely.
 
AHH WHAT, GLASS IS BREAKABLE!?!? Say it ain't so! :eek:
That's probably what people would instinctively assume, and act it accordingly, but this bit of marketing blurb might have thrown them off...

"aluminosilicate glass — the same type of glass used in the windshields of helicopters and high-speed trains. Chemically strengthened to be 20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic, the glass is ultradurable and more scratch resistant than ever"

And then they showed a video where they bend the hell out of the glass without any breakage.

Maybe it's part of the business strategy:

1) Convince people that the glass is virtually unbreakable, maximizing the potential of people not treating the glass with care. Shards galore!

2) Sell millions of replacement phones to insurance claimants.
 
We live in an Age where a great company can be destroyed overnight by sensationalists and also mainstream news organizations.

Ironically Steve Jobs and his arrogance may be the downfall for the company he started. This may just be Job's 2nd multi-billion dollar mistake.

What was Job's first multi-billion dollar mistake?
 
No problems

I love to read what others write in these forums. I sometimes feel that things may get blown way out of proportion. I received my new iPhone yesterday and I love it. No matter how I hold the damn thing, the bars stay the same. I think we may only be hearing from people having problems and I wonder if that is just a minority of iPhone owners.
 
By the way, I have owned every iphone since the first generation and I cupped my hands over the edges of my 3gs and after 7 seconds or so guess what? The signal strength went down.

If all the iPhones had the "death grip" issue - then why the hysteria now? Reeks of conspiracy to me. :apple:
 
Just got off the phone with my 82-year-old mother. The first thing she asked when she picked up the phone? "Are you calling from your new iPhone?" I said of course - I long ago got rid of my land line - and she said, "I was afraid you might be having problems. I heard today that they die when you try to make phone calls."

This is a woman in the middle of Iowa who stays atop current events by perusing Readers Digest. Apple has reason to worry if she's picked up the meme.
 
90% of MR posts bitching about the iPhone 4 are non-owners.;) Personally I'm not buying any smartphone, so my opinion can be totally objective.

Yet 100% of fanboys here can trash a Droid -- whatever the make or model -- phone w/out even owning one and spout off like a tech. gadget expert. Isn't that rich? ;)

Everyone breathe and have a laugh:

The Daily Goat
Apple Apologizes: Announces It Is “Stunned” to Learn that iPhone Does Suck
http://www.dailygoat.com/2010/07/apple-announces-stunned-iphone-suck/ :D
 
Add me to the list with a definite problem, really hope this recall happens. I have too much money invested in apps and whatnot to switch brands, but I hate knowing I have a product I paid a lot of money for with a known defect.
 
What was Job's first multi-billion dollar mistake?

MacBook Air. haha A "hobby" (Apple spin for failure). Oh, wait. He hasn't fired the starter pistol of the MBA hobby era yet. I guess Apple TV then.

Still not seeing any of those revolutionary MBA-in-a-manila-envelope ads the past few years. ;)
 
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