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OK, so I'm an AT&T customer and I'm eligible for an upgrade, but I'd rather just buy the phone off contract and pay it all at once instead of going through NEXT or having them tack a fee onto my monthly bill with a regular 2-year contract upgrade pricing.

I should be able to pre-order an unlocked iPhone 6 at full price from AT&T's website on Friday morning, right?

That I don't know. My guess is that the Apple website will probably force you to get an upgrade, but the AT&T website might give you both options (the Verizon website does).

However, I don't see any reason not to get an upgrade if it is available. The NEXT discount is $10 per month, and the upgrade is $450 spread over 24 months or almost $20 per month.
 
That I don't know. My guess is that the Apple website will probably force you to get an upgrade, but the AT&T website might give you both options (the Verizon website does).

However, I don't see any reason not to get an upgrade if it is available. The NEXT discount is $10 per month, and the upgrade is $450 spread over 24 months or almost $20 per month.

Well, I'd prefer to have my device unlocked, and I have the money to pay for it (sold my iPhone 5 already and am using credit card rewards for the balance).
 
How come? If I trade in my 5s, I pay the $200 upgrade fee, but get a $200 gift card which essentially makes it a straight swap of the 5s for the 6 (with a new 2 year contract, which I'm fine with signing).

Otherwise, I sell my 5s for someone around $350-$400, buy the 6 outright, and end up paying about $300-$400 out of pocket.

Not sure why trading it in is such a bad deal?

I believe most people are forgetting about the Early Termination Fee (ETF) to break your current 2 yr agreement in order to start a new 2 yr agreement.
This is usually around $320 minus $10per month that you have been on the agreement.

ATT http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/articles-resources/early-term-fees.jsp

VERIZON http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/support/customer-agreement

SPRINT http://shop2.sprint.com/en/services/termination_fee/early_termination_fee.shtml

and usually you can not unlock your phone unless you
a) buy it outright
b) finish out your 2 yr agreement
c) pay your etf
 
I feel like I'm more confused than i should be. This is my first time purchasing a phone at full price. Hopefully AT&T and/or Apples gives that option during the time of the pre-order.
 
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm up for renewal at ATT on Nov. 2 but want to upgrade now. I'm happy paying full price for an unlocked iPhone - I travel a bit and I want the option to be off of ATT when I travel. The FAQ section from the Apple's Store Webpage says:
When I buy from the Apple Online Store, does my iPhone come ready to use?

Yes, if you have selected an iPhone for use on AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon. When your iPhone arrives, all you have to do is turn it on and follow the onscreen instructions to set it up. If you have selected an iPhone for T-Mobile, it will come with the appropriate nano-SIM, but you will need to contact T-Mobile or visit an Apple Retail Store to activate your iPhone. If you have selected an unlocked GSM phone, you can insert your own nano-SIM card or obtain one from the supported GSM carrier of your choice and activate it in order to use your iPhone.

When I read that, I assume I can get the no-contract (T-Mobile) phone. When it arrives I yank out that nano SIM and put in the nano SIM from my current iPhone5. It shouldn't affect the 2 months I have remaining on my contract with ATT since I'm not (currently) making any contract changes. Thoughts?
 
Model A1549 (GSM)*
Model A1522 (GSM)*
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)

Model A1549 (CDMA)*
Model A1522 (CDMA)*
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)

Model A1586*
Model A1524*
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
TD-SCDMA 1900 (F), 2000 (A)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40, 41)
All models
802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi‑Fi
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology
NFC

First 2 are ATT/Tmobile (Same Phones)
Second 2 are VZ/Sprint (Same Phones)
Last 2 are Chinese bands

An ATT or Tmobile one bought "device only" will work on either carrier and with overseas GSM carriers.
A VZ one bought "device only" will work on VZ, ATT or Tmobile and overseas with GSM carriers.
Who knows if the Sprint ones will be locked or not this time.....

It appears only the Tmobile/Unlocked one will be able to be ordered online, but you should be able to walk into the Apple Store on Day one and buy Tmobile, ATT, or VZ "device only." Who knows about Sprint....

If you have Tmobile or ATT, you can preorder the Tmobile one no problem.
If you have VZ, it looks like you can only preorder with a service plan, but maybe it will be different when the store launches on Friday.

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I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm up for renewal at ATT on Nov. 2 but want to upgrade now. I'm happy paying full price for an unlocked iPhone - I travel a bit and I want the option to be off of ATT when I travel. The FAQ section from the Apple's Store Webpage says:


When I read that, I assume I can get the no-contract (T-Mobile) phone. When it arrives I yank out that nano SIM and put in the nano SIM from my current iPhone5. It shouldn't affect the 2 months I have remaining on my contract with ATT since I'm not (currently) making any contract changes. Thoughts?

Yes, you are correct. Once you fulfill your contract you can request your current phone be unlocked. Or you could sell it as a locked ATT phone.
 
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Apple chat said you cannot get it unlock even if you paid full price for it - you have to go through T-Mobile to get it unlocked. LOL!
 
T-Mobile and AT&T are both GSM, so unlocked T-Mobile will work with AT&T SIM. I just checked and when I bought my 5S, I bought it unlocked as T-Mobile from Apple. I've been using AT&T with it since.
 
I'm on an AT&T Mobile Share Value Plan. I currently pay $130 a month (before 17% state employees discount for my wife) for unlimited text/calls and 10GB of data for two off-contract iPhones.

I did an online chat with the AT&T rep, and she said that if I do the upgrade pricing with a new two-year contract (I qualify for the full discount on upgrade pricing), that I would still have to pay a $40 device fee instead of the $15 fee that is currently including in my $130 price. So my monthly bill would jump to $155 a month if I only upgraded my phone - I'd be paying an extra $600 over two years.

Add $600 to the $400 cost of a 64GB iPhone 6 Plus on contact = $1000 versus getting the same phone for $849 off-contract. Screw that!

I'd rather pay the $849 up front for a no-contract T-Mobile phone and have a free and clear device. I can pop in my AT&T SIM and be on my way.
 
Well look at years past. Did Verizon let you pay full price / outright this time last year on pre-orders?
Yes! Ordered my 5S that way and paid full price.

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Hi all,

Rarely ask questions here but can't find a definitive answer.

I am on Verizon, and have the 5s so I don't have an available upgrade. Can I pre-order the iPhone 6 on Friday at full price, off contract, for Verizon?

Thanks!

Yes. I did that last year with my 5S.
 
iPhone 6
64gb AT&T
Space Grey


To me, 4.7 is just perfect. I need a iPhone that will fit in my pocket. The 5.5 inch is great but the only benefit I see is 1080p video.
 
Hi all,



Rarely ask questions here but can't find a definitive answer.



I am on Verizon, and have the 5s so I don't have an available upgrade. Can I pre-order the iPhone 6 on Friday at full price, off contract, for Verizon?



Thanks!


Yes, I've done that before. Maybe this year will be different, but doubt it. Their site is a mess though so be prepared for lots of headaches, freezes, and having to do things multiple times to get it done and iPhone ordered.
 
do you have to be a Tmobile customer to buy the full iphone 6 price at apple store or pre-order?

That is what I did last year. I pre-ordered the T-Mobile 5s at full price and have used it without problems on various US pre-paid plans ever since.
 
I have Verizon with the Unlimited Data plan. I planned to buy the iPhone Plus at full price to keep my Unlimited Data. Hoping I can pre-order it using Verizon's website.

A few others said it worked on previous pre-orders so I'm hopeful. :)

I wouldn't want to be in the store around the pre-order date. I'm assuming it'd be flooded with people.
 
Model A1549 (GSM)*
Model A1522 (GSM)*
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)

Model A1549 (CDMA)*
Model A1522 (CDMA)*
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)

Model A1586*
Model A1524*
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
TD-SCDMA 1900 (F), 2000 (A)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40, 41)
All models
802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi‑Fi
Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology
NFC

First 2 are ATT/Tmobile (Same Phones)
Second 2 are VZ/Sprint (Same Phones)
Last 2 are Chinese bands

An ATT or Tmobile one bought "device only" will work on either carrier and with overseas GSM carriers.
A VZ one bought "device only" will work on VZ, ATT or Tmobile and overseas with GSM carriers.
Who knows if the Sprint ones will be locked or not this time.....

It appears only the Tmobile/Unlocked one will be able to be ordered online, but you should be able to walk into the Apple Store on Day one and buy Tmobile, ATT, or VZ "device only." Who knows about Sprint....

If you have Tmobile or ATT, you can preorder the Tmobile one no problem.
If you have VZ, it looks like you can only preorder with a service plan, but maybe it will be different when the store launches on Friday.

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Yes, you are correct. Once you fulfill your contract you can request your current phone be unlocked. Or you could sell it as a locked ATT phone.


Sorry I'm still confused more then ever bc I'm getting conflicting answers both from att and apple here's my situation:
So I got the 5s last year on launch so I'm eligible for the 200.00 off on the 21st but I would like to just pay full price for the phone with out extending my contract this way next year my contract will be over and can get the phone for the normal 199 price so when I go to apple app it says 749.99 and under that In bold it says no contract extension required (I want the 64gig iphone6) all well and good but when I do the same thing to configure the 5s just to see what it says when I try to place it in the cart it first shows me the same full no contract extension price then on the next page where it shows you your updated rate plan and info it shows it's automatically configured with a 2 year contract extension even though it's for the full price of the phone.

I want to make sure there's no surprises come 12am on the 12th and when I call apple no one can seem to tell me if I'm really adding two years to my contract or not even though I'm paying full price. When I call att they tell me that if I order on their website there should be an option to buy the phone for a non commitment price but there still not sure. Now reading on here people are saying I can just buy the tmobile/ unlocked version of the phone and just use my sim from my 5s and that should work then I'm reading that it only worked for some people when they did that last year with there 5s.

Can someone please help me out and tell me how is the best way to pre order the phone with out extending my att contract? Ideally I would like to just order through the apple app bc that's what I've had the most luck with in the past

Thanks
Andrew
 
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/smartphone/iphone

Someone in another thread pointed out this deal, and, if I'm understanding it correctly, would be perfect for me.

As I mentioned, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until Jan of 2016. This deal, though, seems to be saying that I can trade in my current 5s, sign a new 2 year contract (early), and get a $200 gift card so essentially I'm upgrading my 5s as if I had an upgrade, and get a giftcard, so my update is free.

Now, I know, I could just sell my 5s and then buy the 6 outright, but honestly this would be easier (and easier to justify to my wife!! :) )

Am I reading this right?

I think you're missing the key fine print, "with new 2 Year Agreement". That's code for either a new line, or an upgrade on a line out-of-contract.

Call VZW to confirm - I don't recall VZW ever allowing early upgrades at the iPhone launch. If they did here, that'd be a first - and like your comments above state,with the effective "just swap a 5S for 6", it'd actually be a great deal... which would be another first for Verizon.
 
In order to buy at full price via apple store, you must not be eligible for an upgrade. If you are, then go to the store or preorder via verizon website.

Those who do not have an upgrade for whatever reason (under 2 year contract or current edge contract) can purchase at full price.

On the day of Pre-Order, select the phone/options. Then it will ask for account details. Once entered it will tell you that you do not qualify for upgrade and you will see the full amount listed...

Then proceed with purchase as normal...

thanks!
but will I extend my contract to another 2 year?
 
Only unlocked non Verizon makes sense for me as I need to use it in China and Korea as well as US.
 
Sorry I'm still confused more then ever bc I'm getting conflicting answers both from att and apple here's my situation:
So I got the 5s last year on launch so I'm eligible for the 200.00 off on the 21st but I would like to just pay full price for the phone with out extending my contract this way next year my contract will be over and can get the phone for the normal 199 price so when I go to apple app it says 749.99 and under that In bold it says no contract extension required (I want the 64gig iphone6) all well and good but when I do the same thing to configure the 5s just to see what it says when I try to place it in the cart it first shows me the same full no contract extension price then on the next page where it shows you your updated rate plan and info it shows it's automatically configured with a 2 year contract extension even though it's for the full price of the phone.

I want to make sure there's no surprises come 12am on the 12th and when I call apple no one can seem to tell me if I'm really adding two years to my contract or not even though I'm paying full price. When I call att they tell me that if I order on their website there should be an option to buy the phone for a non commitment price but there still not sure. Now reading on here people are saying I can just buy the tmobile/ unlocked version of the phone and just use my sim from my 5s and that should work then I'm reading that it only worked for some people when they did that last year with there 5s.

Can someone please help me out and tell me how is the best way to pre order the phone with out extending my att contract? Ideally I would like to just order through the apple app bc that's what I've had the most luck with in the past

Thanks
Andrew

Either order the contract free T-mobile one on Friday the 12th or walk into the Apple Store on Friday the 19th or any time afterwards and ask for an ATT, T-mobile, or Verizon one but specify "Device Only". Don't go anywhere near an ATT store or give anyone your ATT account info. Just go home and put your ATT SIM from your current phone in your new phone and turn it on. Then restore your new phone from your backup of your old phone. Just switching the SIM will move the service to your new phone and doing the restore will move all of your apps, music, settings, etc. don't tell ATT anything.....they don't need to know and that way they can't inadvertently trick you into a new contract. :)

Saying Device Only and paying full retail is the trick to getting an unlocked phone from Apple. (All VZ phones are unlocked anyway).
 
When the iPhone 5s came out I was using a recently purchased BlackBerry. I bought the 5s in an Apple Store and paid full retail. Verizon didn't know how to handle this and the activation process was a nightmare. I was at the store for 3 solid hours, and it would have been even longer if the carriers didn't have reps stationed at the Apple Store. There was a glitch in Verizon's system that choked on a new phone not effecting my current contract but nobody knew about the glitch. I had the honor of being the first person there to raise this scenario. First thought was I got a dud iPhone. They tried another one and the same thing happened. So we tried new SIM cards. This Verizon specialist took to my problem like a pit bull with a chew toy and wouldn't rest until I was sorted. Laptop with the Verizon account info, one phone texting reps at other locations, and a second phone speaking with tech support at VZ. The 5th Ave. store in NYC had encountered this glitch just a little before me so there was someone familiar with the problem. Between the two reps in different states, in constant communication with each other and with Verizon tech support, they hammered out a work-around that got me activated.

My point is that any deviation from the normal process could cause issues. Be forewarned.
 
Why would anyone buy a phone for full price at any place other than Verizon ? That makes no sense at all !!!

Because all the AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon models are the same especially if you have no interest in ever using Verizon/CDMA.
 
I currently am in a 2 year contract that is set to expire in June 2015 with vzw. Over the last 2 day I spoke to 2 different vzw rep that both told me I am eligible for a early upgrade to vzw edge and that I would be able to preorder on Friday
 
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